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    #201
    Quote Originally Posted by IceColdBeer
    Based from survey, 8 out of 10 in Metro Manila and 7 out of 10 outside Metro Manila wants the truth and yet most of the Congressmen voted "Yes" to kill the impeachment.
    Based from another survey, 11 out of 20 in Metro Manila and only 1 out of 15 outside Metro Manila wants the truth.

    So what survey do you want to believe? Of course the survey that is the same with your opinion!

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    #202
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
    Based from another survey, 11 out of 20 in Metro Manila and only 1 out of 15 outside Metro Manila wants the truth.

    So what survey do you want to believe? Of course the survey that is the same with your opinion!
    Correct! Like you, I am not trying to convince you since set na ang mind mo about GMA and for me, set na din ang mind ko na walang kwenta si GMA
    Saan mo nga pala nakuha ang survey na yan? Tanong lang po ;)

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    #203
    Erap never resigned. He was threatened. Si GMA kakampi yung nanakot kay Erap.

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    #204
    Quote Originally Posted by IceColdBeer
    Correct! Like you, I am not trying to convince you since set na ang mind mo about GMA
    That's your assumption. I am not pro-GMA. I voted for EDDIE VILLANUEVA in the last elections. I just want to follow the RULE OF LAW just for once.


    Quote Originally Posted by IceColdBeer
    Saan mo nga pala nakuha ang survey na yan? Tanong lang po ;)
    I got my survey from ESPN based on the response of 3,000 football fans. How about you? Where did you get your survey?

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    #205
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
    If there is something to be learned from the case of Erap, it is NEVER RESIGN just because there is a huge rally at the Edsa Monument. The voices of the silent majority during the EDSA DOS was never heard. And that's the tragedy of rallies and street justice.

    If Erap's impeachment was allowed to go through without the theatrics of the opposition, Erap would have been in power until now.

    GMA cannot allow herself to be victimized by her own medicine, right?
    Erap never resigned. He was threatened. Si GMA kakampi yung nanakot kay Erap.
    That's your assumption. I am not pro-GMA. I voted for EDDIE VILLANUEVA in the last elections. I just want to follow the RULE OF LAW just for once.
    the justice committee report had some flaws... wasn't done properly, even majority congressman arnulfo fuentebella stated that n his speech.

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    #206
    EDSA 4 is brewing?

    Just try passing by the People Power monument... less than a dozen people are there...

    How pathetic.

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    #207
    Quote Originally Posted by baiskee
    the justice committee report had some flaws... wasn't done properly, even majority congressman arnulfo fuentebella stated that n his speech.
    If it is flawed, file a complaint to the Supreme Court. If it is overturned, then so be it, follow the next steps. If it is upheld, then accept the decision and MOVE ON.

    Let's use the RULE OF LAW just for once.

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    #208
    Quote Originally Posted by baiskee
    the justice committee report had some flaws... wasn't done properly, even majority congressman arnulfo fuentebella stated that n his speech.
    and as per our Constitution, the Lower House can vote for or against the said justice committee resolution.

    the opposition was so close into sending this to the Upper House. but what happened during the day of voting? prominent members of the pro-impeachment move was absent for crying out loud!

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    #209
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    prominent members of the pro-impeachment move was absent for crying out loud!
    that's another scenario... problema na ng oposisyon yan, they will ask some explanations from the absent reps for sure.

    ano naman kinalaman sa committee report nito?

    If it is flawed, file a complaint to the Supreme Court. If it is overturned, then so be it, follow the next steps. If it is upheld, then accept the decision and MOVE ON.

    Let's use the RULE OF LAW just for once.
    well, that's what they are doing right now... haven't heard the news?

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    #210
    i think the people want stability more than the truth at this point .. especially the truth which is being peddled by self-serving individuals from both camps .. people believe their own truths and have already judged gma one way or the other .. which is probably why they are staying away from rallies .. at this point, i don't think their silence is apathy .. i think their silence has the loudest message to the administration and opposition .. which is shut up and get on with your lives ..

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    #211
    Quote Originally Posted by baiskee
    well, that's what they are doing right now... haven't heard the news?
    Yup, I read it on the papers yesterday. And that's the way to do it. I support that kind of action. If all other legal options have been exhausted, then it's time to accept the outcome.

    Instead of the suggestions made by other opposition people who vowed to take their case to the streets using a "People's Court" where surely nobody would dare oppose them. They want to take their case to a court where they expect the judge to rule in their favor.

    What kind of professional lawmaker or sensible matured adult would endorse such suggestion, right?

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    #212
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    the plain & simple truth, all popular figures have skeletons in their closet, regardless kung President or opposition or Cardinal or Celebs.

    if you can't work or function properly at the office or at school or at home coz you need to know the truth first about GMA, then I suggest you relax first, maybe you're just becoming too anxious.

    not all people want to know the truth. in fact some people believe in the saying: "ignorance is bliss."
    your putting words in my mouth kid
    i said i want the thruth don't we all? me question mark pa yan.

    exxagerated naman na sinabi mo can't work function properly hmmmm... is that you wheew I still want the thruth though.

