Generator sets

[Snowball0430]

Nagbago na isip namin, balak na lang namin bumili dito sa Pilipinas ng generator set, para mapakinabangan ang warranty.


Guys, ang silent type ba eh ilang decibels?


silent type na talaga bibilhin namin, budget is 60k. Need lang namin i power ang 3-4 electric fans, 3 Tv, and lights. Sa mga seller, please PM me. Thanks.

[12vdc]

Pretty much the same actually, on our part that is. The genset unit in our condo can power the common areas, elevators, water pumps, and for each unit a maximum of 3 CFL's, a fridge, and 2 electric fans. If you turn on a TV or aircon, a breaker switch will trip. You'd have to go down to maintenance and have it re-activiated again.

This is a DMCI condo, I hope it stays the same in the future. Laking ginhawa in times of crisis.

In my place there's this double pole double throw switch behind the cupboard to switch in the generator supply. What i did because its toomuch hassle to remove the cupboard, i wired a 1min timer then 2parallel 30A AC relay, instant ATS ako. I did this because may aquarium ako dati, naka UPS naman ang life support pero 40mins lang cutout na.. So now everytime na bumabagyo, i just watch people drenched in water and flood, no electricity, while i watch movies in cold aircon room..

[boybi]

In my place there's this double pole double throw switch behind the cupboard to switch in the generator supply. What i did because its toomuch hassle to remove the cupboard, i wired a 1min timer then 2parallel 30A AC relay, instant ATS ako. I did this because may aquarium ako dati, naka UPS naman ang life support pero 40mins lang cutout na.. So now everytime na bumabagyo, i just watch people drenched in water and flood, no electricity, while i watch movies in cold aircon room..

Pwede mahingi diagram and parts needed?

[jick.cejoco]

Descriptive diagram
There are three pairs terminals
Let's designate the left side LINE 1 and the right side LINE 2
The top two terminals connects to the municipal power
The middle two connects to your power distribution panel, this is the common pair
The bottom two connects to your back up power or generator. Don't forget the ground wire, this is for safety and to limit if not stop surges every time a considerable load turn on.


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[12vdc]

Pwede mahingi diagram and parts needed?

Can't draw it no visio in my device, i will just make quick preview.

Parts:

- DIN rail mini
- 40A CB for DIN rail mini
- Relay socket DIN rail mount 2pcs
- Relay 30A double/pole/throw contacts 220VAC or 12VDC coil
- Timer (you could make this on 555 oscillator 12V out or there are ready made ref timer at ACE/Handyman 220V out P120 if im not mistaken)
- Metal enclosure and appropriate gauge of wires


Re-wire the mains

-----|Panel|
MEC Mains --------/ |Board|
Relay--|Load |
-----|Distr |
Generetor out ----/ | |
-----| |
|
|

Timer

Principle:
- At Normal commercial power current pass thru the relay contacts A w/c is the normal de-energized position of the contacts
- During power outage and Generator kicks in, timer T sets a predetermined time (RC timer pls research on this na lang when using LM555 timer), output of this timer energize the relay coil which then throws the generator output to Relay contact B where the load(circuit breaker panel box) is connected.
- Wire the additional circuit breaker to the generator out as added safety.
- install the assembled DIN rail inside metal enclosure then mount it near the distribution box. You could be creative how to make the lights of timer and relay so that it would be visible behind the box for ease of inspection.

Hindi ko afford yung Square D na ATS, parang presyong generator na rin kaya improvise na lang adjustable pa ang delay time ng swingover.

[12vdc]

And yes, dont forget the earth ground, wire some with the enclosure. Even generetor sets have provision for grounding with the symbol E, Earth, GND,
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[boybi]

Manual pa rin ang pag ON ng generator?


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[12vdc]

In the house it is. In the farm since its a poultry its automated the contractor supplied everything. The building has ATS but broken, utility guy just switch it manually. Starter battery needs to be always on trickle charge to make it automatic, so maintaining an automised backup generator is not as easy as install and forget, you need to warm it up, simulate backup, check fuel gauge bat, etc.

[glenn manikis]

Remember the blackout in NYC? Can't run gensets, can't burn for heat(happened winter), how to get up and down to your unit floor and can't use candles and to include water pressure problems.;(


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Ang mamahal naman pala ng mga na yan.. we have 6.2kva gasoline Genset open type... 32k lang.. madami na din kami nabenta... so far isa palang nagka problema yung sa menor.. nag loose daw? Yung 3kva naman nasa 17k Lang...
Ayan lang 6.2kva.. ginamit namin sa office nung Glenda.. 7-8 hours continous namin ginagamit not more than50 percent load.. naka aircon.. etc. steady naman ang voltage nya... parang wala nga din ako napapancin na shock Load... according sa kinuhaan namin sa china.. matibay daw ito... and so far maganda ang feedback sa customers... maingay nga lang...

[glenn manikis]

Meron kami padating ilan piraso lang 5kva... diesel open type...

and were also considering Mag pasok ng quality and Modern design na portable diesel genset na super silent... ber months ko ipapasok...

[glenn manikis]

How much po ba yung ats na mahal kamo at ilan amperes? 220v or 440?

