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[SidCoronel]

Give a little background, I can't say employer is wrong, since we don't know the context or what really happen.

But it's Employee's responsibility to file the leave in advance.

Fix date naman yun graduation date.

It's unfair to solicit reply without the whole picture.

If employee don't agree then resign and look for a new job. That simple.

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I like this answer, it's suave, cool level headed. If I may add.... after you resign kick this heartless, orphan, no-family value monster

[CVT]

Only fair naman.

If you're sick, ok lang. Hindi naman pinaplano yan (except for Sick leaves used to go to the doctor pero by appointment naman pala)

Pero pag ganitong bagay (like a graduation), hindi pwedeng biglaan... Nakakasira ng schedule and sets a precedent for others

Mayroon namang two weeks ahead mag file.

As if I know what will happen in two weeks....

And so I would say, conditionally approved.

Approach me for my final approval two days before the leave.

[minicarph]

pag anak sa una asawa yun graduate pwede ba mag-leave, pero hiwalay na

[dr. d]

Yes, employees are filing their leave 3 days in advance prior to the graduation day, upon submitting their leave, employer will go like "graduation lang mag aabsent na? do you really have to attend the gradutaion? kami nga nung nag graduate anak namin hindi kami umattend, if you want to go on leave then you might as well go on leave forever" (in mandarin), employers are taiwanese, and nature of business is manufacturing of furnitures.

3 days prior... is this company policy?

so, i am curious.
ilang empleyado ang total workforce, and ilan ang nag-file ng leave?
the statement lends me to assume, that more than one employee-parent is going to the same graduation.

[supadude]

minsan kawawa din mga employee sa atin. parang mga kabayo na pinapatakbo lang. maybe kaya nag leave nalang yun employee without notice because sa tingin niya hinde siya papayagan ng employer or manager niya.

kung ang reason ng manager is sila nga nag graduate anak nila hinde sila nag attend, eh problema na nila yun ibahin niyo si employee niyo mas family oriented siya and he values the milestone of his kids. kumbaga family first before anything else.

let say this employee eh super dedicated sa work, pag tanda niya at hinde na siya productive, papatalsikin din siya sa company to be replace by a young guy, wala nang say say mga sacrifices niya sa company. where as yun mga important milestones ng family kahit tumanda ka na hanggang hukay dala mo yun mga good memories na yun.

just saying...

[ray_noel]

Yeah, the boss is not being effective leader...
to be effective one should think win-win situation, if he just approved the leave, the employee would be happy and the family will be happy too and that would make the employee stay longer and work harder to the company thus win-win... but what he does is win-lose... the employer won by not approving the leave and lose because the employee is not happy and possibly will leave the company...


“ i am free to choose and am ultimately responsible for my happiness...”

If the work environment doesn’t make you feel happy, you should have the courage and be free to choose to stay and not being happy or to look for a new job and be happy....


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[shadow]

Nobody's indispensable. Wala rin pumipigil sa Employees umalis.



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[5000rpm]

3 days prior... is this company policy?

so, i am curious.
ilang empleyado ang total workforce, and ilan ang nag-file ng leave?
the statement lends me to assume, that more than one employee-parent is going to the same graduation.

Yes it's company's policy to file a leave atleast 2 days before the said leave, but if leaving for a week or more, they should file their leave a month ahead.. and only 1 employee of the same department is allowed to go on leave at the same time.. as for this instance, only one employee filed a leave..

[dreamur]

What does HR have to say? Also DOLE regularly visits offices/factories and assuming the inspector is not corrupt, this could come up during those random interviews.

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[5000rpm]

What does HR have to say? Also DOLE regularly visits offices/factories and assuming the inspector is not corrupt, this could come up during those random interviews.

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HR can't do anything either.. they are bound to whatever decision the top bosses make..


I do understand the employers whenever they deny or question those employees that often file a leave with unnecessary reason, or leaves with common excuses used again and again by the same employee.. although some companies (i think) accepts leave due to the employee having his/her birthday, I would understand if the same will also be denied since you can celebrate it after work or few days in advance.. dito lang ako medyo napaisip.. I mean, they also have their children, wouldn't they feel proud and happy if they have attended their son's graduation? No offense, but.. this is my first time to hear parents say those words and as if they're proud of it na "kami nga hindi kami umattend ng gradutaion ng anak namin.." don't know what their reason for doing so, but using it as a reason to hinder someone from doing so is parang unfair.. dito na din siguro papasok yung "work-life balance"..

Just to reiterate, business is not into emergency response of some sort or anything similar that requires 24 hours operation, and not very specific with deadlines..

[chronicle]

How about the number of employees? Big company or small company where 1 or 2 person on leave can disrupt the operation.

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[5000rpm]

How about the number of employees? Big company or small company where 1 or 2 person on leave can disrupt the operation.

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Number of employees is around 70..

[chronicle]

Pretty small. Can understand the employer if the leave is not approved due to operations.

But to blurp out things like "kung ako nga, di umattend sa graduation ng anak ko" is uncalled for.

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[5000rpm]

Pretty small. Can understand the employer if the leave is not approved due to operations.

But to blurp out things like "kung ako nga, di umattend sa graduation ng anak ko" is uncalled for.

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yup, that's actually what got me thinking

[KingoftheNorth]

Pretty small. Can understand the employer if the leave is not approved due to operations.

But to blurp out things like "kung ako nga, di umattend sa graduation ng anak ko" is uncalled for.

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It's FOUL.

Who is he to substitute or apply his personal situation to that of his subordinate? It also sends the wrong message that it's perfectly alright to disregard family no matter how important the occasion so long as the employee has work to do.

[chronicle]

There is also a human side that some companies might be forgetting. They might as well hire robots. Hehe.

Well that is the future din naman. Automation.

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[dreamur]

Number of employees is around 70..

Labor dictates 6 leave days per year. So long as the employee provided enough notice, that should not be denied (regardless of the reason). This would be a ripe recipe for a labor issue. Your company is just waiting for unionized labor to infiltrate you.

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[5000rpm]

It's FOUL.

Who is he to substitute or apply his personal situation to that of his subordinate? It also sends the wrong message that it's perfectly alright to disregard family no matter how important the occasion so long as the employee has work to do.

yeah.. exactly..

[5000rpm]

Labor dictates 6 leave days per year. So long as the employee provided enough notice, that should not be denied (regardless of the reason). This would be a ripe recipe for a labor issue. Your company is just waiting for unionized labor to infiltrate you.

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That almost happened before.. but the supposed leader was expelled due to other reason..

[Sweetlucious]

Could it be that he’s not an ideal employee, and employer just setting up a harsh working environment for him to leave voluntarily?
Kasi mahirap magfire ng employee, daming notices/warnings needed, strained na yun relationship once you send those out. And the thing is nandun pa sya sa loob ng company in that span of time.