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    #291
    [QUOTE=badkuk;2289796]Ang sabi kasi sa akin, most China gensets/engines, aluminum daw ang gamit sa motor windings vs. copper, which is bad..kaya umiiwas ako sa China made


    not true po... like cummins gensets, all units is in accordance with the global quality standard of cummins usa sir...

    you can even verify po sa cummins phils. kung original po yun... kung magkaron din ng mechanical problem yung engine... pwede din ang CUMMINS phils ang gumawa po nyan.. provided under warranty pa din yung unit na binile nyo...

    Even UK made PERKINS, German brand na duetz, US MADE CUMMINS, CATTERPILAR, pati mga german trucks and vehicles (MANUFACTURED by weichai) lahat po yan galing china din lang...

    maliban sa US MADE Cummins--- yung cylinder head and engine block manufactured talaga sa US.

    but everything else is made in china na, including the alternator or dynamo (heart of a generator)... the controller (brain)...

    According po sa mga technicians dun sa china... the difference between china made cummins and USA made cummins engine block and cylinder head is the metalurgy.. there's a 2% difference daw po... pero pag dating sa price double na agad ang price ng US made cummins...

    There was a time may nag order po samin ng noozle FOR 1000kva US MADE CUMMINS.... they gave us THE sample noozle... IT reads MADE IN USA... ang sabi po namin... meron kami nyan.. parehong pareho pati part no. etc... PERO managagaling pa ng CUMMINS china.. WE told them pareho lang ang gamit na noozle ng china made and us made cummins....

    ayaw nila maniwala na made in china din yun noozle na nakakabit sa genset nila at galing daw talaga ng U.S. YUN...

    sabi nila PAG U.S. made daw... dapat daw may made in usa na naka engrave...

    NUNG dumating na yung noozle... they compared the two... parehong pareho pati may markings din na made in USA....

    kami kasi sir.. honest seller kami.. kahit naka engrave pa na made in USA PA YAN.. kung sa china namin binile sasabihin talaga namin na made in china din yan... pero ang quality is in accordance with the global quality of cummins..

    YUNG mga generator naman na cummins na pumapalya malamang galing po sa mga gumagawa ng fake na cummins yun sa china... or galing INDIA... OR hindi maganda ang pagka recondition na Cummins po yun at ipinapasa as brand new... OR ppwede din Factory defect...

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    #292
    sir glenn, sent you PM...

    Eto na po ba yun?

    Yanma Machinery - Diesel Generators

    Grabe pala price diff ng China- and Japan-made...in some cases more than x3 for a 5-6.7kvA diesel unit


    btw, i did some reading on the copper vs aluminum winding thing...came across a paper that says aluminum it not necessarily inferior to copper, depende rin daw sa design ng motor to take advantage/adapt to aluminum windings.

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    #293
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    sir glenn, sent you PM...

    Eto na po ba yun?

    Yanma Machinery - Diesel Generators

    Grabe pala price diff ng China- and Japan-made...in some cases more than x3 for a 5-6.7kvA diesel unit


    btw, i did some reading on the copper vs aluminum winding thing...came across a paper that says aluminum it not necessarily inferior to copper, depende rin daw sa design ng motor to take advantage/adapt to aluminum windings.
    YANMA? nakita ko na din sa china yan... hindi ko lang pinapancin at hindi ganun kaganda ibenta dito at hindi naman REGULAR NA may bumibile nyan... at maliit lang ang kitaan dyan... mabenta lang yan pag may power crisis at BER months...

    ang mura lang nyan sa china...

    kung alam nyo lang... pag nalaman nyo price baka pati kayo ma enganyo mag invest dyan...

    meron pang tapat dyan daughter ko.. " Derek" china made pero ito usually ang rebrand or rebage ng ibang company tapos sasabihin nilang US OR JAPAN Brand... THEN jack up nila ng 2-3X ang price... actually rebrand din namin ito...

    to be honest hindi pa namin personally subok itong generator na ito... ang balak ko dito gamitin namin ng continues for 2 weeks on prime power... or hangang tumirik...

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    #294
    sorry sir, akala ko nagcacarry kayo ng Yanma :p i think it's a play on the Yanmar brand. Nung niresearch ko, the engine models they use for their generators match those of earlier(80's) Yanmar engines. Dunno if they licensed the technology or "adopted" it <wink wink nudge nudge>.

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    #295
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    yanma...

    my daughter have small units gas fed... 1kva, 1.5kva, 2.5kva, 3.8kva, 4kva, 7.5kva... according to my chinese friends Matibay daw same quality....

    sobrang dami nilang stock nyan... as-in.....

    mag open ang anak ko ng shop sa may Quezon ave. middle of march sila mag start... malapit lapit sa lahat...
    sir glenn..san po sa Q.A. mag open daughter nyo?

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    #296
    new arrival from japan -- 400kva nippon sharyo genset

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    #297
    How much are 10 KVA & 20 KVA gas and diesel generators? If used 2-4 hours per day for a month or two, would a diesel generator still be worth it's price over a gasoline one?

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    #298
    Quote Originally Posted by skyflakes View Post
    sir glenn..san po sa Q.A. mag open daughter nyo?
    Quezon ave. near corner araneta... DUNAMIS Power

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    #299
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    How much are 10 KVA & 20 KVA gas and diesel generators? If used 2-4 hours per day for a month or two, would a diesel generator still be worth it's price over a gasoline one?
    pag ganyan rating sir.. usually puro diesel engines na po yan...

    mas matibay po d-hamak ang diesel engines compare mo sa gas fed gensets...

    ano po ba ang pag gagamitan ng gensets nyo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    How much are 10 KVA & 20 KVA gas and diesel generators? If used 2-4 hours per day for a month or two, would a diesel generator still be worth it's price over a gasoline one?
    pag ganyan rating sir.. usually puro diesel engines na po yan...

    mas matibay po d-hamak ang diesel engines compare mo sa gas fed gensets...

    ano po ba ang pag gagamitan ng gensets nyo?

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