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    #81
    Quote Originally Posted by staind
    Inutile in Lebanon

    According to Presidential Spokesman Mike Defensor and Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez, it would cost $300-$400 to ferry each person out by ship, or $12 million for all the 30,000 Filipinos in Lebanon. What is $12 million compared with the billions of dollars that we OFWs bring into the country? What is $12 million if that is the cost of our lives?
    my wife and i are also OFWs and we don't want that thing to happen to us just in case similar situation happens in our place. but you are assuming that the $12B+ remittances that we (OFWs) are sending to the philippines are going to the pocket of the government? i believe the only money that goes to the government are the tax charges to the banks (if there's any) for the remittances and the OWWA funds. the $12B+ remittances always go to the pockets of our families and relatives. we don't give it to the government for free. of course that money will help gain economic activity because we encourage (or discourage?) our relatives to spend the money.

    but i agree with you. what's $12m compared to the P1B+ money that was wasted by comelec to the contractor for election modernization? $12m is just a small amount compared to the money pocketed in the fertilizer scam?
    Last edited by explorer; July 21st, 2006 at 12:11 PM.

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    #82
    For mortals like us, only sympathy can be given to the OFWs. Dahil for mere mortals like me, the best I can do is pay my taxes, vote for my leaders, stay by the rules and critique the government of its plans & actions. Other than that would be a career in politics...... bwahahahahahaha

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    #83
    Quote Originally Posted by KoKoNAT
    Arm-chair critics and arm-chair generals prosper in the internet because of the relative anonymity it offers. Thus, can expect to express their 'opinion' and argue their case ad infinitum. The extent of their involvement in any discussion usually ends after clicking the 'Post Reply' button. Afterwards, they would pat themselves on the back for doing their bit in the democratic process by voicing their 'opinion'. And proceed to next thread or forum or website to occupy their time, all thought about the previous discussion completely forgotten, or at least pushed away for the meantime.

    Seriously, if you believe that voicing your 'opinion' here would change things in the world out there, you're deluded. What changes things out there are action, not words on a screen. Otherwise, you're no better the politicians that you love to hate.

    I should know, I used to be one too.

    'Less talk, more nutmeg...'
    Bullseye.

    NGOs (Worldvision, UNICEF, Red Cross, Gawad Kalinga, Bantay Bata, etc.) and your local parishes / churches badly need your help (time and/or money) in other equally (or even more) pressing issues.

    The great JFK sums this up nicely:

    "Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what can you do for your country."

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    #84
    Quote Originally Posted by KoKoNAT
    Arm-chair critics and arm-chair generals prosper in the internet because of the relative anonymity it offers. Thus, can expect to express their 'opinion' and argue their case ad infinitum. The extent of their involvement in any discussion usually ends after clicking the 'Post Reply' button. Afterwards, they would pat themselves on the back for doing their bit in the democratic process by voicing their 'opinion'. And proceed to next thread or forum or website to occupy their time, all thought about the previous discussion completely forgotten, or at least pushed away for the meantime.

    Seriously, if you believe that voicing your 'opinion' here would change things in the world out there, you're deluded. What changes things out there are action, not words on a screen. Otherwise, you're no better the politicians that you love to hate.

    I should know, I used to be one too.

    'Less talk, more nutmeg...'

    Erap said: "More talk, more mistakes. Less talk, less mistakes. No talk, no mistake."

    For me, Less or no talk, more action.

    Yung mga mahilig bumanat, walang mga sustansya sa utak yan. Pretending to know so many things but in reality, coconut is better.
    Last edited by Trajano; July 21st, 2006 at 12:47 PM.

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    #85
    canada, who has the largest number of people in lebanon, only evacuated "some" of their people yesterday.

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    #86
    Australians are complaining too for lack of or no action from their government.

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    #87
    Quote Originally Posted by M54 Powered
    i was thinking the same thing as imprezawrxsti when i read the article....35,000 pinoys in Lebanon??! anong ginagawa nila dun? i'm not the most informed person about pinoy OFW's so i guess that was a surprise for me.
    sobra laki ang 35,000 pinoys sa Lebanon...Racket lang ng mga taga government para maka nakaw naman ng pera ng taong bayan...150 million na release to rescue the 35,000? sa totoo lang less than 5 thousand pinoy sa Lebanon. sino lokohin nyo? mga kawatan kayo!!!

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    #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Trajano
    Erap said: "More talk, more mistakes. Less talk, less mistakes. No talk, no mistake."

    sinabi nya yan? bigaattt! parang confucius ang dating ah! hehehe

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    #89
    medyo ot pero lebanon pa din. kakaawa mga bata

    http://www.aromis.ae/LEBANON/

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    #90
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    sinabi nya yan? bigaattt! parang confucius ang dating ah! hehehe
    :evillaugh

    mabagsik talaga si Erap, bwahahahahaa

    mamamatay na si Ninong Al? at mabuti naman hindi tangkang agawin ni Emilio si Dorina kay Adora. At mukhang aamin na si Oman kay Dorinaaaa...awoooo

    lahat yata ng tao eh likas na complainer dahil ibat ibang bansa eh may mga reklamador...

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    #91
    Quote Originally Posted by mikmik316
    hahahaha ang laki ng problema nyo sa mga sinasagot ko sasakit lang ulo nyo sa kakasagot... ngayon if your channeling all your posts in reacting to what I say about the government then I guess hahaba lang ng hahaba ang thread nato for bashing the government.

    Now for those who sympathize with the OFWs plight... vigilance lang ang kailangan para masagap kung ano ang nangyayari sa mga kapwa pinoy natin sa middle east.

    Now if you think of OFW's reaction if they will stay or no... That's Pinoy culture at its worst... Ang gusto pa nila e tamaan pa sila ng bomba bago kumaripas ng takbo at humingi ng tulong sa gobyerno... Now pag meron namang casualty dun, sisisihin ang gobyerno dahil hindi sila na-evacuate? What mentality....

    Kaya nga dapat DECISIVE ang government... Expect the worst, i-evacuate na lahat kahit ayaw nila. Now what we need here is some kind of martial law to discipline them and force them to evacuate... That's the best thing to do to prevent more casualties, prevent media focusing on small numbers of pinoy na matigas ang ulo tapos magrereklamo na nde sila natulungan ng gobyerno...

    Now I am not aware when this war started but judging at the time line of how things are unfolding.... The government still has a slow reaction....


    sa 3rd alarm pa lang yung situation kaya kung hindi gusto ng mga OFW na umalis eh walang magagawa ang gobyerno...now kung ginawa naman nila yumng sinabi mo na force evacuation...im sure nandyan nanaman yung magrereklamo sila ng human rights nila ay nilabag ng gobyerno.

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    #92
    An exceprt from today's PJ headline


    Where's The Money?

    IT may not be a simple case of failure on the part of the Overseas Workers Welfare Administration to quickly release funds to cover the cost of repatriating thousands of Filipino workers from war-torn Lebanon.

    In addition to suspicion of missing funds, there are widespread allegations that some OWWA people tasked to repatriate distressed Filipino workers were squabbling over the “fat commissions” better known as patronage rebates given by airline firms to travel agencies and other ticket buyers.

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    Sumalosep naman talaga ang mga tao natin sa gobyerno! Pati ba naman itong budget sa repatriation ng OFWs natin sa Lebanon, di pinatawad.

    Maawa naman kayo sa mga kababayan natin! Kayong mga "ogags" sa OWWA, tamaan sana kayo ng kidlat!

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    #93
    Mga walang patawad mga kawatan kayo!!! PWE!!

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