China, Philippines locked in naval standoff

[Monseratto]

Don't worry OB, you may get what you wish for... Almost two years na and wala pa tayong Ambassador to China. Charge d'affairs lang ng Philippine Embassy parating sinermon... Big stick diplomacy gusto ng China.

By Bloomberg News - May 8, 2012 6:12 PM GMT+0800 .

Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Fu Ying summoned a Beijing-based Philippine diplomat over a territorial dispute in the South China Sea, telling the envoy that the Philippines is escalating the issue.

“I have summoned you twice last month, urging the Philippines to calm down, and to stop any actions that will expand and complicate the issues,” Fu told the Philippine charge d’affairs, according to a statement on the Foreign Ministry website dated yesterday. “But it’s obvious that the Philippines hasn’t realized they are committing a serious mistake.”

“The Chinese side has also made all preparations to respond to any escalation of the situation by the Philippine side,” Fu told the charge d’affairs, whom the Xinhua News Agency identified as Alex Chua.

The Philippines has sought arbitration at the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei reiterated what he called China’s “indisputable sovereignty” over the island during a daily briefing today.

“Whatever the Philippine side says or does about Huangyan island, it will not change the fact that Huangyan island belongs to China,” Hong said.

[timrev]

sana kasi makapagpatayo ng airport, infrastructure sa spartlys island at base sa sa scarbourough shoal...maglagay sana sila tauhan natin dun damihan nila...palagyan natin natin ng resorts sa spartlys hehehehe at sana soon maipatayo na oil refinery natin sa sparlys island..

[barako ba ma]

hehehe we always had too much pride. pride cheeken, pride rice, pride fish. now what the country can do is pull the pants down and bend over in front of the chinese proudly

[Monseratto]

The Chinese could hold a party on the Shoal and all the PHL can do is watch.

MANILA, Philippines - The standoff at Scarborough (Panatag) Shoal entered its first month Tuesday with as many as 30 Chinese boats facing two Philippine vessels, the Armed Forces' Northern Luzon Command said.

In its report, the Nolcom said as of Sunday, among the Chinese vessels at Scarbrough were the surveillance vessels CMS 75 and 81 and the armed fisheries patrol vessel FLEC 310.

On the Philippine side are the Coast Guard vessel "Sarangani" and a Bureau of Fisheries ship.

[Monseratto]

Wise decision...

PH junks plan to buy 'ageing' F16s
09-May-12, 2:39 PM | Abigail Kwok, Interaksyon.com


MANILA, Philippines -- The Philippines has abandoned plans to purchase “ageing” F16 fighter jets from the United States after deciding repairing and refurbishing the aircraft would cost too much.

“F16 is an ageing air asset that will be given to us. It’s mothballed and if you’re going to refurbish it, we have to evaluate because it will cost too much,” Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin told a news briefing.

Even after refurbishing, he added, the jets would only have three to four years of flying time left.

“Lugi ka (You lose),” Gazmin said.

The defense chief said the fighter jets were not brought up during the 2+2 meeting with US officials in Washington.

However, the Philippine government has lined up the purchase of several air assets,
including 21 Vietnam War-vintage UH1H helicopters, 10 attack helicopters and two C130 cargo planes.

The Philippines is also expecting four additional SoKol choppers within the year.

[ghosthunter]

That's a new twist.... LOL!!!

China TV 'claims' Philippines as Chinese territory
May 9, 2012 2:32pm

Beijing — An anchor on China's state-run television network has accidentally declared the Philippines a part of China, in an embarrassing gaffe as tensions between the two nations run high.

He Jia, anchor for China Central Television's (CCTV) nationally televised news broadcast, made the claim during a late Monday broadcast that has been repeatedly replayed on the Internet.

The presenter apparently meant to say that the Huangyan islands – known in the Philippines as the Scarborough Shoal, and claimed by both nations – is China's territory.

"We all know that the Philippines is China's inherent territory and the Philippines belongs to Chinese sovereignty, this is an indisputable fact," He said in the broadcast, which has since disappeared from the CCTV website but is available elsewhere on the web.

Viewers joked in online postings that the presenter's nationalistic fervour led to her mistake.

"This anchor woman is great, a good patriot, she has announced to the world the the Philippines belongs to China," said a microblogger named helenjhuang.

"We should attack directly, send (Philippine President Benigno) Aquino packing and take back our inherent territory."

Another microblogger named kongdehua said, "the Philippines have basically been making irrational trouble, if they want to start a war then we will strike, no one fears them.

"If every Chinese spat once, we could drown (the Philippines)."

CCTV officials refused comment on He's gaff when contacted by AFP and would not say whether the station had apologised.

When commenting on territorial disputes and separatist movements in Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang and neighbouring sea areas, Chinese diplomats and media routinely claim all such areas as an "indisputable part of China's sovereignty and territorial integrity."

Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Fu Ying said late Monday Beijing was ready for "any escalation" of the maritime standoff with the Philippines that has become one of the most high-profile flare ups over the South China Seas and its vast oil and gas deposits in years. — AFP

source; China TV 'claims' Philippines as Chinese territory | GMA News Online | The Go-To Site for Filipinos Everywhere

[Altis6453]

^ Not surprised by the news regarding the F-16s, although the remaining shelf life of the aircraft itself is questionable. 4 years? There are fighter jets a lot older than that which are still being flown today.

You really need money and political will to build up the competency of the PAF, particularly the training of its pilots, the ground/maintenance crew, the airbases that will host the fighter wings, then the planes and weapons. It's likely that any modernization effort will span the terms of at least three (3) presidents in order to get back to jet fighter capability.

