The Eagle Will Not Fly Without the Poor

[margaux]

Our leaders have done a great job of scaring away capital. So we are left with inspirational speeches and charity.

And I think this may have something to do with the attitude of the people as well. Okay, there is nothing wrong with helping those who are in need but it is not enough for them and they keep on asking for more help, yet, they are not doing anything for their own live's improvement. Somehow, when we offer charity, it's already fixed n their minds that somebody out there will provide help for them. Yeah, it's true that we feel so sorry for the poor people out there but if it's always like this,wherein they would depend on other people's kind heart, there will be no improvement at all for a country with a high percentage of poverty.

OT: this thread just reminds me of Bob Ong's "Bakit Baligtad Magbasa Ang Mga Pilipino?"

[mazdamazda]

the big/multinational companies need the poor coz thats the market for their consumer products.

Now that's a very generalized statement.

but these corporate outreach campaigns are simply a collection of human beings just like you and me that are giving back to the community with the support of their corporation

I guess somebody forgot that these "evil corporations" are composed of people.

[uls]

Now that's a very generalized statement.

I guess somebody forgot that these "evil corporations" are composed of people.

Please name a business, any business, that doesnt need the masses.

Please look at my posts. I never used the word "evil".

[prinsipe]

my only point why I post the speeches is to inspire/encourage others to help the poor. if you are not inspired/encourage to help then don't help, just sit down, be cynical(believing the worst of human nature and motives; having a sneering disbelief in e.g. selflessness of others) all you want. You can look at Mr. Dylan Wilk (son-in-law of Mr. Meloto)who left his country England, his family and friends, his extravagant lifestyle - his Ferrari, his Porsche and BMW... in exchange for the poor families in this country that he has learned to love and care for, and still be cynical.

http://www.planetphilippines.com/arc.../feature2.html

Mr. Meloto also mentioned - "Change will not come easy, that’s why we need to encourage and we need to honor all the good examples around us. We need to invite everyone to come on board. Poverty is so massive that our response to it cannot be small. We cannot rebuild this country if we do not engage every sector of society including government. It is counter-productive to judge all government officials as corrupt. In dealing with dishonest men, just be honest. We cannot change people if we make them our enemies. Engage them and bring out the best in them.

While many are accustomed to the path of blame, we have to discover a new path, build a new culture of honoring those who do good."

[empy]

Please name a business, any business, that doesnt need the masses.

Please look at my posts. I never used the word "evil".

no, "evil" was an exaggeration i used for effect. but don't deny that you're the one trying to malign the intentions of people in corporations who do charitable works, and imply that the reason for all these are full of ulterior motives. that implication is baseless, unfair, and offensive.

of course people or companies will take care of themselves, their families, and their dreams/aspirations first before they give of themselves to others. most charities are more than happy to accept whatever a person or company feels is within their means to give.

you're the only one who is so unreasonable as to expect that one should give EVERYTHING they have. let me repeat my question from the last post: have you done this? or do you just like to talk out of your ass?

prinsipe: "having a sneering disbelief" - very eloquently put. describes the situation perfectly

[uls]

Our people have gone down to a level where we have to honor those who do good (or the right thing).

A cab driver who returned money his passenger left in the cab. A little girl who turned over a backpack full of money someone dropped. They were rewarded handsomely.

Is doing the right thing so rare nowadays that things like that call for a celebration and reward-giving?

Is doing the wrong thing the standard these days? that we have to broadcast over the evening news that doing the right thing has its rewards?

So now we actually have to encourage our people to do the right thing? Isnt doing the right thing the default thing to do?

Our country has no shortage of inspirational messages. We have priests and churches everywhere. We have religious tv shows everyday.

Man cannot live on bread alone. That is if u dont have any problem obtaining bread...then u can set ur mind to more spiritual pursuits. But if ur daily existence is concerned with obtaining bread, inspirational messages sound like background noise.

Our country has a shortage of capital. We need to attract capital. Just like what China and India are doing so well.

Then when ur citizens are not occupied with obtaining their daily bread, inspirational messages will begin to sound like inspirational messages.

