how would you react?

**VtEC** · October 3rd, 2007 03:33 AM

since malapit na bigayan ng mga bonus,
para sa mga employed who usually get their bonuses;
though this is a company prerogative.

How would you react if one day your boss appeared to you and said,
for the year (2007 and 2008) there will be no;

a) BONUS
b) Company outing
c) salary increase

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**veilde_slick** · October 3rd, 2007 03:38 AM

Huwaat..? *&%$#*... kablag... faints....

**chua_riwap** · October 3rd, 2007 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by VtEC

since malapit na bigayan ng mga bonus,
para sa mga employed who usually get their bonuses;
though this is a company prerogative.

How would you react if one day your boss appeared to you and said,
for the year (2007 and 2008) there will be no;

a) BONUS
b) Company outing
c) salary increase

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I would say.........

"Sir nagbibiro ka ba? Tawagan ko si Ma'm, ikukuwento ko yung nakita ko noon nu'ng kasama mo yung ***y-tary mo."

Hindi...siguro tanungin ko na lang siya kung bakit wala yung A,B & C. Tanungin ko rin siguro kung bankrupt na o palugi na opis namin.

Tapos sabay tanong "Sir....yung X-Mas party wala rin ba? Kahit sa Jolibee na lang."

**blue1108** · October 3rd, 2007 04:00 AM

ang gagawin ko, tatalikod tpos iiyak. nyahahaha...
malamang magsalita ako ng sangkatutak na sweet nothings bago sumugod...naku sana lng may katabi akong makakapigil sa'kin...

**jaspi11** · October 3rd, 2007 04:30 AM

dehins pwede yan hindi yan ang napagkasunduan sa CBA namin:jawdrop:

**Galant_VR_94** · October 3rd, 2007 05:14 AM

Id probably file my resignation papers!

I'll also ask kung bakit wala, if valid ang reason, then id let it be. Pero kung walang kuwenta ang dahilan.....RESIGN!

**empy** · October 3rd, 2007 06:12 AM

been there, done that. happened to me in 2002.

the financial markets were down and the company was in serious belt-tightening mode. to make a long story short, i asked myself whether this was a company i believed in, and whether i trusted them to also take care of/make it up to me in the good times as well.

the answer to both answers was yes, so i sucked it up and moved on. they did take care of me with some nice option packages the next year, so i'm happy

**mommyblue** · October 3rd, 2007 06:22 AM

WTF! pwedeng segment yan sa mga hidden camera show.. after magsalita ni bossing sabay close-up ng camera sa mga employees na ganito ang mga hitsura.. :shocked: :blue: :cry2: :furious: ..

tapos sabay sabi , :screwloose: na yata si bossing?

**Galactus** · October 3rd, 2007 06:30 AM

How would you react if one day your boss appeared to you and said,
for the year (2007 and 2008) there will be no;

a) BONUS
b) Company outing
c) salary increase

Re: a) Bonus, I would assume that it's the 13th month pay. Mandated by law ang 13th
month, so no choice talaga ang employer kundi ibigay ito sa empleyado. Otherwise, pwede siyang kasuhan.

Pero regarding b) outing , OK lang sa akin na wala. Actually, I value my weekends kasi its rest day for me. Eh di ba normally Saturday and Sunday ang outing, tapos usually out-of-town pa? Tapos, papasok ka pa ng Monday, kaya tagtag sobra ang feeling.

Sa c) salary increase, pag hindi binigay, yan ang medyo disappointing. Pero kung hindi naman talaga kumita ang company, wala akong karapatan na humingi ng increase. Kesa naman magsara ang kumpanya, mas maraming apektado.

**mommyblue** · October 3rd, 2007 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by Galactus

Re: a) Bonus, I would assume that it's the 13th month pay. Mandated by law ang 13th
month, so no choice talaga ang employer kundi ibigay ito sa empleyado. Otherwise, pwede siyang kasuhan.

Pero regarding b) outing , OK lang sa akin na wala. Actually, I value my weekends kasi its rest day for me. Eh di ba normally Saturday and Sunday ang outing, tapos usually out-of-town pa? Tapos, papasok ka pa ng Monday, kaya tagtag sobra ang feeling.

Sa c) salary increase, pag hindi binigay, yan ang medyo disappointing. Pero kung hindi naman talaga kumita ang company, wala akong karapatan na humingi ng increase. Kesa naman magsara ang kumpanya, mas maraming apektado.

agree ako sayo papi

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idemanda ang employer kung hindi ibibigay ang 13th month sabay RESIGN

..

yung sa outing, kapagod talaga.. ok lang kung wala kasi more time for family day.. ok lang din na meron kasi at least bonding ng mga opismeyts..

very disappointing kamo papi kung walang salary increase.. kaya RESIGN

na sabay lipat sa ibang account or employer.. para saan pa ang pagsisipag kung wala namang goal na salary increase or promotion di ba?..

