Does school really matter?

[nissde]

Good to know if nabibigyan na nga ng chance. Noong nasa pinas pa kasi ko may mga kaibigan ako mula sa mga unibersidad na ito. Mismong mga Company ang pumupunta for Job Fairs some of them actually are hired even before they graduate.

Galing po ako sa pamantasan ni isang company wala kong nabalitaan nagpunta sa school for Job Fair. Ito ay mga isang dekada na ang nakaraan.

[lowslowbenz]

Galing po ako sa pamantasan

Pamantasan ng Maynila?

That's a good school.

[minicarph]

kids being told they can conquer the world, be the next Zuckerberg

they walk around feeling like the world owes them something

then reality hits them

yeah!, yun mga nauuso ngaun sa mga coffee shop, restaurants and even sa office. ano term dun communal workplace, communal table whatever. pautot yan ng mga Atenean think tanks na nag-de-design ng mga stores ngaun. when you hear communal and it suggests sharing of spaces, tables, sofas or even shower or CR, parang ang sarap pakinggan diba, kasi share share, hindi nag-waste ng resources.

but what is really communal? from the word communism. ano communism lahat ng bagay pag-aari ng gobyerno share share kayo ng maduming cr, maduming kainan, books whatever. kita mo how these Atenean think tanks brainwash us, suddenly communist ideals are good and refreshing. We should know better! sarap sarap ng privacy ng sarile mo table, saka dalawang CR for genders.

inintroduce nila communal, para makatitipid sila sa mga maintenance ng mga establishments nila. meron pa isa nagpauso ngaun, yun walang plastic bag saka walang straw pag friday for nature daw. mga sira-ulo sinong niloloko nyo?

[jut703]

Not anymore. My wife leads a head-hunting agency, and one of her gripes is that graduates from the top schools mentioned, do not stay long in a specific position. Lipat ng lipat, tapos puro pa reklamo.

Ngayon, she's opening her doors to "other" schools. Most of the time, she gets quality candidates. And when endorsed to clients, come back with positive results.

Depends on the company bro. 3 out of the last 4 companies I've worked with, big majority pa rin are from the top 3 schools. In all 4, the top management almost exclusively comes from the top 3.

If anything, my current company which is most notorious for not even entertaining resumes of non-top universities started hiring a few grads from less renowned universities. Thing is, these grads are also TOSP awardees so it's still not a free-for-all thing.

Good to know if nabibigyan na nga ng chance. Noong nasa pinas pa kasi ko may mga kaibigan ako mula sa mga unibersidad na ito. Mismong mga Company ang pumupunta for Job Fairs some of them actually are hired even before they graduate.

Galing po ako sa pamantasan ni isang company wala kong nabalitaan nagpunta sa school for Job Fair. Ito ay mga isang dekada na ang nakaraan.

Nandun pa rin yung mga job fairs and may mga nahihire pa rin before they even graduate.

A good education really helps you start off at a higher rung in the corporate ladder. However, if you are driven, competent, and have a good attitude, you will most likely climb faster than others, regardless of where you graduated from.

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[chronicle]

Being rejected 50 times and not learn from that. There is something wrong with that guy.

[lowslowbenz]

^^

OB, which brand is it again?

Baygon?

or

Lion-Tiger?

[MR_BIG18]

I get the guy's frustrations - like him I was a scholar who needed a well-paying job more than my well-to-do batchmates. However, just because you needed it more doesn't mean a good life gets handed to you on a silver platter.

For me, the main issue is that he has too much entitlement and too little grit.

Much of what I want to say has been discussed in detail in the comment thread of that post. Hopefully the OP takes the well-meaning comments positively and comes out of this ordeal a better, more employable person with a less entitled outlook in life.

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i used to have plenty of scholars before, they didnt seem to have those problems

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[lowslowbenz]

Depends on the company bro. 3 out of the last 4 companies I've worked with, big majority pa rin are from the top 3 schools. In all 4, the top management almost exclusively comes from the top 3.

Yes, there are companies that are almost "Hitler" like in requesting for top 3 school candidates. Until their HR department gives up on the high turn over.

That's when she (my wife) suggests a candidate from a "lower" school.

But meron talaga engot companies na maka-demand sa qualification ng candidate con-todo, tapos ang starting salary is 25K.

LOL.

[dreamur]

Agree. Too much self entitlement. We recently had a job fair at UP and we were looking for interns without telling them that we offer minimum pay even for internship. Aba, ayaw ng mga damuho kesyo daw hindi Big 4 ung company namin, parents daw required na dapat Makati based or malayo daw sa bahay nila at ayaw mag-commute. Oh well, kumuha kami ng PUP and TUP at sa awa ng diyos na regular naman at may signing bonus pa.

