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    Ano ba meron sa mga gawang Aleman at laging pag made in Germany eh mahal pero matibay.. Mapa kotse man alam natin na pag Benz, BMW etc mahal tsaka matibay ang gawa. Kahit sa kusina pag kutsilyo o gamit pang kusina pag made in Germany matibay din daw. Ganun din sa mga tools. Pati sa gamit pang digmaan, napanood ko sa dicovery channel number 1 tank in the world yung Leopard tank nila, no 2 lang yung Abrams ng US. Noong WWII ganun din mga armas nila pinaka mahusay at technologically advanced. May nagsabi sakin iba daw ang halo nila o sistema sa pag halo ng bakal kaya ganun..Totoo ba yun? Bat hindi magaya ng ibang bansa yung ganon?

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    Baka nga kasi galing sila sa.... Hollow Earth.

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    You really won't appreciate it until you own a piece of it. For example, in my w123 I can tell that the parts were designed to be simple to operate and function, but were designed so complex that it would have taken many variations to come up with the simplest functioning design but one that can outlast other designs as well as be easily replaceable too.

    I guess it has to do with three things: precision, quality of materials and workmanship. For things to work properly they have to be precise, made of durable materials and be built together with care and not just as a mass produced item, even if it can be one.

    Just the other day I was taking a peek into the door mechanisms of my same w123, and it simple in function and yet so complex to design, to the point that installation can only be achieved the exact opposite of disassembly.

    In another instance, the centrifuge we're repairing at work has a bad circuit board (which costs $1500 apiece), but the mechanicals are so exact it can only be installed one way and removed the opposite way. It's solid design presents itself well to be durable enough to be used over and over again despite being exposed to hot temperatures when the samples are spinning at 60,000RPM and the R22 refrigerant cools it down at the same time.

    Basically, mahal sila kasi they're built to last. This means, they're built not just to last with original parts but also to be rebuilt, and not to be disposed of once it breaks.

    Just my own observation

    For your enjoyment here is a link to some famous German inventors

    http://inventors.about.com/od/german..._Inventors.htm

    You have Rudolf Diesel of the diesel engine, Nikolaus Otto of the gasoline engine, Karl Benz of the first motor car, etc.

    Here's another site you might want to check out

    http://www.vdi.de/vdi/english/

    As well as this

    http://www.ameinfo.com/64678.html
    Last edited by mbeige; November 25th, 2007 at 09:08 PM.

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    yup, metallurgy is the secret to any nation's success in both its economy and in war.

    kaya hindi umuunlad ang pilipinas kasi content tayo mag-export ng ore, di natin dinedevelop ang ating ores into steel and other alloys. kaya wala din tayong technology sa pag-gawa ng high grade metals na pwedeng gamitin sa pag-manufacture ng kotse, eroplano, barko, riles ng tren, etc etc etc. without an advanced metallurgy hanggang hukay na lang tayo ng ore, export sa japan and korea na konti lang ang kita, then saka natin bibilhin ang finished products like cars and other things. kikita tayo ng sentimo sa pag-export ng ore, tapos babayad tayo ng daang-libo para ankatin pabalik ang finished products.

    so sino nagsabi na matalino ang pinoy? tagal na nating niloloko sarili natin e. steel industry natin hanggang ngayon lata lang ng gatas ang kaya nating gawin. matagal na dapat ginawa ng gobyerno na i-nationalize ang steel industry at bigyan ng pondo at subsidy kung kailangan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Ano ba meron sa mga gawang Aleman at laging pag made in Germany eh mahal pero matibay.. Mapa kotse man alam natin na pag Benz, BMW etc mahal tsaka matibay ang gawa. Kahit sa kusina pag kutsilyo o gamit pang kusina pag made in Germany matibay din daw. Ganun din sa mga tools. Pati sa gamit pang digmaan, napanood ko sa dicovery channel number 1 tank in the world yung Leopard tank nila, no 2 lang yung Abrams ng US. Noong WWII ganun din mga armas nila pinaka mahusay at technologically advanced. May nagsabi sakin iba daw ang halo nila o sistema sa pag halo ng bakal kaya ganun..Totoo ba yun? Bat hindi magaya ng ibang bansa yung ganon?
    Simple, the Germans have made as part of their national pride of putting engineering excellence in almost everything they design and manufacture.

    BTW, not all german things were good. Take the WW2 Tiger tanks. They broke down very often because of overstretched engineering design.

