Antibiotics

[AnuVaYan]

kapag feeling ko kailangan ko ng antibiotics, punta muna ako sa doktor, pa checkup, at pa reseta ng antibiotics kung kailangan. kaso minsan ang nirereseta grabeng ka mahal naman, yung nabili ko today 201.5 ang isa, tapos 7 ang kailangan.

nagsasayang lang ba ako ng pera? pwede ba na kahit anong sakit na kailangan ng antibiotics ay amoxicilin na lang? ang pagkaintindi ko kasi e bawat germs/sakit ay may ibang antibiotics na pampatay, pero baka mali naman ako e di next time e makatipid na hehehe.

mga doctors na tsikoteers shed some light naman. salamat po.

[uls]

Pharmaceutical companies ask the docs to prescribe the newer, more expensive ones coz there's more money to be made there. The older, cheaper antibiotics all have generic equivalents so there's not much money to be made.

Alam naman natin ang relationship between pharmaceutical companies and doctors diba?

[smooth]

kapag feeling ko kailangan ko ng antibiotics, punta muna ako sa doktor, pa checkup, at pa reseta ng antibiotics kung kailangan. kaso minsan ang nirereseta grabeng ka mahal naman, yung nabili ko today 201.5 ang isa, tapos 7 ang kailangan.

nagsasayang lang ba ako ng pera? pwede ba na kahit anong sakit na kailangan ng antibiotics ay amoxicilin na lang? ang pagkaintindi ko kasi e bawat germs/sakit ay may ibang antibiotics na pampatay, pero baka mali naman ako e di next time e makatipid na hehehe.

mga doctors na tsikoteers shed some light naman. salamat po.

pamahal talaga ng pamahal ang antibiotics. its a never ending battle against the microbes. people make antibiotics, resistant strains survive. we make stronger antibiotics, even more resistant strains survive. never ending battle yan. dagdagan pa ng poor compliance (which is sometimes inevitable), kaya lalong lumalakas ang mga microbes.

i don't want to scare you guys pero meron ng mga methicilin-resistant staph aureus (MRSA) na hindi na tinatablan ng vancomycin, at meron na ding MDR-TB (mutiple drug resistant TB). kapag etong mga to ang dumapo sa iyo, medyo mahirap at matindi ang gamutan.

IMO, kung gamaling ka, then hindi ka nagsayang ng pera. and you're correct, hindi lahat ng antibiotics ay pwede sa lahat ng infection. you have to consider kung may allergy ka sa antibiotic, kung susceptible yung "germ" sa antibiotic na gagamitin mo, at kung ang antibiotic na iinumin mo ay aabot sa location ng katawan mo kung nasaan ang "germ."

[OTEP]

smooth is right its an uphill battle. Resistant strains form everyday and pharmaceuticals have to keep up.

But yes, the medreps are hot too. :lol:

[wildthing]

OT...resistant strains are happening, kasi your typical pork, egg and poultry is usually "tainted" with residual antibiotics.

The bad side is some of these antibiotics used in livestocks are already the same ones STILL being used for humans - ex. CEFALEXINE - used widely sa broiler chickens but one of the primary antibiotics for human respiratory disorders.

[OTEP]

Resistant strains also form when patients have poor compliance (e.g. they underdose, fail to take the required doses, self medicate, etc.).

[AnuVaYan]

Resistant strains also form when patients have poor compliance (e.g. they underdose, fail to take the required doses, self medicate, etc.).

Oo nga e, kaya ako paranoid kapag antibiotics na pinag uusapan. Pa reseta talaga ako.

[moe]

some people think that amoxicillin is a cure-all antibiotic for all illnesses. some just take it for 1 or 2 days or only until they start feeling better. antibiotics should be taken the whole 5-7 days, and should be taken religiously.

[bayonic]

mag Yakult na lang kayo .....

PRO BIOTICS

[eVo-XTreme]

kapag feeling ko kailangan ko ng antibiotics, punta muna ako sa doktor, pa checkup, at pa reseta ng antibiotics kung kailangan. kaso minsan ang nirereseta grabeng ka mahal naman, yung nabili ko today 201.5 ang isa, tapos 7 ang kailangan.

nagsasayang lang ba ako ng pera? pwede ba na kahit anong sakit na kailangan ng antibiotics ay amoxicilin na lang? ang pagkaintindi ko kasi e bawat germs/sakit ay may ibang antibiotics na pampatay, pero baka mali naman ako e di next time e makatipid na hehehe.

mga doctors na tsikoteers shed some light naman. salamat po.

Ummm... im not a doctor pero i know antibiotics. hehe! wag po kayong basta basta nalang bibili at magtetake ng gamot especially if antibiotics is your concern... its really DANGEROUS and could be FATAL... i recommend if you feel the need for antibiotics better consult a doctor first and foremost for you to be given the right drug and dosage and also Antibiotics can cause ALLERGIC reactions. Imbis na gumaling ka, lalo pa lumala condition mo kasi mali antibiotics tinake mo. Its not like Paracetamol or Ibuprofen na pagsumakit ulo mo or something pwede ka na bumili nyan. Maraming klase ng antibiotics... Amoxicillin is under Penicillins FYI... maraming din klase ng Peniccilins. Take it also at the right time to maintain the desired effect.

