Generator sets

[userfriendly]

ok yan. just don't forget to turn off and unplug your generator before switching on the breaker. PAgnagsalubong ang kuryente.......:boom1:

[BoEinG_747]

ako ginagawa ko sa gen set namin pag brown out patay ko lang circuit breaker then yung output ng genset saksak ko lang sa kahit saang power input, viola!!

make sure naka switch OFF ang circuit breaker nyo
pwede din iyan ang hassle niyan ang mag tap ka sa Load Side ng CB ninyo every time may Brownout

! may kuryente na kami na kami (electric fan nga lang, aircon at tv, sa ilaw, lamp lang na de saksak, hiwalay kasi linya ng ilaw sa saksakan eh)

ang proper electrical design naman talaga ay hiwalay
ang mga Lighting Outlet (LO) sa mga Convenience Outlet (CO)

kaya minsan kung may nagshort circuit sa mga CO ninyo at nag trip ang breaker non ,may ilaw pa din sa bahay or room ninyo

same ng mga Water Heater,ACU may kanya kanya sila breaker

[kinyo]

ako ginagawa ko sa gen set namin pag brown out patay ko lang circuit breaker then yung output ng genset saksak ko lang sa kahit saang power input, viola!!! may kuryente na kami na kami (electric fan nga lang, aircon at tv, sa ilaw, lamp lang na de saksak, hiwalay kasi linya ng ilaw sa saksakan eh)

its not safe and surely a violation of electrical code ... better install an mts before its too late

[CVT]

its not safe and surely a violation of electrical code ... better install an mts before its too late

Actually, okay lang dapat iyan kung isasaksak mo ang output ng genset sa isang outlet na may 30A na breaker, which I assume has wiring capable of accomodating 30A. Kasi 30A x 220V = 6600VA or 6.6KVA,- meaning huwag lang tataas ang genset mo sa ganyang power output.

And most importantly, turn-off the main breaker. If not, then the genset will be acting like a load (i.e. a motor) when regular power returns. Iyan ang delikado!


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[Isuzoom]

accident waiting to happen............

[driven]

what i did naman is i installed a panel intended for use lang talaga with the generator, tapos after load balancing from that panel, distribute the supply to the load side of the main panel ng bahay, wherein i pick only those appliances that i really need to run during power failure... like water pumps, refrige, some aircon, selected convenient outlets and lightings. then yung remaining, still connected pa rin sa MERALCO, in that way, pwedeng simultaneous ang paggamit ko ng power from both MERALCO & generator, just want to observe lang if makakatipid ako sa power cost since consumption ko with MERALCO will be reduced... actually i just started today doing this kind of setup, still i need time pa to determine if makakatipid nga talaga.

[CVT]

accident waiting to happen............

IMO, not really if you know what you're doing and you understand your house's electrical wiring. Of course, the best is to engage a master electrician.


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[kinyo]

hindi po kayo makakatipid sir driven ... gamitin nyo lang ang genset kapag walang kuryente sa meralco para hindi sayang ang pera

you could be spending as much as 10 times the meralco rate for the energy coming from the genset ... but i'm not stopping you doing your experiment and tell us your findings ... the figure i've given is what i vaguely remember when we used our genset (6.5kVA Honda) long time ago

[RedHorse]

Ok yan lakas lang sa diesel at mahal ng parts. Siguro close to 100 liters per hour at 80% load. If you don't mind, where do you buy the filters and spare parts? Mahal kasi pag sa Monark. Cat Gensets din ang gamit namin.



Mali yata yung 9600kva dahil almost equivalent na yan sa 9.6MW pang power plant na yan bro.

thanks... 9600VA lang yon.. he he he

[driven]

hindi po kayo makakatipid sir driven ... gamitin nyo lang ang genset kapag walang kuryente sa meralco para hindi sayang ang pera

you could be spending as much as 10 times the meralco rate for the energy coming from the genset ... but i'm not stopping you doing your experiment and tell us your findings ... the figure i've given is what i vaguely remember when we used our genset (6.5kVA Honda) long time ago

may point din kayo sir kinyo, actually i was able to check the specification of our gen set, since ang fuel consumption ng engine at 50% load is 3 li/hr, if i know the power rate from MERALCO, i might be able to come up with a figure that can better visualize the comparison... thanks

[CVT]

may point din kayo sir kinyo, actually i was able to check the specification of our gen set, since ang fuel consumption ng engine at 50% load is 3 li/hr, if i know the power rate from MERALCO, i might be able to come up with a figure that can better visualize the comparison... thanks

Just for comparison, during the last series of brownouts, I spent something like P300 per day sa gasolina ng 3KVA genset. The unit ran only for about 12 hours a day (during the night only) and only the following electrical items/appliances are turned on - refrigerator, lights, electric fans, tv set, motor pump.

