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  1. Join Date
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    #351
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    easy for us to say.
    we don't have ties to the place.

    asking them to leave, is akin to blindfolding them and shipping them off to a furrin land.

    my opinion.
    agree doc, easier said than done

    we can't blame some that prefer to stay, if yun lang ang natitirang property nila.

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    mas short term ang utak ng tao kesa geology

    geologic time is measured in decades, centuries, millenia...

    a volcano can rest for decades or centuries between explosions so humans see that period of peace as permanent kaya people live around volcanoes
    places na may source ng drinking water ang unang i-populate ng tao. then comes next yung source ng pagkain. and most places around or nearby volcanoes are so fertile that cultivation of food crops is easy.

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    #352
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    WOndering if the people on Volcano Island have land titles... And how the hell did they get one since the island was already declared a permanent danger zone.
    ancient spanish titles, yes! tapos meron nakalusot na tct, alam mo ba dati eh bakahan yan, piangbawal lang ng government.

    eto pa saan ka nakakita about few decades ago, nag iisang national park ang taal pero may mga tct ang mga tao... eh national park ay patrimonial property. parang kung umorder ka ng tahong sa resturant at meron ka na discover na pearl sa tahong, sino may ari? - clue na ha!!!!
    Last edited by victorevolution; January 16th, 2020 at 10:41 AM.

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    #353
    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    agree doc, easier said than done

    we can't blame some that prefer to stay, if yun lang ang natitirang property nila.



    places na may source ng drinking water ang unang i-populate ng tao. then comes next yung source ng pagkain. and most places around or nearby volcanoes are so fertile that cultivation of food crops is easy.

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    icarus nga

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    #354
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    WOndering if the people on Volcano Island have land titles... And how the hell did they get one since the island was already declared a permanent danger zone.
    Rights only. Its a national park, but I recall that during the time of Ramos there was an EO or law passed allowing settlement/rights claims.

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    #355
    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    agree doc, easier said than done

    we can't blame some that prefer to stay, if yun lang ang natitirang property nila.



    places na may source ng drinking water ang unang i-populate ng tao. then comes next yung source ng pagkain. and most places around or nearby volcanoes are so fertile that cultivation of food crops is easy.

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    We can't blame them to say in basically a barren land now? There's no water, electricity, food source, etc plus the looming deadly eruption that's coming and will certainly result to their deaths.

    Pwede naman sila bumalik basta huwag na sila mag expect ng tulong from govt or anybody else.

    Pwede naman nila sabihin they will absolve LGU and everybody pag namatay nila and huwag na sila I rescue pag pumutok na taal. Saka hinde na rin sila isama sa evacuation center just in case makalabas sila ng buhay.

    They obviously don't value their lives, so why should everybody else bother as well.

    Itong mga ito yun unang-una magreklamo pag hinde nakarating agad tulong from govt dahil sa kagagawan din nila.

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    Last edited by shadow; January 16th, 2020 at 11:04 AM.

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    #356
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    easy for us to say.
    we don't have ties to the place.

    asking them to leave, is akin to blindfolding them and shipping them off to a furrin land.

    my opinion.
    It's not so much as ties to their place. But living in an evacuation area is very uncomfortable.

    Mahirap matulog sa semento na cardboard lang ang sapin. Na isang libo kayo sa area pero 2 lang CR.

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    #357
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Also those club shares/rights to golf courses in and near the danger zone...

    Tagaytay Highland holes 13 to 14...

    “It’s gonna take a while (before the courses open), we have a lot of work to do,” says Rhoneil Cousart, golf director of Tagaytay Highlands and Midlands.
    you won't have anything left to open after taal explodes again

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    #358
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    you won't have anything left to open after taal explodes again
    I'll miss those Bulalo restaurants in Tagaytay...

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    #359
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    I'll miss those Bulalo restaurants in Tagaytay...
    sa rose and grace sa nuvali na lang.

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    #360
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    It’s a ticking time bomb, Taal Volcano now. If it’s pumping magma from all over the faults and plates to the generate a massive super volcano eruption . What is it up to? We don’t know
    oo we don't know

    nobody knows

    pwede ba siya sumabog mamaya? oo
    pwede ba siya sumabog bukas? oo
    pwede ba siya sumabog next week or next month? oo
    pwede ba siya hindi sumabog at matulog uli nang matagal? oo


    But our attitudes don’t help either. Yun mga mayari ng businesses sa tagaytay parang asar na asar pa at pumutok ang Bulkan, pampasira sa business nila.

    Nagmamadali sila mag-open ulet dun, pressure ang LGU, Meralco, Manila Water para ma-restore kagad para back to business sila, at baka masira ledger ng January 2020.
    syempre that's human nature

    people want things to go back to normal

    ang sugal dyan pag di mo alisin ang abo mas malaki damage pag tumagal

    syempre nandun ung thought na pwede sumabog uli ang taal at mapunta sa wala ung paglilinis

    ano gusto mo gawin nila?

    give up?

    abandon lahat?

    what if hindi sumabog uli ang taal?

    you're dealing with people's psychology

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