China, Philippines locked in naval standoff

[oliver1013]

So hindi nga atin si scarboro?

What's your take bro?

[hein]

So hindi nga atin si scarboro?

If you are not able to defend it. Its not yours.

Simple as that

[chua_riwap]

If you are not able to defend it. Its not yours.

Simple as that

e di wala na.......:sad:

[galant E SS]

dapat sana si Spike Boy Ely Pamatong ang naging presidentge natin. Sana naging part na tayo ng U.S.A. , WALA SANANG MANG-AAPI SA ATIN NGAYON.

[vinj]

Ayan, mukhang may tumawag na or na-late lang na receive yung text natin. Baka may tiga Malacanang na nagbasa ng tsikot habang nagpapalipas oras sa trabaho. :D

From: (EXCLUSIVE) US sends nuclear-powered submarine near disputed shoal » Nation » News | Philippine News | philstar.com

EXCLUSIVE) US sends nuclear-powered submarine near disputed shoal
By Jun Pasaylo Home Updated May 15, 2012 04:15 PM 0 comment to this post

Tugboats assist USS North Carolina, a nuclear powered submarine, at the Subic Bay Freeport. (Anthony Bayarong)
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ZAMBALES, Philippines – A United States nuclear-powered submarine was spotted off the coast of Subic Bay Freeport Zone today at the height of the ongoing tension between the Philippines and China on its territorial dispute on Scarborough Shoal.

A source from the US Embassy said the attack submarine is on its routine port visit to Subic and is scheduled to depart from the Philippine waters on May 19.

The USS North Carolina docked at Subic Bay Freeport on Sunday.

The presence of the US war vessel came a day before the Chinese government sets to impose a one-and-half month fishing ban in large swaths of South China Sea starting May 16, including the disputed Scarborough.

Reports reaching Philippine News for the Filipino Global Community also disclose that more war vessels will be coming to the Philippine shores in the coming days.

Apart from the disputed shoal, the China Fisheries Administration Bureau announced that the ban covers the entire area of Spratlys and other islands and reefs dotting the South China Sea.

The ban was announced amid escalating tension between Manila and Beijing over Panatag, which the Philippines said has been part of Masinloc town in Zambales since Spanish times.

Chinese authorities has said the directive means no fishing will be allowed except for mono-layer gillnets, and hook and line fishing, adding that it will confiscate boats, fish catch and fishing gear of violators.

The Philippine government however was adamant that it will not heed on the imposition of fishing ban directive of the Chinese government, saying it has sovereign rights over a portion of the waters where Beijing plans to impose its directive.

“Our position is we do not recognize China’s fishing ban in as much as portions of the ban encompass our exclusive economic zone,” Philippine foreign affairs chief Alberto del Rosario said.

On Monday, the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) also vowed to continue its presence in Panatag Shoal amid China’s pronouncement.

Lt. Commander Rommel Supangan, acting PCG spokesman, said Monday that there’s no change in the presidential directive for the group’s Search and Rescue Vessel 003 (SRV-003) BRP Pampanga to stay put at the Panatag Shoal .

“So far the standing of the President is to maintain the presence of our ship and show our flag in the area,” Supangan said.

[Ry_Tower]

^ hehe, ambilis pala kapag dito galing suggestion.

[miked]

^napaka-unreasonable talaga mga Chinese ano. hindi marunong umintindi ng ibang batas. parang yung kabayong pang-karera. hindi na makita yung gilid. derecho lang tingin. sabagay may direksyon ang buhay nila kung ganun. hehe

yung sa balita nga kahapon na pinagtatapon sa dagat yung mga saging na galing dito. eh di nabawasan tuloy ang kanilang makakain eh andami na nga nila. eh yung mga gamot nga na pinagdadala dito tsaka sa ibang bansa eh tao pala main ingredient. tsk!tsk!

sabagay may kasalanan din ang pinas. hindi natuto sa mga leksyon nung araw.

[Monseratto]

It would have been better if stayed, pero for R&R lang. Wala na siya by the weekend. Wag na mangarap na magagamit natin yun. I'm sure the Chinese were informed beforehand.

A source from the US Embassy said the attack submarine is on its routine port visit to Subic and is scheduled to depart from the Philippine waters on May 19.