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[Bin Diesel]

Not anymore. My wife leads a head-hunting agency, and one of her gripes is that graduates from the top schools mentioned, do not stay long in a specific position. Lipat ng lipat, tapos puro pa reklamo.

Ngayon, she's opening her doors to "other" schools. Most of the time, she gets quality candidates. And when endorsed to clients, come back with positive results.

In some ways yeah. I've interviewed some people lately for an opening in our group, and yung mga napili ko are from PUP and Letran. Merong taga Ateneo and La Salle pero merong something sa ugali nila nung time na kausap ko sila. Parang iiwan ka sa ere kapag naging stressful na ang work. Pero baka sa mga nainterview ko lang naman.

[ice15]

Yes, it matters...

Alumni will always take care of their own.

I'm not saying its a must, iba pa rin ang good old fashioned har work. Pero may advantage ka palagi kapag galing ka sa specific school.

Personal Experience:

Company A - guys from Top 4 schools received higher starting salary
Company B - Admin and support were ALL from an exclusive girls school, Law/Insurance Dept are ALL from Ateneo and San Beda, Operations - Top 4 Univ were preferred

Even now that I'm overseas... Grads from reputable schools have no issues in getting their employment pass. Those from the provinces, minsan renewal na lang nag kaka issue pa.

[minicarph]

ako na determine ko kung galing sa medicore schools vs sa top schools, pag malakas sila magsalita sa hallway, sa corridors, na para bang mga binge kung magusap, saka yun mga kumakanta sa CR and the same corridors, sigurado yan galing sa mga lesser schools. finesse kasi ang mga tao galing sa top schools eh, kaya lang matitinde naman yan sa pang-iisa.

kaya hayun pag may nakita ka babae ang lakas magsalita pero ***y, wag mo na aspire-in asawahin yun, one night stand na lang, kung hinde pang - inasawa mo yun sira buhay mo. ang sarap kaya pag ang gf or wife mo eh may class

[EQAddict]

Ive been interviewing exclusively (for non specialist jobs) from Ateneo lately. Shrug. Im very realistic about these things. Im not too concerned if they stay 2 years or ten years. I am more concerned if they can do the job, be a self starter, speak and carry themselves exceptionally, not be pigeon-holed into a role, make kick ass presentations and most of all: not get intimidated by more senior pricks and drama queens in the office.

I find that the "speaking" part and the swagger part is very hard to teach. Ateneans are very good in bull shitting their way out of a mess. And since headcount is a rare and precious commodity nowadays, i make sure that not only can they do the job well, but they might as well make me look good while they do it. My team is a reflection of me. Such is office politics and life climbing up the corp ladder.

So yeah it matters especially for generic jobs such as marketing or sales or business development.

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[Jun aka Pekto]

I still remember that old lady (back in Upstate New York) who recently immigrated from the PH. The very first thing she asked me was what college I graduated from. She didn't ask my name, how I was doing, how is the weather..... I told her, "I attained my degree from _____ State University and I'm currently working on my second degree."

Looking at me and my current coworkers..... We come from a variety of colleges and universities. I moved around a lot. The bulk of my education consisted of courses from four or five different institutions plus the one where I was awarded my degree. But, we all have one thing in common. All of us have extensive job experience with military weather (aviation or ground support).

As for the top institutions from the PH..... I can't speak for other countries or organizations. But, it's meaningless in my field. We look more at the actual content of the resume and see if it satisfies what we're looking for.

One constant is real-world experience has a much higher priority than college credentials.

[Yuesford]

Belongs to a school that asks for 120k+ yearly. And no, it doesn't matter. Mostly ha, swertehan nalang yan kung natipuhan ka ng HR.


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[MrDeckard]

I think good schools gets you in the door faster, after that innate talent and skill and attitude will see you through.


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[greenlyt]

yep it matters
my son have a job waiting for him after he graduates
may 3 offers pa from other companies

[CVT]

yep it matters
my son have a job waiting for him after he graduates
may 3 offers pa from other companies

It is good to hear that bro.

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[vinj]

yep it matters
my son have a job waiting for him after he graduates
may 3 offers pa from other companies

Good to hear.

Mana sa Tatay. Ma-abilidad.

[greenlyt]

It is good to hear that bro.

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Good to hear.

Mana sa Tatay. Ma-abilidad.

may added incentive pa yan, may driver na ko pag pasok


BTW long time no hear papa Vinj