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February 17th, 2006 09:40 PM #21alternative fuel technology has been there for years; for one reason or another, nobody really pushed for it.
but, as posters have previously mentioned: necessity is the mother of invention. malay mo, baka magkaroon tayo ng utut powered car :D
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February 17th, 2006 11:17 PM #22
its easier to change individual lifestyle...
u can drive a hybrid car, or u can ride a bicycle or walk...
but whats hard to change is the way the world does business.
the world's economic activity is totally dependent on fossil fuel powered transport. and there are no alternatives.
there is no alternative to diesel powered ships that carry 40 ft. container vans across the ocean... there is no alternative to jet fuel powered cargo aircraft... there is no alternative to diesel powered delivery vans and trucks.
World economic activity will grind to a halt without oil.
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February 18th, 2006 12:10 PM #23
Air travel will go kaput, for sure... modern jet liners cost too much to run already, making the airline business very unstable.
Shipping? Ever hear of sails? There are large scale wind generators for ships, but retrofitting would take a long time. Shipping could go on, but in a more limited capacity, with smaller vessels.
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
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February 18th, 2006 12:53 PM #24
ya ive heard of sails. someone should have told them to use sails:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containerization
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February 20th, 2006 10:08 AM #25
...if you will use the question "are we really running out of oil" and google it up...you'll see all the different views,get different answers...i guess it's just a matter of which side you want to believe...
some of 'em say we can never tell...people have claimed the same as early as 1855 and on some other eras but still, here we are, still savoring much of that black gold. Others would also say that there really is a lot of oil reserves all around the globe and can easily be detected through satellite basing from the amount of heat being released (?) and that that there is sufficient oil to last us for the next 500 years. and yeah, there's that oil shales/sands in the u.s. and the future of it is simply gleaming.
i've also read the article attached on this thread and hell it would really make anyone thinks that this is the end...i say it is a little exaggerated...but hey, it got me thinking too!
so which side do i wanna believe in...the positive side of course...if ever oil is really running out, i think there is still enough time to develop more efficient ways of extracting, discovering other sources and alternatives.
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February 20th, 2006 10:12 AM #26
I think this is the last 100 years for fossil fuel technology. I'm sure we will be hydrogen-based by the turn of the century.
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February 20th, 2006 10:21 AM #27whether it's running out or not, why not start making alternative fuels a viable option? it's really not fun to hand your b*lls over to opec countries because of oil. and we there would be no need to start wars over it too. Ngayon pa lang nga na me artificial shortage, nagkakagulo na; what more if we really run out of oil?
sabi nga sa shell commercial: Better to anticipate change, than be forced to accept it
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February 20th, 2006 10:37 AM #28
the article attached mentioned that biodiesels and all other so called "alternative" fuels are not really alternative but "derivatives" of fossil fuel since they still need the latter to run machineries that produce the previous.
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February 20th, 2006 11:27 AM #29Originally Posted by uls
jet fuel (ester) - COCO METHYL ESTER... BIODIESEL
diesel powered delivery vans and trucks - BIODIESEL
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February 20th, 2006 11:48 AM #30
i think that whatever scenario comes true, it's a good idea to start changing now. it took the internal combustion engine about 50-70 years to become mainstream, so we'll take a long time to ramp up.
hopefully whatever emerges as the dominant technology allows countries to be self-sufficient, or at least eliminates the world's dependence on such unstable and easily-compromised areas of the world like the middle east and eastern europe.
Originally Posted by RafRaf
Did some independent research and decided to go with the white pearl crystal.... para maiba naman. ...
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