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  1. Join Date
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    #361
    Waiting game lang talaga ngayon. As per CNN's latest update, mejo mas kalmado ngayon ang Taal sa labas. Nasa ilalim daw ang mga activities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    easy for us to say.
    we don't have ties to the place.

    asking them to leave, is akin to blindfolding them and shipping them off to a furrin land.

    my opinion.
    Exactly. It's not easy to abandon your home, livelihood and animals. You'd still try to save as much as you can. Wala ka na ngang bahay wala ka pang kabuhayan. You really cannot blame them.

    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    sa rose and grace sa nuvali na lang.
    mahal ng rose and grace.

    Sa mandaluyong lang circle, meron ng bulalo :P

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    #363
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    oo we don't know

    nobody knows

    pwede ba siya sumabog mamaya? oo
    pwede ba siya sumabog bukas? oo
    pwede ba siya sumabog next week or next month? oo
    pwede ba siya hindi sumabog at matulog uli nang matagal? oo




    syempre that's human nature

    people want things to go back to normal

    ang sugal dyan pag di mo alisin ang abo mas malaki damage pag tumagal

    syempre nandun ung thought na pwede sumabog uli ang taal at mapunta sa wala ung paglilinis

    ano gusto mo gawin nila?

    give up?

    abandon lahat?

    what if hindi sumabog uli ang taal?

    you're dealing with people's psychology


    kaya need baguhin, hindi sa wlang paki kasi meron ties or easier said than done.

    ng unang panahon pwede head hunting, tradition na nila- nabago na. yung pagkain ng aso uso dati kasi nasa culture, now even in the highland where it is legal to eat dog, this is delcining.

    need mabago kaysa puro waste of money, manpower and lives! ang makuha natin sa maliit na kita lamang.... ultra rich lang naman yumaman diyan eh

    let the 14km be a permanent danger zone where it is illegal to live.

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    #364
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    We can't blame them to say in basically a barren land now? There's no water, electricity, food source, etc plus the looming deadly eruption that's coming and will certainly result to their deaths.

    Pwede naman sila bumalik basta huwag na sila mag expect ng tulong from govt or anybody else.

    Pwede naman nila sabihin they will absolve LGU and everybody pag namatay nila and huwag na sila I rescue pag pumutok na taal. Saka hinde na rin sila isama sa evacuation center just in case makalabas sila ng buhay.

    They obviously don't value their lives, so why should everybody else bother as well.

    Itong mga ito yun unang-una magreklamo pag hinde nakarating agad tulong from govt dahil sa kagagawan din nila.

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    No government can/will do that. They can charge them later, but they still must be rescued/saved. Besides ask any lawyer and they will tell you waivers don't mean anything in court.

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    #365
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    It's not so much as ties to their place. But living in an evacuation area is very uncomfortable.

    Mahirap matulog sa semento na cardboard lang ang sapin. Na isang libo kayo sa area pero 2 lang CR.

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    I remember one social scientist/euthenicist/eugenicist who advocated leaving humans, at least those deemed unable to cope economically and socially to their fate as a way to stem population growth. But then look at the squatters and you realize, nature finds a way.

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    #366
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    No government can/will do that. They can charge them later, but they still must be rescued/saved. Besides ask any lawyer and they will tell you waivers don't mean anything in court.

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    That's my point. Pati buhay ng rescuers madadamay because of some fools. Tapos pag hinde ma rescue agad sila unang una puro reklamo sa Camera. Well, in the first place they shouldn't need rescuing if they just follow the evacuation protocol.


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    #367
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    No government can/will do that. They can charge them later, but they still must be rescued/saved. Besides ask any lawyer and they will tell you waivers don't mean anything in court.

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    you can, except universal rights like right to life etc... but yes you can waive your rights but not the universal one. IN WRITING

    technically you can waive your right to life- not by suicide, by not just eating.

    misnomer na walang bearing ang waiver sa court, gen rule you can waive your rights but there is always an exception

    add ko, sinong lawyer sumagot ng otherwise bukod sa sagot ko ay HINDI ABOGADO OR NAKAPASA NG BAR

    dare!!!!!
    Last edited by victorevolution; January 16th, 2020 at 12:34 PM.

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    #368
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    That's my point. Pati buhay ng rescuers madadamay because of some fools. Tapos pag hinde ma rescue agad sila unang una puro reklamo sa Camera. Well, in the first place they shouldn't need rescuing if they just follow the evacuation protocol.


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    RESCUERS also have the right not to rescue you if it will be next to impossible, but our rescuers are not sissies, bigyan mo ng matinong armas yan ubos ang mananakop na intsik at vietnamese sa wps.

    kaya namatay mga rescuers natin, wala kasing iwanan.

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    #369
    Quote Originally Posted by yubby24 View Post
    Waiting game lang talaga ngayon. As per CNN's latest update, mejo mas kalmado ngayon ang Taal sa labas. Nasa ilalim daw ang mga activities.
    This is actually scarier. This means none of the energy is being released and, instead, is being pent up like a pressure cooker.

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    #370
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post


    syempre that's human nature

    people want things to go back to normal

    ang sugal dyan pag di mo alisin ang abo mas malaki damage pag tumagal

    syempre nandun ung thought na pwede sumabog uli ang taal at mapunta sa wala ung paglilinis

    ano gusto mo gawin nila?

    give up?

    abandon lahat?

    what if hindi sumabog uli ang taal?

    you're dealing with people's psychology

    Wala naman problema dun kung may nakalimutan sila kasi bigla sila nagtakbuhan nun eruption or kailangan kumain ng manok at baboy


    They should start to talk to the lake itself, “Apo, makikiraan lang po at baka mamatay si piggy si horsey, alam ko hirap na hirap ka na ngaun at partly kasalanan ko ito nakadagdag pa ako sa burden mo. “

    Do they whisper simple prayers like that?

    Eto kasi ang dapat maintindihan ng tao or mga Pinoy.

    Nature supercedes man. Not the other way around. Hinde porkit wala kikitain, sira livelihood, maghihirap, yun ang tama. media is not helping either. Baluktot na katwiran yun

    God is the creator, Nature is the provider, Man is just the inhabitant. But both God and Nature want man to be there.

    Time will come and man will be tested, o i-pause ko muna ang mga ineenjoy mo, why? Because it’s a test to you, how far you’ve come? Are you just an addict who fished and fished or planted and planted like drug addicts? Are you strong enough to face a challenge na if everything is taken away from you, hinde ka mag downhill from here on?

    Kung tuusin there is courage for people to risk their lives to enter the danger zone. But are they doing it for true display of courage Or self-preservation lang talaga.

    The lake knows and she is keeping tabs of these attitudes.

    Yun ang mag dedecide kung puputok sya o hinde. Sigurado puputok if man did not learn anything at all.

    so that has to be the collective thinking of us all know, we should all RESPeCT the lake and the volcano truthfully. And baka ma-spare tayo ...

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