Uls, gaano kahaba pwede sagad feeder line for 5kva-7kva na genset?
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July 20th, 2014 06:54 PM #421
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July 20th, 2014 08:50 PM #423Walandyo, para raw mani kung ibenta mga gensets sa Ace HW right after the storm day...
Just this afternoon, I was following a taxi with a genset loaded in its trunk (cover was lifted open)....
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July 20th, 2014 09:14 PM #424Thanks! Pwede ako Mag extend. Thank you! Wala mababawas sa kuryente na Galing sa gender pag ganyan kahaba? Saka nga pala ano pwede pang extend ng exhaust. Kasi pag umuulan sa garage ko nilalagay pero natatakot ako mamatay aso ko dahil doon din siya nakalagay pag may bagyo
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#retzingLast edited by shadow; July 20th, 2014 at 09:18 PM.
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July 20th, 2014 09:29 PM #425shadow depende sa kapal ng wire
di pwede less than gauge 10 for 50 ft
acceptable ang voltage drop for that length
extend exhaust? weld an extension pipe or gawa ka ng piping na abang kung saan mo pinupwesto ang genset at doon mo ipasok ang exhaust pipe ng gensetLast edited by uls; July 20th, 2014 at 09:39 PM.
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July 20th, 2014 10:41 PM #428IMO parang car din yan.. mas maganda kung bago at modelo... lesser ang sakit ng ulo nyo... tapos same price naman... Originally Posted by Walter
compare nyo nalang ang 10 year old car sa branded na bago pa at mas modelo... syempre iba na yung mas bago at modelo AT DAPAT MERON pangalan like cummins, deutz or perkins... kung china naman weichai ang matibay....
Denyo matibay naman po talaga yan.. pero syempre tyempohan din po yan pag nakuha nyo eh more than 10 years old na or mahaba na running hours... hindi na din po tatagal ang engine and dynamo nun... bumababa ang rating ng gensets pag luma na.. and besides napakamahal ng parts ng denyo at mahirap pang hanapin....
if you are buying talaga a 2nd hand genset... it is a must to ask for a load bank or a dummy load... dapat kaya at least 90-100% ng kanyang load rating, like for ex. 100kva denyo genset.. dapat kaya nito tumakbo at least 90-100kva na hindi po nag ooverheat...
Ang problema lang meron lumalabas na mga fake na Cummins and weichai gensets... pati dynamo fake din... ang pinakamadaming lumabas na fake na dynamo is stamford... ang wala pang fake na lumabas na dynamo is Marathon... (Kaya sa trusted sellers lang po kayo bibile)
pag dating sa gensets.. deutz nalang ang walang fake na lumalabas....
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July 20th, 2014 10:45 PM #429para hindi magka voltage drop.. dapat mas makapal na wire ang gamitin... hindi ko nga lang alam ang computation dyan para hindi magkaron ng voltage drop... Originally Posted by uls
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July 20th, 2014 10:54 PM #430Mga pre/sir/boss/etc,
Wala bang makaka tulong sa akin? sensya na at medyo madami akong tanonsg sa post ko. kung kaya nyo sagutin kahit na ilan sa mga tanong, pa sagot naman. Mas confident kasi ako sa inyo as i've back read, you guys know what you are talking about. Sana matulungan nyo din ako. Salamat
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July 20th, 2014 11:14 PM #431Resistance is equal to rho x length divided by area....
Rho is the resistivity and is dependent on the material. The higher the rho, the higher the resistance (the lower the conductivity), the higher the voltage drop.
The bigger the cross section area or "size" of the wire (the lower the gauge) the lower the resistance, the lower the voltage drop....
The longer the wire, the higher the resistance, the higher the voltage drop...Last edited by CVT; July 20th, 2014 at 11:16 PM.
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July 21st, 2014 08:41 AM #432Meron bang LPG run portable genset kahit mga 5Kva lang? Advantage? Disadvantage?
Nag text kasi bro in law ko bibigyan ako ng LPG fed genset, hinde ko alam brand 5kva. One time lang nila nagamit, pero na repair na daw dahil nastuck up siya. Papakuha ko na lang sa bahay nila, eh kung bulok huwag na lang dagdag basura pa sa bahay...dahil bumili na sila ng 10kva yata...kung ok LPG fed na genset papakuha ko sa weekend para 2 na genset sa bahay, pwede isa sa umaga isa pang gabi...