[shadow]

Ang mamahal naman pala ng mga na yan.. we have 6.2kva gasoline Genset open type... 32k lang.. madami na din kami nabenta... so far isa palang nagka problema yung sa menor.. nag loose daw? Yung 3kva naman nasa 17k Lang...
Ayan lang 6.2kva.. ginamit namin sa office nung Glenda.. 7-8 hours continous namin ginagamit not more than50 percent load.. naka aircon.. etc. steady naman ang voltage nya... parang wala nga din ako napapancin na shock Load... according sa kinuhaan namin sa china.. matibay daw ito... and so far maganda ang feedback sa customers... maingay nga lang...

Anong brand Sayo? Available din mga parts sainyo? May 5kva ka? How much? Post ka naman pic ng genset na benta mo?


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[uls]

brownout tapos low batt ang mga gadget? bad trip

bili na kasi ng genset

[12vdc]

How much po ba yung ats na mahal kamo at ilan amperes? 220v or 440?

Hundt & Weber ang orig motorized 220V 250A, supplier quoted me for SquareD contactor-type P30k plus 40k with install/warrantey.

Perkins has Telemecanique, i dunno the price never failed yet.

Maganda sana Telemecanique kaso under Sheinder Electric narin parang SquareD. Cant find Ferraz Shawmut supplier.

BTW the ATS i made is just for my room, in lieu of MTS na nasa cupboard

[joms]

Mga pre, where do you place your gensets sa bahay? Ive been reading on carbon monoxide poisoning kasi so pinag iisipan ko ngayon kung saan ang best place to put my genset. Maliit lang kasi yung house and wala naman kaming garden space or such. Pinagawan nyo ba ng housing yung genset nyo tapos nilagyan nyo ng exhaust fan with a tube going up ? Yun kasi iniisip ko para ibuga yung carbon monoxide pataas...

Any suggestions?

[Ry_Tower]

Mga pre, where do you place your gensets sa bahay? Ive been reading on carbon monoxide poisoning kasi so pinag iisipan ko ngayon kung saan ang best place to put my genset. Maliit lang kasi yung house and wala naman kaming garden space or such. Pinagawan nyo ba ng housing yung genset nyo tapos nilagyan nyo ng exhaust fan with a tube going up ? Yun kasi iniisip ko para ibuga yung carbon monoxide pataas...

Any suggestions?

Tama yan, may exhaust fan na kaagad para dun sa fumes. Hirap mag-suggest kung wala pics at lay-out eh. Maganda din well-ventilated genset para hindi mag-overheat.

[CVT]

Sa amin sa may veranda sa likod bahay...may bubong at well ventilated.....

[leinahtan]

Mga pre, where do you place your gensets sa bahay? Ive been reading on carbon monoxide poisoning kasi so pinag iisipan ko ngayon kung saan ang best place to put my genset. Maliit lang kasi yung house and wala naman kaming garden space or such. Pinagawan nyo ba ng housing yung genset nyo tapos nilagyan nyo ng exhaust fan with a tube going up ? Yun kasi iniisip ko para ibuga yung carbon monoxide pataas...

Any suggestions?

Sa akin di pa tapos yung housing ng genset. Panay kasi ulan kaya di ma-assemble yung mga panels supposedly sa open-air terrace. I plan to mount sa side ng housing a small exhaust fan power of which directly from the genset. On the opposite panel a louvre para well ventilated ito. For the genset exhaust, I plan to mount an extension tubing through a hole bore on the housing panel adjacent to the exhaust. The protruding pipe to be attached an elbow turned to point downwards, to prevent rainwater, dust, soot, insects etc. For the power cable, I will also bore a hole with a diameter same like a garden hose since I will be using an old garden hose to insulate the 10amp cables that will run through garage ceiling and finally to utility breakers. If you're short of space, and kung may garage ka at least, pwede mo ilagay doon yung genset. assemble the tubing for the exhaust long enough to provide you clean CO free environment. You can point the tube upwards, pero yung end should be turned somewhat downwards to avoid elements and precipitation. Good luck on your project.

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[shadow]

Sa akin di pa tapos yung housing ng genset. Panay kasi ulan kaya di ma-assemble yung mga panels supposedly sa open-air terrace. I plan to mount sa side ng housing a small exhaust fan power of which directly from the genset. On the opposite panel a louvre para well ventilated ito. For the genset exhaust, I plan to mount an extension tubing through a hole bore on the housing panel adjacent to the exhaust. The protruding pipe to be attached an elbow turned to point downwards, to prevent rainwater, dust, soot, insects etc. For the power cable, I will also bore a hole with a diameter same like a garden hose since I will be using an old garden hose to insulate the 10amp cables that will run through garage ceiling and finally to utility breakers. If you're short of space, and kung may garage ka at least, pwede mo ilagay doon yung genset. assemble the tubing for the exhaust long enough to provide you clean CO free environment. You can point the tube upwards, pero yung end should be turned somewhat downwards to avoid elements and precipitation. Good luck on your project.

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Anong gagamitin mo for extension ng exhaust? Dati ko pa iniisip pero gusto ko yun pwede tanggalin


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[leinahtan]

Anong gagamitin mo for extension ng exhaust? Dati ko pa iniisip pero gusto ko yun pwede tanggalin


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Marami akong scrap stainless steel tubing and galvanized pipes. Buti di ko naibenta, he he. I plan to use old leather belts to hold the extension tubes between the housing panel para di uminit yung panel.

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