    Not all people want to know the truth--- denial na yon

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    #213
    what a bunch of cry babies...

    at least Lozano has the balls (and even brains) to file a complaint with the SC.

    Pro-impeach solons give up on SC, to take case to streets

    First posted 11:24am (Mla time) Sept 09, 2005
    By Tetch Torres
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    PRO-IMPEACHMENT lawmakers will no longer file a petition at the Supreme Court questioning the decision of the House of Representatives to dismiss all impeachment complaints filed against President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and will instead take their case to the streets, a lawyer for the group said Thursday.

    "There will be no more filing (before the Supreme Court). The Congressmen decided to go to the streets and plead before the people," Harry Roque told INQ7.

    He said the lawmakers made the decision in a meeting in Makati Thursday night. "Obviously they think it is more effective."

    Last Tuesday, the House voted 158-51 to uphold a justice committee report recommending the dismissal of three impeachment complaints against Arroyo whom they accused of alleged poll fraud, among others.

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    #214
    Quote Originally Posted by qman
    di porke mas makasalanan si pedro eh di mo na papansinin ang kasalanan ni juan. Ang kasalanan ay kasalanan sino pa man ang me gawa dapat panagutan.
    The point is, they have their own unfinished business to settle with the people. Kaya bago sila magturo sa kasalanan ng iba, siguraduhin muna nila na naayos na nila ang mga issues laban sa kanila.

    We demand GMA to pay for her improprieties while others before her get away with their CRIMES. Who's being selective now?

    Have we not learned in the case of Erap, kalagitnaan ng impeachment nag Edsa asan ang closure doon. Okey nililitis sya ngayon, pero matapos syang paalisin, asan ngayon ang pinas BIYAK.
    Erap buckled under pressure. He does not have the makings of a President, and never will, as evidenced by the lack of firmness and resolve on his part. Puro papogi, pa-macho, pa-postura sa pelikula, pero pagdating sa totoong buhay, lumalabas na wala palang binatbat si Asiong.

    Besides, the Estradas only have themselves to thank (blame?) kung bakit biyak ang Pilipinas, because they turned everything into a class war. You know, the whole "rich vs. poor" bullcrap. My family was practically straddling the poverty line at the time when Erap became president, but I never took it against the rich. Some hero of the masses...

    anyways yes I want the thruth about arroyo don't we all?
    Which is why she should have been impeached, if we only had MORE WORTHY members of the opposition.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; September 9th, 2005 at 02:22 PM.

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    Tama! people need not go out on the streets and speak out their sentiments. They are just wasting their time. I'm sure even without the street protests, GMA will find a way to get herself in to trouble again. Let us let her work on the economy since she has a lot of debts to pay. Ang daming rain check issued to congressmen, businessmen, etc. Kailangan ng sangkatutak na pondo nyan. Then let her tax the the people some more. Dapat socialized. Mas malaki dapat ang tax sa middle class and elite. Anyways, they will not complain. Most of us are happy with her around. Wala naman tayong ipapalit diba? Hindi naman natin kailangan ang katotohanan. Importante, tahimik tayong magnegosyo. Pera pera na lang and to hell with principles!!!

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    #216
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
    That's your assumption. I am not pro-GMA. I voted for EDDIE VILLANUEVA in the last elections. I just want to follow the RULE OF LAW just for once.



    I got my survey from ESPN based on the response of 3,000 football fans. How about you? Where did you get your survey?
    Well for one, I didn't say that you are pro-GMA. Rule of law is good if it's being followed without any prejudice.

    There was a joke I heard just this morning.

    TRUTH COMMISSION = 51 congressmen voted to know the TRUTH and 158 congressmen got the COMMISSION :bwahaha:

    As for the survey, I saw it on the newspaper before and heard it over the radio. I think it's SWS or Pulse Asia.

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    #217
    abangan na lang natin ang shame campaign against you know who...


    mas matindi ito, baka meron na video , kasi ayaw ng audio tape eh...

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    #218
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    what a bunch of cry babies...

    at least Lozano has the balls (and even brains) to file a complaint with the SC.
    Baka iniisip lang nila wala ding mangyayari sa SC

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    #219
    Quote Originally Posted by RedHorse
    abangan na lang natin ang shame campaign against you know who...


    mas matindi ito, baka meron na video , kasi ayaw ng audio tape eh...
    Pre paano yan kung walang shame

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    #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman

    Puro papogi, pa-macho, pa-postura sa pelikula, pero pagdating sa totoong buhay, lumalabas na wala palang binatbat si Asiong.
    Disagree ako diyan. Bakit? Ang laki-laki ng mga bahay ng mga pamilya ni Erap Velarde ah. May wave machine pa at sand na galing pa sa Bohol! Mwahaha.

    Mandarambong kasi ang pamilya! Ang lakas talaga ng apog ni Erap Velarde na iyan...

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