So, this translates roughly to about P9000 per month, vs. my average electric bill of P5000 a month,- with 2 window-type ACs on during the night.


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[driven]

i tried computing for the actual power cost...

based on the last two months of our MERALCO bill, average power rate is around 10 pesos per kwh... kung baga i simply divide the total amount due by total kwh consumed...

then i computed the cost of diesel multiplied by diesel consumption of the engine per hr tapos divided by the power generated by unit (assuming 80% lang ang pwede gamitin dun sa total output)... power rate is roughly 12.50 pesos per kwh.

actually lumalabas talaga na mas mahal ang power generation ng gen set kaysa MERALCO, pero siguro the bigger your consumption, mas magiging matipid ang gen set eh, i heard from some institution na they are using gen set as their power source and they are enjoying quite big savings from it eh.

maximizing the power output of your gen set lang talaga siguro ang pinakamagandang way para sulit yung pagbayad sa fuel cost mo.

[userfriendly]

actually lumalabas talaga na mas mahal ang power generation ng gen set kaysa MERALCO, pero siguro the bigger your consumption, mas magiging matipid ang gen set eh, i heard from some institution na they are using gen set as their power source and they are enjoying quite big savings from it eh.

Using a diesel generator to produce electricity is really more expensive than getting power from the utility. Unless you have a low speed bunker fed generator similar to the ones used by power plants.

I work for a mall in the province. Our generators can provide all the power we need. However, it is still cheaper and less stressful to get power from the local electric cooperative.

To get the true cost of using a generator as the main source of electricity, you have to account for:
Fuel
Oil
Oil anf fuel filter (normally replaced at 250 or 500 running hours depending on brand of generator and model) air filter
Repairs for both engine and generator plus eventual overhaul
Operator - if any
Initial investment and depreciation
Interest expense if any
Stress, headache, unavailability of power in case it breaks down and you can't get power from the local utility

[fourtheboys96]

buhayin ko lang itong thread na ito. halos isang taon na nung mgatanong ako pero ndi pa din ako nakakabili. pero now i am thinking of buying coleman gen set.

main concern is yung noise. yung meron coleman genset baka meron kayo pwede masabi.

[chua_riwap]

Meron bang power gen. (portable) na "push button" lang ang pag-kick start instead of yung de baltak? Yun kasing cord na usually hinhatak pag iyi-start mo yung set, parang mapapatid pag napalakas yung hatak mo.

[Isuzoom]

yes meron yan electric starter ang tawag...tip ko lang sa coleman buyers...wag kayo bumila sa mall, bili kayo sa authorized dealers sa labas sobra laki ng price difference...

[chua_riwap]

Mga ilang watts or KVA kaya ang generator para mapatakbo, let's say

- an electric fan
- a couple of lamps (say 2-3 philips bulbs, basta may ilaw lang)
- 9 cu. ft. ref
- 21" TV
- or optional (3/4 HP AC)

Noon kasing post Milenyo, ilang araw walang ilaw sa amin. Wala kami generator. Pati pag-recharge ng cellphone, may bayad (neighbor namin may gen. set). Ang pamilya ko, parang bumalik sa pre-historic age. Wala lahat. Sa sobrang init, napilitan silang mag-check in sa 3 star hotel for a couple of days. Di sila makatulog, sa sobrang init!

[froshie1]

mag check in na lang kayo sa motel o 3 star hotel pag brown out hehehe. mas tipid maintenance free pa :D

[CVT]

Mga ilang watts or KVA kaya ang generator para mapatakbo, let's say

- an electric fan
- a couple of lamps (say 2-3 philips bulbs, basta may ilaw lang)
- 9 cu. ft. ref
- 21" TV
- or optional (3/4 HP AC)

Noon kasing post Milenyo, ilang araw walang ilaw sa amin. Wala kami generator. Pati pag-recharge ng cellphone, may bayad (neighbor namin may gen. set). Ang pamilya ko, parang bumalik sa pre-historic age. Wala lahat. Sa sobrang init, napilitan silang mag-check in sa 3 star hotel for a couple of days. Di sila makatulog, sa sobrang init!

A 3000VA (or 3KVA) power generator should be okay for this. However, when the (our 1HP) aircon compressor is running, the genset goes high rev to compensate. It is safe though since the genset normally has a built-in circuit breaker.

In my case, (since our genset has the same power output), we don't use the aircon, - just lights, TV, ref, electric fan, et al...

3202:rainbow:

[shadow]

anong kailangan kong bilhin para mapagawa yun MTS? san din bibili?