Reports reaching Philippine News for the Filipino Global Community also disclose that more war vessels will be coming to the Philippine shores in the coming days.

[Monseratto]

Eto na, magdedeploy na yung US Navy...sa Singapore.

U.S. plans 10-month warship deployment to Singapore

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The first of a new class of U.S. coastal warships will be sent to Singapore next spring for a roughly 10-month deployment, the Navy said on Wednesday, spotlighting a move that may stir China's fears of U.S. involvement in South China Sea disputes.

Deployment of the shallow-draft ship "Freedom" will help refine crew rotations, logistics and maintenance processes to maximize the class's value to U.S. combat commanders, Rear Admiral Thomas Rowden, the Navy's director of surface warfare, told reporters.

President Barack Obama last year ordered stepped-up emphasis on the Asia-Pacific region in a "rebalancing" of U.S. national security planning after a decade of land wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Included in the so-called pivot to the Pacific would be the LCS stationing in Singapore, a rotational U.S. Marine Corps presence in northern Australia and new areas for military cooperation with the Philippines.

China has territorial disputes with the Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and Taiwan across the South China Sea, each searching for gas and oil while building their navies and in some cases, their military alliances.

China's military warned the United States last month that U.S.-Philippine military exercises had raised the risk of armed clashes over contested waters amid a standoff between Philippine and Chinese vessels in a different part of the South China Sea.

[yebo]

hindi R&R lang yung pagpunta ng USS Carolina sa Subic. read between the lines!

the US will not send a nuclear sub on "R&R" with tensions ongoing between its ally and a rival country for R&R reasons only. it (R&R) could be misinterpreted as helping escalate the tensions. but sending it at this time is actually that, raising the bet and see if china blinks. that visit is actually a clear MESSAGE to China that Uncle Sam is there and watching. if things escalate even more then next will be an aegis cruiser passing through the West Philippine Sea closer to the chinese mainland then doing a port visit to Subic, or Singapore or Bangkok if they do not want to press the issue too much. and if that still does not send the message clearly they'll send an aircraft carrier task force on a "routine" port call to Okinawa or Pusan. it's called gun boat diplomacy, talk softly but carry a big stick!

[pop3corn]

at tsaka wag nyo masyado isipin na okay ang war machines ni China, parang wala naman bumili sa kanya ng mga tangke, boats, helicopters na ibang bansa etc. imagine nyo sa mga war torn regions like middle east and eastern europe, bumili ba sila made in china.

ibig sabihin lang, other nationals wouldn't rely on Made In China if they go to war, matalo pa sila.
parang chinese car lang yan. yun nga lang talaga dinadaan niya sa dami talaga, volume, wholesale or whatever hehe

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sana mag-sent ang US ng madami battle/spy drones dito sa exercises nila tulad dun sa mga movies, gusto-gusto ko talaga makakita ng ganun.

[miked]

at tsaka wag nyo masyado isipin na okay ang war machines ni China, parang wala naman bumili sa kanya ng mga tangke, boats, helicopters na ibang bansa etc. imagine nyo sa mga war torn regions like middle east and eastern europe, bumili ba sila made in china.

ibig sabihin lang, other nationals wouldn't rely on Made In China if they go to war, matalo pa sila.
parang chinese car lang yan. yun nga lang talaga dinadaan niya sa dami talaga, volume, wholesale or whatever hehe

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maglilike sayo nyan si allangee....

[Monseratto]

The sub is leaving by Saturday. The PHL is making a big deal out of nothing. China's not even issuing it's usual rhetoric when a US vessel comes close, unlike when a carrier task force comesby.

[Monseratto]

Here we go again...masarap talaga mangarap na gising...

[yebo]

pangarap ni pop3corn yun e paki mo hehehe!

on another note, you do not really expect a sub to stay for a month. it's suppose to stay under water undetected for months and not go for R&R on the surface for a weekend. UNLESS IT NEEDS TO BE SEEN FOR A REASON. i happen to work with 2 former US Navy submariners here and they say that it ("R&R" on a foreign port that is not a US base) is unusual at best. they said that when they were in the navy when their sub left their home port and went on patrol for months it will go back to the home port and nowhere else unless the sub is being rotated out to another port (which becomes its new home port.)

