Does school really matter?

[viper888]

Some people take masters just for the heck of it.

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Its a "vacation" for some haha
Like those who take fashion design or interior design... And then realize its hard


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[Walter]

One of the important things one gets from going to a good school is the people you meet to expand your network. As they say, it's not what you know, it's who you know.

[c_cube]

One of the important things one gets from going to a good school is the people you meet to expand your network. As they say, it's not what you know, it's who you know.

Totoo ito, dami kong kilala na ganito. Para daw sa continuity ng biz nila at para sa connections.

AT para daw sa babae nilang anak, para galing sa mayaman na pamilya ang mapangasawa. Ayaw lumabas ang kayamanan

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[jon777]

No. My point was that most of what you will learn in an MBA will be redundant if you graduated with a business degree from the same university.

There are several forumers here with Ateneo MBAs. Heads of companies. Are you saying they're poor managers?


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I was just joking about Ateneo MBA since I am a grad from "that" school from Taft ave. i hope you read my whole post and the words "he he he" which connotes a muffled laughter suggesting a sneaky and non serious aspect to that being laughed at.....

I am either a co-managing director or managing director among our family businesses, i would not mind hiring an ateneo mba. I know for sure that several friends of mine who are fellow lasallians with their own businesses who would never hire ateneans but not me. i think that is insane and they are depriving their companies of good candidates for employment.....

[bloowolf]

I was just joking about Ateneo MBA since I am a grad from "that" school from Taft ave. i hope you read my whole post and the words "he he he" which connotes a muffled laughter suggesting a sneaky and non serious aspect to that being laughed at.....

I am either a co-managing director or managing director among our family businesses, i would not mind hiring an ateneo mba. I know for sure that several friends of mine who are fellow lasallians with their own businesses who would never hire ateneans but not me. i think that is insane and they are depriving their companies of good candidates for employment.....

The rivalry between Ateneo vs La Salle extends beyond the school wall. I know of of a friend whose subordinate graduated from the other school. He was saying that that person would not follow deadlines & would always have a different opinion from him. It got to the point that it became very disruptive. There is nothing wrong with being loyal to your school but don't be a fanatic. There is no room for it in the workplace. I am not referring to you Jon777, but to those fanatics, I say "GROW UP"

[_Cathy_]

It's mostly those that only went to college that are fanatics. I've never met an Atenean or Lasallite (from gs/hs) that's into the rivalry. The same with Assumption vs St Scho.

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[jut703]

It's mostly those that only went to college that are fanatics. I've never met an Atenean or Lasallite (from gs/hs) that's into the rivalry. The same with Assumption vs St Scho.

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Only college matters if you ask me. Kung nakapasok ka AGS/AHS, it just means you have rich parents. If you got in ADMU (or DLSU), it means you're competent enough yourself (though of course, the moneyed are always at an advantage).


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[bloowolf]

It's mostly those that only went to college that are fanatics. I've never met an Atenean or Lasallite (from gs/hs) that's into the rivalry. The same with Assumption vs St Scho.

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Not entirely true.... I went to LSGH for gs & hs but to another University for College (course wasn't offered in either school). There are some batchmates who attended DLSU that are fanatics (or so it seems to me) & my hair stands up on ends whenevrer I hear them talk. I got invited for dinner with a bunch of Ateneans & there was this guy in particular (ADMU for gs & hs, UST for College) who was bashing Lasallians, oblivious of the fact that there was a Lasallian on the table. Kaya rin nagagalit ang mga taga ibang eskwela sa mga taga lasalle at ateneo dahil OA masyado. Don't get me wrong, I am proud of my school. The fact that I attended it gives me that confidence & I know that it projects, but I don't go around with the attitude. So, yeah. The school you graduated from matters a lot. You just can't go around bringing the attitude with you all the time.

[dreamur]

I graduated from a university in Cebu (Univ of San Carlos) so I cannot comment on the rivalry though my son is enrolled in La Salle and my daughter in FEU. My company does not discriminate when hiring accountants and engineers as long as they pass the interview and the written exams but mostly those who got promoted have common attitudes - dedicated, patient, top performers yet down to earth and most of all adaptable to change. These are the people who do not complain right away when you change a process, challenge their ways of working and assign them new tasks on top of their current responsibilities. They do not mind when they work above and beyond or you call them during weekends or when they are on personal leave.

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[bloowolf]

Di ako hiningan ng transcript nor diploma sa interview ko. All I showed them was my one-page resume.

It's not the grades alone - that only comprises 1 line in your resume. A lot of my batchmates na super taas ng grades, so-so lang trabaho. Talo sila ng mga batchmate ko na steady yung grades pero backed by org involvement, competitions, and good communication skills.



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Sorry for the very late response to this post. What you may be referring to here is the Intelligence Quotient (IQ) & the Emotional Quotient (EQ). I had a HS batchmate who was the class valedictorian & student council president, headed numerous organizations in our HS but he kept mostly to himself (if you ask me, the apt description is, he is "boring"). Last I heard, he never got married, no kids & was just content managing their so-so family business. Two other batchmates who were also very bright, sociable & were athletes in the school became very successful. One is now the CEO of Globe, the other became the President of IBM Philippines. There should be a balance of the IQ & EQ.

[vinj]

Only college matters if you ask me. Kung nakapasok ka AGS/AHS, it just means you have rich parents. If you got in ADMU (or DLSU), it means you're competent enough yourself (though of course, the moneyed are always at an advantage).