Nadala na ako diyan eh, binigyan din ako ng beagle pup dati, kunin ko daw sa bahay nila, ako naman pumunta nagdala pa ako ng crate, walngdyo ang pangit nun beagle, hinde ko kinuha...lagi kasi nagpapauto sa tiendesitas na mga pet shops, walang kadala-dala..lahat ng biniling aso doon kung hinde may sakit eh ang pangit naman..
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July 21st, 2014 11:19 AM #433Bro.,- huwag mo nang kunin ang LPG-fed na genset,- komplikasyon lang iyan... Originally Posted by shadow
Tsaka,- hindi ka naman siguro tatakbo ng 24 hours for x days. Mga kasama mo lang sa bahay makikinabang diyan sa umaga.
May tubig ka naman kahit walang kuryente di ba? That is already 50% of your requirements.
Sa umaga,- punta ka na lang ng mall...
Iyon namang nasa ref,- hindi basta basta mag-thaw in 12 hours or so.
Tiendesitas at aso?,- may sakit din ang aso na nabili riyan ng hipag ko,- ayun namatay lang... Hugas kamay ang nagbenta....Bad trip iyang mga tindahan diyan....
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July 21st, 2014 11:50 AM #434yup, hinde kami nawalan ng water last week Originally Posted by CVT
Bro.,- huwag mo nang kunin ang LPG-fed na genset,- komplikasyon lang iyan...
Tsaka,- hindi ka naman siguro tatakbo ng 24 hours for x days. Mga kasama mo lang sa bahay makikinabang diyan sa umaga.
May tubig ka naman kahit walang kuryente di ba? That is already 50% of your requirements.
Sa umaga,- punta ka na lang ng mall...
Iyon namang nasa ref,- hindi basta basta mag-thaw in 12 hours or so.
Tiendesitas at aso?,- may sakit din ang aso na nabili riyan ng hipag ko,- ayun namatay lang... Hugas kamay ang nagbenta....Bad trip iyang mga tindahan diyan....
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bakit complication ang LPG fed genset? yun LPG tank ba sa bahay ang gamit? pwede siguro for emergency dahil last week grabe pila sa mga gasoline station... actually kanina ko lang nalaman meron palang LPG na genset...
tiendesitas kasi malapit sa kanila tiga valle kasi kaya doon laging bumibili ng mga tuta, walang pang umabot ng 1 year..ganado na nga ko sa chow chow pup eh...dahil humingi na ako ng isa pag pina stud nila eh wala pang 6 months namatay na agad,..
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July 21st, 2014 12:55 PM #435i'd certainly appreciate the cleaner exhaust from an LPG-fed genset, but in times of really dire emergencies, you may have trouble looking for LPG, whereas gasoline and diesel should be more available...heck, push comes to shove you can make ethanol/biodiesel; methane pwedeng DIY, but LPG?
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July 21st, 2014 01:13 PM #436Have you guys heard anything about Promate Generators? Any feedback? I've just spoken to them and mukhang ok naman sila. Yun nga lang China yung Promate but they said, mahusay na China naman sila. Parts are readily available. Yung Honda generators yata mahirap hanapin yung parts if ever diba?
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July 21st, 2014 01:15 PM #437Our Yanmar powered 4.5 kva surplus genset proved its worth. My main concern was food spoilage (kaka-grocery lang namin). And it was able to take up the job on powering a ref, a couple of electric fans, my aquarium pump (
), indoor and perimeter lighting.
I will add another similar sized or bigger unit.
On the flip side, I had the chance to inquire at a Handyman store about their gensets, the guy told me that the day after the storm, lahat na gensets nila pinakyaw, mapa gas or diesel. Laki pa naman mark-up ng mga hardware na yan.Last edited by lowslowbenz; July 21st, 2014 at 01:18 PM.
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July 21st, 2014 05:19 PM #439Kapag sinipat ko ang Honda at Promate generators,- parang magkapatid e..... Originally Posted by joms
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July 21st, 2014 07:54 PM #440CLAVEL - what happened sa after sales service nila? Mabagal?
CVT - pre what does "sinipat" mean and what do you mean na parang magkapatid sila?
How about ELEMAX (powered by Honda), any feedback? Right now I'm looking into getting their Elemax SH7600EXS which runs around P70k (6.5kvA nominal / 7.6kvA max). This any good?
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