[timrev]

pwede siguro nila iconsider yun russian figther jets mas mura kesa sa US made...kelangan din natin surveillance plane at drone aircraft!!!! prepare for battle...

[mykpogi]

padala natin si AiAi (aka Volta), at si Bong Revilla (aka Panday).. Halimaw nga napapatay nila, eh yung warships pa kaya?

[miso_honi]

the filipino communists' prayers have been answered. this time is for real and this time they're not going to be filipinos anymore

[renzo_d10]

Now China REALLY wants the island. They're showing force & throwing threats left & right.

[chua_riwap]

Now China REALLY wants the island. They're showing force & throwing threats left & right.

kawawa naman tayo.........:sad:

[renzo_d10]

kawawa naman tayo.........:sad:

Sa Scarborough Shoal, it's now 11 against 2. And yet, China kept on insisting na tayo ang nagsshow ng aggression.

What they want? Those 2 non-modern boats that we have leave the area and let their fishermen do their thing. Or else, they are ready to engage in war if the situation requires such. Nagsasabi na nga sila na mag-ingat ang Chinese community dito.

I should have my passport and things prepared na pala if ever...

Goodluck Philippines :sad:

[pop3corn]

Sa Scarborough Shoal, it's now 11 against 2. And yet, China kept on insisting na tayo ang nagsshow ng aggression.

What they want? Those 2 non-modern boats that we have leave the area and let their fishermen do their thing. Or else, they are ready to engage in war if the situation requires such. Nagsasabi na nga sila na mag-ingat ang Chinese community dito.

I should have my passport and things prepared na pala if ever...

Goodluck Philippines :sad:

that's weird. kung ako ng General ng China isang destroyer lng nila 2 match our inferior boats, bakit 11? something's happening in that region folks. and it's not what we are reading in the media.

[pop3corn]

Sa Scarborough Shoal, it's now 11 against 2. And yet, China kept on insisting na tayo ang nagsshow ng aggression.

What they want? Those 2 non-modern boats that we have leave the area and let their fishermen do their thing. Or else, they are ready to engage in war if the situation requires such. Nagsasabi na nga sila na mag-ingat ang Chinese community dito.

I should have my passport and things prepared na pala if ever...

Goodluck Philippines :sad:

ba't renz san ka punta sa HKG hehe? if the Chinese invades us, we fight. been studying the Iraq style of war for almost a year now, we can do it to them once they occupy us. 2 Billion chinese only means we kill more of them than us.

i really don't buy that crap that the world favors China over us bec. they have the factories. What the US is doing is attacking them from within. IF China becomes aggressive and pursues expansionism, then they are communist invaders, bec. that is their government.

If a communist country attacks a democratic country, then the rest of the world will side to us. and they will punish China with embargoes and sanctions thereby all achievements thru capitalism they have will halt na. and the people will turn against their own government, pag nawala yun mga privileges and benefits nila.

ang kailangan lang naman i-remove sa China eh ang communist government nila. sad nga lang, kasi tayo ang gagawing collateral damage. eh kasalanan din natin eh, disunited tayo. maybe what we really need is a full-blown war for us to get to our senses, hindi yun huwad na war that the Katipuneros did in late 19th century.


and also don't get scared if the Chinese have nukes or WMDs. Russia had those too and look what happened to them. Communism collapsed bec. the ideology is not sustainable. The Russians were extremely nationalistic but they too turned against their commy govt.


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but we're just being too pessimistic if China do occupy is. hindi nga maintindihan ng China kung ano sila eh communist ba, capitalist ba. para sila yun mga insurgents dito, CPP, NDF ano ba talaga kuya? kung tutuusin the US already planted a virus to their nationalism when they started producing for the West.

[first_light]

Points to remember:
1. Hindi interested ang China sa Pinas, sa Panatag Shoal lang kasi may O&G dun.
2. In case, they occupy the Panatag Shoal (which they already started drilling), nothing will happen just like sa ibang mga reefs sa West Philippine sea na pag-aari ng mga ibang bansa kasama na Pinas. Sa ating wika, "wala tayong magagawa". Ganun talaga eh. Kaya malabong magka-bakbakan.
3. Ayusin na lang muna natin yung loob ng bansa natin. Hangga't hindi ayos ang ating liderato, hindi tayo aasenso.

[marg]

kawawa naman tayo.........:sad:

Tell that to the 12 Senators who got rid of the US bases.

US is laughing at us right now. BWAHAHAHA!!!

[rollyic]

Tell that to the 12 Senators who got rid of the US bases.

US is laughing at us right now. BWAHAHAHA!!!

meron po bang US bases sa Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore?
o may political will lang sila kaya may mga fighter planes, aircraft carrier, submarines, etc. sila?

[marg]

meron po bang US bases sa Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore?
o may political will lang sila kaya may mga fighter planes, aircraft carrier, submarines, etc. sila?

Marami kang hindi alam. May US Bases sa Singapore, right in the vicinity of Sentosa Island and near Changi airport.

The Singaporeans are smarter than Filipinos.

Dati hindi makalapit ang mga Chinese boats when the Americans were here. Now China has Permanent installations in Spratleys and are taking all the resources in Scarbotough.

All the Pinoys could do is watch.

[yapoy86]

popcorn mode muna tayo mga pinoys... what are we gonna throw on them Chinese...

PH really never progressed after world war II, were stuck in mac arthur era...