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    #81
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    credit rating: investment grade

    infrastructure: third world

    haha

    Agree with this 100%. We are a third world country pretending to be first world. Everything's fine and dandy until the next Ondoy rolls in.

    On the business side, this is what keeps costs of goods high.

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    #82
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    sir hindi kakayanin ng 2kva yan ganyan load... hindi tatagal genset nyo....

    60k MAHAL NAMAN... meron 5kva diesel silent type... nasa 39k lang... yangdong ang brand... made in china, pero maganda quality po nyan...
    i did some research on this a few years back; based on what a very helpful shop owner told me, Firman and Kipor ung medyo OK na China brands. The rest are meh. No idea about Powermate but they are the most visible.

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    #83
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    i did some research on this a few years back; based on what a very helpful shop owner told me, Firman and Kipor ung medyo OK na China brands. The rest are meh. No idea about Powermate but they are the most visible.
    AFAIK yangdong ang no. 1.. sa quality pagdating sa small genset... you can even ask big genset co. here in the phils... yangdong ang i-recommend sainyo...

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    #84
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    AFAIK yangdong ang no. 1.. sa quality pagdating sa small genset... you can even ask big genset co. here in the phils... yangdong ang i-recommend sainyo...
    Wala bang non-Chinese brand na available?

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    #85
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    i did some research on this a few years back; based on what a very helpful shop owner told me, Firman and Kipor ung medyo OK na China brands. The rest are meh. No idea about Powermate but they are the most visible.
    Powermate is a rebranded Coleman diba? China made as well


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    #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Bastos View Post
    Wala bang non-Chinese brand na available?
    Meron Taiwan brand...or mag Honda ka


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    #87
    Nawala kuryente kanina madaling araw, nagising ako di ko alam oras tapos wala AC buti malamig at nakatulog pa rin ako. Bumalik kuryente mga 5am

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    #88
    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    a brilliant idea alright but Enrile have done nothing about it, mas malaki siguro yun offer sa kabila
    Puro election campaign ideas lang magaling si Manong Johnny. Kaso hindi siya happy dun sa idea niya. Mas happy siya sa "import" biz niya sa Cagayan.:D

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    #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Bastos View Post
    Puro election campaign ideas lang magaling si Manong Johnny. Kaso hindi siya happy dun sa idea niya. Mas happy siya sa "import" biz niya sa Cagayan.:D
    ang focus ata ni manong ngayon eh ma-elect si Jack para tuloy pa rin happiness niya

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    #90
    yesterday nasa zambales ako, black out din sa southern parts. well i first noticed it when we were at cabangan already and the lights were out all the way to subic. did not notice it at sbma, may mga power generators sila.

    ganyan talaga ang protection features ng isang power grid. if the load goes more than 100% it will automatically lower the load by switching off sections (service stations, where you have the transformer farm). OR if a power station (generator) falls off line or goes out of sync (due to some problems internally) it will kick out that power station from the grid. if that happens and the load goes above 100% and the other generators will be overloaded before the load can be lowered then the safety features in the power station will automatically cause the power station to go off line to prevent it from overloading. that is the most probable reason why 6 power stations went off line and several service stations were cut off, to prevent the power stations from damage and to lower the load on the generators that are still on line.

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    #91
    kinulang nga ng supply sa lakas ng demand di kinaya ng grid

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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Bastos View Post
    Wala bang non-Chinese brand na available?
    maliliit na sets hindi ko alam eh... kubota ata sir...

    pero yangdong matibay talaga yan.... kaya nga ayan ang usual na binebenta ng generator co. dito at hindi basta basta nasisira...

    isipin mo nalang sa halagang 39k, kung hindi maganda quality, pati co. nyo masisira dahil lang sa halagang 39k..... then sakit din sa ulo ng companya ang after sales service naman...

    yung ibang nagbebenta ng gensets nga, rebage na yangdong yung gensets nila eh...

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    #93
    Wala bang non-Chinese brand na available?
    generac dude

    US of A

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    #94
    Small gensets (reconditioned), marami sa may evangelista sa quiapo, and soler street.

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    #95
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Meron Taiwan brand...or mag Honda ka
    VTEC dapat yung generator ha.

    I used to have a Yamaha at home which could support our lights and an aircon + refrigerator. Too bad i left it alone in the last few years and ended up junking it. If it's brownout and hot, i just load the kids up and head to my Tito's house (god bless Pinoy close family ties indeed) in the same subdivision where he has a generator that can power the entire house 100% (tambay nalang sa guest room). :D

    *Yebo, i think Subic still has it's own powerplant. I remember back in the dark ages (early 1990s), it was one of the places we would vacation at because walang power interruptions. Tatambay lang kami sa house halos buong araw at magbuhay baboy. The houses were nice as they were still in their US Naval Station spec that time.

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    #96
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    sir hindi kakayanin ng 2kva yan ganyan load... hindi tatagal genset nyo....

    60k MAHAL NAMAN... meron 5kva diesel silent type... nasa 39k lang... yangdong ang brand... made in china, pero maganda quality po nyan...
    Ahh, thanks sa tip boss. sa ace hard ware, wilcon at yung isang hardware (na nakalimutan) ko pa lang pangalan eh ako nagcanvass. pero dami pa gastos kaya ipon ipon mode muna.

    2kva kaya po ang 0.6hp -3/4hp na AC, 6~7.5cu.ft na ref, 2 normal electric fan (hindi yung bakal na mataas wattage) and 2 14w na CFL. 2kVa = 1,600 kw.

    2kVa = ~ 1600w

    AC 3/4hp = 560w
    EF x2 = 60w x 2 = 120w
    Ref 7cu.ft. = 165w
    CFL = 14wx2 = 28w

    Total Wattage: 873 watts - you still have spare for the starting current.

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    #97
    dapat nasa 80% lang ng KVA rating ang load mo lalo na kung inductive load.

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    #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    dapat nasa 80% lang ng KVA rating ang load mo lalo na kung inductive load.

    Sir Retz,

    pede na po ba yan kasi sabay ang ref at AC almost 50% lang para pagsumargo yung amperahe ng sabay kaya pa din ng generator.

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    #99
    Sa quiapo mag canvas kayo, meron naman dun mabibili na reconditioned na galing Japan.

    Sayang lang ang pera sa Bnew kung minsan mo lang gagamitin.

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    #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    Sa quiapo mag canvas kayo, meron naman dun mabibili na reconditioned na galing Japan.

    Sayang lang ang pera sa Bnew kung minsan mo lang gagamitin.
    heheheheh, sir yun nga po ang tricky part eh di natin alam kung ok po ba pagkakarecondition nito. pero mahirap pa nito minsan mo na lang gagamitin di mo pa nagamit. heheheh. peace.

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