**red07** · October 3rd, 2007 08:49 AM

Walang Salary Increase - Ok lang
Walang Company Outing - Ok lang
Walang Bonus - Ayoko na magdemanda, resign na lang.

**vhenok** · October 3rd, 2007 12:10 PM

Sigurado maraming magkaka-LBM nyan.....

L - Looking for
B - Better
M - Management

**uls** · October 3rd, 2007 12:23 PM

no company outing ok lang

no salary increase ok lang

no bonus? pag sobra down ang business, i can understand. but if business is as good as last year, or better than last year, why?

**Memphis Raines** · October 3rd, 2007 12:41 PM

Those are the 3 signs of management malnutrition

and perhaps a company about to go under due to financial woes.

Bail out na pare, before things get really worse.

**Lucius** · October 3rd, 2007 12:46 PM

Ok ba to kahit sa mga hindi nagwowork?

BONUS- no choice but my mom has to give me something around 7-10k

Company outing- if I'm going somewhere in the spirit of Christmas, it would be with someone special

Salary increase- not possible, since next year I will work for a few months + ung mga negosyso will mobilize na

**shadow** · October 3rd, 2007 12:57 PM

ok lang.....kasi ako ang magbibigay ng bonus eh....and wala akong bonus or salary increase....pwede rin ba akong mag reklamo....? hehehehe

seriously, I make it a point na talagang maibigay ang bonus sa mga tao ko, it's not bec nasa law natin but bec inaasahan na rin talaga nila and ng pamilya nila especially sa mga entry/lower level staffs....parang napakalaki ng magagawa ng bonus for them to have a merry x'mas.....

kung hinde naman lugi ang company, I don't see the point na hinde maibigay....kung hinde masyadong malaki kinita that year siguro pwede naman pakiusapan na mababawasan din ang bonus pero meron pa rin at hinde totally wala....(i.e kung 10k before ang narerecieved gawin 5k..)

**istan** · October 3rd, 2007 01:04 PM

Well, this year sucks so acceptable. Basta 13th month ibigay.

**1D4LV** · October 3rd, 2007 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by VtEC

since malapit na bigayan ng mga bonus,
para sa mga employed who usually get their bonuses;
though this is a company prerogative.

How would you react if one day your boss appeared to you and said,
for the year (2007 and 2008) there will be no;

a) BONUS
b) Company outing
c) salary increase

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if you are talking about (A) Bonus = 13th month pay. Hindi pwede mawala yun. hehehehe. mandated by law yun.

other bonuses are outside of what is mandated by law and is discretionary. so kung wala talaga, eh di wala. we just have to be thankful that we still have our jobs. yun nga lang tuyo ang pasko.

sa company outing naman, ganun din yun. this is a discretionary employee benefit. and most of the time, hindi naman ako sumasama eh.

sa salary increases naman, ganun pa din. discretionary pa din yan depende sa performance ng company. although experience ko dito sa former company ko is 3 years akong hindi nabigyan ng increase dahil mainit mata sa akin ng company president, pero ok lang.

gaya nga ng sabi ko, it's a blessing that i still have a job.

nga pala. pag hindi nagbigay ng 13th month pay yung company nyo, sumbong nyo sa DOLE. bawal yan.

although, afaik, the payment of a 13th month pay depends on the employment status of an employee. Usually, from Proby to Regular binibigay yan. Pero pag consultant basis, walang ganyan. Normally, for consultants, the 13th month is factored into 12 months and is payable monthly. Pero depende pa din sa consulting company.

**wewoy_romero** · October 3rd, 2007 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Galactus

Re: a) Bonus, I would assume that it's the 13th month pay. Mandated by law ang 13th
month, so no choice talaga ang employer kundi ibigay ito sa empleyado. Otherwise, pwede siyang kasuhan.

Pero regarding b) outing , OK lang sa akin na wala. Actually, I value my weekends kasi its rest day for me. Eh di ba normally Saturday and Sunday ang outing, tapos usually out-of-town pa? Tapos, papasok ka pa ng Monday, kaya tagtag sobra ang feeling.

Sa c) salary increase, pag hindi binigay, yan ang medyo disappointing. Pero kung hindi naman talaga kumita ang company, wala akong karapatan na humingi ng increase. Kesa naman magsara ang kumpanya, mas maraming apektado.

agree.

13th month is mandated by law.
outing is just an extra. kahit wala yan forever, ok lang sa akin
salary increase - depends on the situation. kung wala talaga kinita or belt-tightening or kung di ko talaga deserve for this year, edi ok lang.

**marco624** · October 3rd, 2007 07:45 PM

Parang company namin eto ah....although me outing kami, kaya lang mas gusto namin ang bunos at increase kesa outing, kapagod lang un...

Pero di puedeng walang 13th month pay, mag kakagulo pag di binigay yun

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