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Majority of students in LSGH or AGS are from the middle/upper middle class really (rather than the politico or Taipan uber rich). The exceedingly rich ones possibly send their kids to International schools and have them study abroad later on. Also, during my time the really rich classmates i had were the most unassuming and down-to-earth guys.

Going back to the topic, when it comes to values formation and discipline, the elementary and high school plays a big factor.

As for college, it gives you the needed skills and mindset to face the world and helps you get your first job perhaps but after that, it's up to you to succeed. This is where the values formation, mindset and ethics that you garnered through your formative years come into play.

Re. the rivalry, yes there is bashing which is normal and done in good humor most of the time and all. The ones I know who take it personally are more often the types that C4U described, or the really old alumni whobused to get into fist fights and brawls before, during and after the game. I'm from the blue school and a lot of my closest friends are from the green side (and UST).

[viper888]

Normally admu and dlsu graduates are good with each other, until UAAP season. However many employers will pick the graduate from their own school if all else are equal.


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[jon777]

Only college matters if you ask me. Kung nakapasok ka AGS/AHS, it just means you have rich parents. If you got in ADMU (or DLSU), it means you're competent enough yourself (though of course, the moneyed are always at an advantage).
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yup, where one went to college is the only thing that matters especially when one is looking for his first job. my son studies at AGS and I resent it and has been often times the cause of friction between me and my wife. I wanted him to study in a chinese school where networking starts early in life aside from the fact that tuition fees is half of AGS's....

oh well....

[Walter]

Wow, you guys are old ...

[jut703]

Majority of students in LSGH or AGS are from the middle/upper middle class really (rather than the politico or Taipan uber rich). The exceedingly rich ones possibly send their kids to International schools and have them study abroad later on. Also, during my time the really rich classmates i had were the most unassuming and down-to-earth guys.

Going back to the topic, when it comes to values formation and discipline, the elementary and high school plays a big factor.

As for college, it gives you the needed skills and mindset to face the world and helps you get your first job perhaps but after that, it's up to you to succeed. This is where the values formation, mindset and ethics that you garnered through your formative years come into play.

Re. the rivalry, yes there is bashing which is normal and done in good humor most of the time and all. The ones I know who take it personally are more often the types that C4U described, or the really old alumni whobused to get into fist fights and brawls before, during and after the game. I'm from the blue school and a lot of my closest friends are from the green side (and UST).

Sorry I wasn't very clear on my previous post. In the context employment after graduation, it's really the collegiate level that matters. In my experience, very little attention was given to where I graduated high school. Most top multinationals will care more about a guy who graduated from the top universities even if they came from no-name high schools, than a guy who came from one of the top private high schools but graduated from a no-name college.

This is why I think people carry more pride when it comes to their college education than their primary/secondary education. It was a response to Cathy's quip that it's mostly on the college level that the school rivalries arise. [emoji4]

Personally though, I'm not a fan of the rivalries. I think that it has also dwindled down a lot in my generation compared to those of graduates a few decades ago. I actually don't understand why people keep pitting Ateneo vs. La Salle. Both are good schools, both can coexist, both have great graduates and crap graduates. Which one is better depends on the aspect you're looking at - for example, Ateneo sucks when it comes to engineering, but is great with its business and humanities courses.


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[Ry_Tower]

My 2 cents lang. Kung ang course mo may licensure exam hindi gaano ka important kung saan ka grad as long as pasado. But for those like mngt mktg etc. Lamang talaga yung top3 universities. Kapag licensed ka kasi diskarte na at yung nga EQ na ang mahalaga. From my experience lang ha. It helps siyempre na nasa top ka din nang batch mo.

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[Gumusut_Amige]

My 2 cents lang. Kung ang course mo may licensure exam hindi gaano ka important kung saan ka grad as long as pasado. But for those like mngt mktg etc. Lamang talaga yung top3 universities. Kapag licensed ka kasi diskarte na at yung nga EQ na ang mahalaga. From my experience lang ha. It helps siyempre na nasa top ka din nang batch mo.

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Just want to chip in bro... with my short experience working locally it matters kung saan ka galing na school. Case in point, itong O&G industry leader dito sa Pilipinas, almost all of their employees came from the big 3 schools (up, dlsu, admu). Ang siste kasi yung mga HR guys are biased come hiring time towards the latter mentioned schools kasi doon din sila galing.

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[benchman]

My 2 cents lang. Kung ang course mo may licensure exam hindi gaano ka important kung saan ka grad as long as pasado. But for those like mngt mktg etc. Lamang talaga yung top3 universities. Kapag licensed ka kasi diskarte na at yung nga EQ na ang mahalaga. From my experience lang ha. It helps siyempre na nasa top ka din nang batch mo.

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yes,yunparang sa board exams na lang magkakaalaman. diba at how many times na ba na may nag top sa board exams na hindi galing sa top 3 uni?

[Ry_Tower]

yes,yunparang sa board exams na lang magkakaalaman. diba at how many times na ba na may nag top sa board exams na hindi galing sa top 3 uni?

Kahit nga hindi ka top notcher sa board eh. Kasi yung ibang top nga puro IQ lang naman. Hindi marunong makisama, magsipsip kunti, hindi malambing or thoughtful...hindibtataas sa position yan. The highest earning batchmates ko nung HS mga wala sa top 5. Nasa top 20 naman pero mga provincial colleges lang graduates pero mga engineers and CPA kasi. Karamihan nga lang nasa ibang bansa na. Hehe, brain drain pa more.

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[unmarked]

Ung pag pasok sa work. Sometimes Dependent, in a way, sa school. Yung pag angat sa work, dependent sa soft skills, eq etc.

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