[the_wildthing]

There are three groups of people. Those who make things happen, those who watch things happen, and those who ask, "what happened?"

I hope we're all "making things happen."

We can't all sit around and complain and not do anything about it.

[chairman]

Uls, one of a the active members of Gawad Kalinga did that. Think his name is Dylan Wilks, he was one of Britain's richest men and he gave away everything. Sold his company, cars and gave up his position of power, so that he could help the poor. It all started by selling his BMW and giving the money to GK. It made him truly happy and the rest is history. Hope this story convinces you that there is still some good in this world.

this one is true. I can personally atest to that. I know Dylan Wilk. He's a personal friend of mine. He sold his BMW and donated all the proceeds to put up a village in Bulacan. It's called the BMW M3 village now if I'm not mistaken. He also now lives a very simple life. Sometimes he even takes the bus and taxi here. He doesn't have a car here. From multimillionaire to now just a simple person. Not because he lost it all but because he gave it all up.

Dylan is also now the son-in-law of Tony Meloto who is the executive director of GK. T.M. also gave up his corporate life for GK. Now living simply. So literally they both are walking the walk and talking the talk.

It's hard to base your opinions by the virtue of the speech. If you get to know these people then you'll probably change your minds.

I'm saddened by the fact that a lot of people instead of supporting or helping cast a shadow of doubt at the intentions of others. In all honesty, I really don't care if may motive yung ibang company. If it helps assure their market, i really don't give a rat's ass. All i care about is that people are being helped. There are people here in our country who have new homes and better living conditions.

As for those who say that indirectly big businesses rely on the poor. Maybe here but in 1st world countries not so much. They rely on masses sure but that doesn't mean poor ang masses.

We can go on and on about this.. The simple fact is, it's bad enough to just sit on the sidelines while others are doing something for the country and their fellow men. What's worse is sitting on the sideline and criticizing those who help.

[the_wildthing]

Please name a business, any business, that doesnt need the masses.

Any business? Let's see now...

The business of selling paintings.

The business of owning patents.

The business of lending to the rich gamblers.



Sorry bro, can't help it. Peace.

[Alpha_One]

Our people have gone down to a level where we have to honor those who do good (or the right thing).

A cab driver who returned money his passenger left in the cab. A little girl who turned over a backpack full of money someone dropped. They were rewarded handsomely.

Is doing the right thing so rare nowadays that things like that call for a celebration and reward-giving?

Is doing the wrong thing the standard these days? that we have to broadcast over the evening news that doing the right thing has its rewards?

So now we actually have to encourage our people to do the right thing? Isnt doing the right thing the default thing to do?

Our country has no shortage of inspirational messages. We have priests and churches everywhere. We have religious tv shows everyday.

Man cannot live on bread alone. That is if u dont have any problem obtaining bread...then u can set ur mind to more spiritual pursuits. But if ur daily existence is concerned with obtaining bread, inspirational messages sound like background noise.

Our country has a shortage of capital. We need to attract capital. Just like what China and India are doing so well.

Then when ur citizens are not occupied with obtaining their daily bread, inspirational messages will begin to sound like inspirational messages.

Doing the "right thing" isn't rare. Doing the "right thing" is the default thing to do. You don't seem to recognise the good things, because by default, what is done are the "good things".

Of course, average people returning big ass packs of cash are all over the news because it's so media friendly. But you never see anyone on the news who returned a wallet containing a social security ID - exactly what a multicab driver did when he saw my grandmother's wallet in the back of his vehicle. (Grandma's wallet got snatched, the thief probably left it in the back of a truck)

On TV, you don't see:

-Drivers giving way to people coming out of their parking spaces.

-Commuters teaching first-timers how to operate the LRT2 vending machine.

-Good samaritans helping a motorist who's car broke down.

-People paying correct taxes (unless they're politicos or celebs).

-People paying correct amounts.

-People doing their work.

-Etc.

Hell, doing good is sooooooooooo trivial nobody gives any special attention to it.

The world is still >90% good, but not to many people realise that. Thank God.