Hope this helps you sir...

[Lucius]

Antibiotics are made to cure people's FEAR

More fear = more money

[imontherhythm]

i agree on that EvoXtreme..

and there's one thing that is extremely scary bout those antibiotics.

superinfection.

[eVo-XTreme]

i agree on that EvoXtreme..

and there's one thing that is extremely scary bout those antibiotics.

superinfection.

Absolutely... Tsaka take note... madaming brand ang Amoxicillin... not every Amoxicillin in the market can give you a desired effect, usually the most expensive once are more effective. Kaya minsan kung kulang sa budget ang patient, ang prescribed ng doctors is generic brand lang.

[ogpro]

First of all, why do you feel you need antibiotics? Do you have an infection? And did the doc properly diagnose what it was? (I'm sure naman, but I'm just interested to know...)

[uls]

Can the docs tell what kind of bacteria u are infected with by just looking at you?

I mean they prescribe antibiotics without a bacteria culture. How can they tell what kind of bacteria u have?

U go to the doc, he looks at u, then he writes a prescription...

pano nya alam na ung antibiotic na na-prescribe nya is effective against ur bacteria? trial and error? if it doesnt work, he prescribes another?

[AnuVaYan]

First of all, why do you feel you need antibiotics? Do you have an infection? And did the doc properly diagnose what it was? (I'm sure naman, but I'm just interested to know...)

Can the docs tell what kind of bacteria u are infected with by just looking at you?

I mean they prescribe antibiotics without a bacteria culture. How can they tell what kind of bacteria u have?

U go to the doc, he looks at u, then he writes a prescription...

pano nya alam na ung antibiotic na na-prescribe nya is effective against ur bacteria? trial and error? if it doesnt work, he prescribes another?

kasi po i've had post nasal drip for more than a week, sabay masakit ulo ko lalo na pag hapon. tapos nahihirapan ako lumunok. i'm no doctor or nurse or med rep. pero alam ko kapag viral infection, hindi kailangan ng antibiotics, it will go away mga 7 days, inum lang ng inom ng maraming liquid saka pahinga. so after 7 days at masama pa rin pakiramdam ko, (actually lumala pa nga nung saturday, kasi nilagnat din ako saka nag chills). nagpa tingin din ako sa doktor, nung una nga ayaw pa ako resetahan ng antibiotics, vit c lang daw. pero nagdalawang isip siya kasi sabi ko may history na ako ng sinusitis, sabi niya kung ok lang daw sa akin ipa cbc nya ako saka platelet count. so ayun... nakita mataas wbc ko. kung anong klaseng bacteria, hindi ko alam kung paano niya nalaman, siguro depende sa symptoms.

[AnuVaYan]

paranoid talaga ako pagdating sa antibiotics, kaya hindi ako basta basta umiinom ng walang prescription. naalala ko kasi yung babaeng nagkaroon ng Stevens Johnsons Syndrome, dati ang alam ko ang nasa balita ay allergic reaction daw yun sa gamot particularly dun sa antibiotics na ibinigay dun sa babae.

note: Stevens Johnsons Syndrome yung nagkakaroon ng mga lesions all over the body, as in all over, yung babaeng nabalita dati pati daw sa loob ng privates niya ay meron, pati sa mata meron nabulag nga yung babae.

actually unknown pa talaga yung mga iba pang causes ng SJS, pero tumatak lang yung about sa antibiotics kasi nga nailabas sa tv. pero pwede din sa ibang gamot ma allergy, pwede ding due to viral infections like hepatitis, herpes, HIV etc.

[uls]

Fighting the viral infection weakened ur immune system causing u to be more vulnerable to bacterial infection. That's why many docs prescribe antibiotics pag may viral infection. Prophylaxis treatment tawag nila dyan.

Pero, they keep telling us about drug-resistant bacteria... but they are also the ones who overprescribe antibiotics. And most of the time, they prescribe the newer ones.

Hindi ba dapat ung newer antibiotics dapat parang secret weapon? Pag di gumana ang older antibiotics, then they use the newer ones?

They are exposing bacteria to newer antibiotics agad. Giving the bacteria a chance to evolve around it.

Paano pag naubusan na ng secret weapon? Like the XDR-TB or MRSA?

[XTO]

go for the generic brand. you can ask your doc if there's an equivalent.

personally hangga't kaya i don't take antibiotics, mas marami pang side effects yan kesa good effect. and pag nasanay ka na sa antibiotic hihina na ang antibodies mo. vitamins supplement is good.

[nap123]

mag Yakult na lang kayo .....

PRO BIOTICS

Tama ka bayonic, sa kinakain natin yan kaya tayo nagkakasakit kailangan ng pro biotics lilke yakult. Kung natural antiviral take virgin coconut oil subok na eto.