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    I have worked with germans throughout my career..and almost got hired by them last year..all I can say is that..they are very precise and accurate in their work. They take pride in their accomplishments.

    I have worked with almost 20 nationalities..and the best are the germans. I have seen designs by Americans, Japanese, Koreans, British...but still the best are the germans.

    Amidst all of these..they are still human and can make mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Ano ba meron sa mga gawang Aleman at laging pag made in Germany eh mahal pero matibay.. Mapa kotse man alam natin na pag Benz, BMW etc mahal tsaka matibay ang gawa. Kahit sa kusina pag kutsilyo o gamit pang kusina pag made in Germany matibay din daw. Ganun din sa mga tools. Pati sa gamit pang digmaan, napanood ko sa dicovery channel number 1 tank in the world yung Leopard tank nila, no 2 lang yung Abrams ng US. Noong WWII ganun din mga armas nila pinaka mahusay at technologically advanced. May nagsabi sakin iba daw ang halo nila o sistema sa pag halo ng bakal kaya ganun..Totoo ba yun? Bat hindi magaya ng ibang bansa yung ganon?
    1.) Sa pagkakaalam ko, for some reason, the best ang German steel metallurgy. At least, yan yung experience ko sa mga makina namin.

    2.) Parang Hapon sila pag dating sa pride in their work. Di ko sasabihin work ethic, kasi sa experience namin, mahilig sila to take long breaks (eg: 1-2 month summer break). pero pag nagtrabaho, grabe, tindi sila sa attention to detail. of course, meron din sablay, pero majority ng mga ka-deal namin, ok. Talagang quality ang habol.

    I've been to a German works apprentice workshop, grabe, kawawa mga apprentice, pag nagkamali, talagang binabatukan. Karamihan sa kanila, talagang nahihiya pag binabatukan, double-time sila sa trabaho. Pag may nag-quit, ok lang. Tingin ng mga kasama nyang apprentice sa kanya, loser.

    3.) Di po Number 1 tank ang King Tiger/Leopard. I think 4 or 5 lang dahil sa mahirap i-manufacture. Pero, individually taken, sya yung best tank of WW2. Number 1 tank sa Discovery list yung Russian T-34.


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    Krupp steel ata yun...taga gawa nila ng mga kanyon...Diba gumawa din sila ng mga railway guns kanyon na tanging sa train lang pwede i transport sa sobrang laki...

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    Germans do really take the words Engineering Excellence seriously, pati mga architect of some iconic structures mga german ang nababasa ko. Kaya ako sobrang hands down talaga ko sa German Engineering.

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    ang german engineering hnd lang sa kotse , kahit sa ibang bagay tlga ganda pagkagawa nila. Nung WW2 may kasabihan diba , ang german tanks konti lang pero matibay. Ang american tanks marami pero mahina )

    kahit yung laptop ko ngayon na made in germany Fujitsu-Siemens ang tibay sobra. Nung bumili kasi ako laptop nakita ko yung mga acer , toshiba , mac (made in china) etc may feeling na "something is not right" Flawless tlga yung pag design wala ni isang button or crease na out of place kahit millimeters. Talo pa ng germany ang made in japan seriously.

    Pag magttrabaho ka sa germany ibang usapan na yan hahaha. Super strict ang superiors mo at mataas ang racial discrimination

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    Ich liebe Deutschland

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    In the business I know they're in,- they have a thousand and one processes.... And they think they're the best!

    Nightmare!

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    kumusta naman yung german brands na meron factory sa china? matigas pa rin yung bakal na gamit nila?

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    Germans are perfectionists!!! they rather keep their products sa shelves if not proven strong and durable. kanya lang, my experience are their products are bulky and heavy.
    totoo bang they have the highest IQ among all the races in the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    In the business I know they're in,- they have a thousand and one processes.... And they think they're the best!

    Nightmare!

    19.7K:boxing1:
    My German uncle is renovating their house... man it's taking sooo long with all the streamlining and whatever they're doing. Pero yeah, if he gets it done it's done pretty well and done right.

    When we had a E36 BMW before, the engine bay actually was simpler to look at and even doing minor things like removing the air filter and changing a light bulb was easier and one need no be a contortionist to reach for and pull things out.

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    meron bang german products na assembled ni china?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    meron bang german products na assembled ni china?
    BMW may planta sa China

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    ^mas mura kasi ang labor sa china ;)

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    ^

    eh bakit mahal pa rin BMW?

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