[pop3corn]

saka ano ba naman, ni kahit sino nga sa'tin dito sa mga tiga-Maynila hindi makapag-R&R sa Subic eh, as in ano ba pwede gawin dun besides Zoobic Adventure and visiting those outdated Adidas and Nike Outlets. parang patay din naman red light district sa Olongapo, kunsabagay ang dami dun sa Angeles pa din, eh mag ScTex lang siguro yan mga sailors

pero wow naman, ang tense na nga dito sa area natin, tapos ang gagawin ng mga US Sailors maghahanap ng mga hipon sa Angeles tapos iiwan nila naka-dock eh Nuclear sub pa. parang very unlikely, kung mag R&R sila dun sila syempre sa walang tension na area

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in another point of view, kakatakot naman yan andyan eh nuclear sub pa. as in siguro pag sina-tellite ang Pilipinas ngaun hot na hot sa radiation detection. tsk tsk

[chua_riwap]

pero wow naman, ang tense na nga dito sa area natin, tapos ang gagawin ng mga US Sailors maghahanap ng mga hipon sa Angeles tapos iiwan nila naka-dock eh Nuclear sub pa. parang very unlikely, kung mag R&R sila dun sila syempre sa walang tension na area

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in another point of view, kakatakot naman yan andyan eh nuclear sub pa. as in siguro pag sina-tellite ang Pilipinas ngaun hot na hot sa radiation detection. tsk tsk

..........:rofl:

[Monseratto]

US submarines regularly visits Subic for R&R...

May 15, 2012 11:25pm

A United States attack submarine, the USS North Carolina, docked at Subic Bay on Sunday, the US Pacific Command (Pacom) said in a report.

According to Pacom, the Virginia class fast attack submarine’s Philippine visit was part of the vessel’s Western Pacific deployment.

In a text message on Tuesday, Foreign Affairs spokesperson confirmed the sub’s Philippine presence. “USS North Carolina… [is] in Subic Bay, on routine ship replenishment.”

Hernandez noted the submarine will be in the Philippines until May 19.

Master chief Jon Consford said the visit constitutes “rest and relaxation.”

“Everyone is looking forward to some good liberty, rest and relaxation during our port visit here in Subic Bay… The crew has worked hard and developed tremendously as a team over the last five and a half months,” he said in the same Pacom report.

A regular visit

Meanwhile, the country’s defense agency seemed clueless the USS North Carolina.

“Wala pang official report. I have no knowledge of it,” Department of National Defense spokesperson Peter Paul Ruben Galvez told GMA News Online over the phone.

If a submarine visited in the country, it should be perceived as regular, he said.

“I have no information kung ano ‘yung nature ng visit kung meron man. Pero regarding that, may regular visits naman talaga,” said Galvez.

Yep kasalanan ni Obama pa nga nagbubully yung China...

Amid brewing tensions between Beijing and Manila over Panatag Shoal, the Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP)
said in a statement on Sunday that US military presence escalates the tension between the two Asian countries.

“It is US military buildup… in the Asia-Pacific that is pushing China to further aggressiveness, resulting in worsening territorial conflicts and stoking diplomatic tensions between China and the Philippines,” the statement read.

Though the group backed the assertion of Philippine sovereignty over Panatag Shoal, it noted that the country should not lean on the US for military aid.

"In the past, the conflicts in the South China Sea have never been a source of great tension between the Philippines and China,” they said.

“Without the presence and interference of the US, claimant countries, including China, have been able to work together with each other with the aim of resolving the conflicts through diplomacy and negotiations,” CPP claimed.

[CVT]

pero wow naman, ang tense na nga dito sa area natin, tapos ang gagawin ng mga US Sailors maghahanap ng mga hipon sa Angeles tapos iiwan nila naka-dock eh Nuclear sub pa. parang very unlikely, kung mag R&R sila dun sila syempre sa walang tension na area

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in another point of view, kakatakot naman yan andyan eh nuclear sub pa. as in siguro pag sina-tellite ang Pilipinas ngaun hot na hot sa radiation detection. tsk tsk

Put3 talaga itong si bro.pop3corn....

Akala ko kung anong "hipon" ang hahanapin ng mga Submariners.... :hysterical:

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