Looks like AMDis already loosing out to Intel in the technology wars. Intel is already offering P4s with HT technology, FSB of up to 800Mhz and a cache of 1MB.
For a regular PC gamer - is the 10 to 20% higher price of the Intel worth it over the AthlonXP?
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June 30th, 2004 05:06 PM #1
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June 30th, 2004 05:19 PM #2John, youre comparing the P4 to an outdated product (AXP - But note that this still has teeth!)
Mukhang ebs yang Pentium 4 pag kinompare mo sa Athlon 64. In fact the A64 3200 costs a lot more (at least 7k more) than the P4 3.0GHz.
This isnt even the top of the line AMD processor!
I think the latest is called FX-51 or FX-53.... 1600MHz bus!Last edited by pajerokid; June 30th, 2004 at 05:22 PM.
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June 30th, 2004 05:25 PM #3dapat pala for 32-bit technology lang ang sinabi ko... hehehe...
can't really say that much for 64-bit right now since only a handful of softwares is available for it...
but back to 32-bit processors... parang may edge pa rin ang P4 kaysa sa AthlonXP?
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June 30th, 2004 05:31 PM #4i still pefer amd than intel, i think that the price of intel is not worth it.
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June 30th, 2004 05:32 PM #5The latest processor from Intel, the extreme edition * 3.2Ghz, has an L3 cache of 2MB (if i remember correctly) which beats the Athon 64 in every performance test... at a price of US$ 900 - 1300, while the Athlon 64 running on 2.2Ghz goes for roughly Php 15K.
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June 30th, 2004 05:34 PM #7The A64 fully supports 32bit Software.
In fact this is the evolution of the Athlon, as both current AMD processors (Opteron, Athlon64) are 64bit capable. Its only gonna be a while before these hit the streets at reasonable prices. As of now Villman lang meron nito AFAIK.
In short, malapit na ma-phase out ang AXP and Duron to be replaced by the FX-55 and Semperon (i read this a long time back, kalimutan ko na e hehe).
Getting back to your question, yes, bugbog sarado ang AXP if you compare it to a P4 C upwards.
Im using an AXP Barton, i have no complaints whatsoever when it comes to video games.
.......must be my GeForce FX5900 hehehe.
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June 30th, 2004 05:37 PM #8teka pareng John, mag-uupgrade ka ba? better wait muna because a lot of things are happening right now. The stuff you'll be getting might soon become obsolete.... what with a new memory format (2x faster than DDR) and PCI-Express video cards on the horizon.
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June 30th, 2004 05:40 PM #9mas mahal pa ang video card mo kaysa sa CPU + MOBO... hehehe... :DOriginally posted by pajerokid
.......must be my GeForce FX5900 hehehe.
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June 30th, 2004 05:48 PM #10pareng John, taken from tomshardware.com.....
The Athlon64 FX clearly beats its archrival's processors in most of our benchmarks. The Intel processors all collect points, in some cases dramatically, in speed-sensitive applications such as rendering or audio and video compression, and with applications optimized for HyperThreading. However, as soon as 3D applications and games are run, FX steamrolls ahead. That must be annoying for Intel, since the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition is targeted for these applications.
Take note that the A64 runs at about 1GHz less and costs $200 cheaper
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June 30th, 2004 05:55 PM #11Pucha pare, kung alam mo lang pinapantasya ko ngayong videocard.... kasing mahal na ng PC hehe. Try to do a search on the ATi Radeon X800 Ultimate Edition the one with 16 pixel rendering pipelines!Originally posted by mazdamazda
mas mahal pa ang video card mo kaysa sa CPU + MOBO... hehehe... :D
BTTT, realistically a barton 2.5GHz (3200+) is more than enough to get all these games going. Para sakin hindi pa rin worth ang premium sa Intel processors. If i were to get a server, i'd go Intel, but for Gaming/Home use... solid AMD ako.
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June 30th, 2004 05:57 PM #12tanong ko ulitOriginally posted by boybi
totoo bang mas mainit ang AMD kesa sa Intel?
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FrankDrebin GuestJune 30th, 2004 05:58 PM #13Yep.Originally posted by boybi
totoo bang mas mainit ang AMD kesa sa Intel?
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June 30th, 2004 06:00 PM #14basta ako AMD.. matagal na sakin.. 4 years na tong 1.2ghz ko.. bagong labas palang nung binili ko and a lot cheaper than intel.. no probs with the processor.. board nagkaproblema na epox ata un.. tapos.. lagi pang magdamag nakabukas tong pc .. online pa lagi... meron pa nga na umabot ng 2 days bukas pc ko eh.. no frablem! ... dalawa nga lang fan ko na malalaki (side and back) wala daw auto shutdown ung processor kung magoverheat due to a busted fan ehÜ
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June 30th, 2004 06:00 PM #15On the heat issue.....
This was generally true a couple of models back, pero Pentiums are getting as hot as Athlons nowadays....
check niyo tom's hardware guide and anandtech.com for the latest on hardware.... nakakalaway....
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June 30th, 2004 06:05 PM #16bumabagal ba ang speed kapag umiinit masyado ang processor?
24/7 kasi naka-ON ang PC ko, and minsan parang ang bagal magload ng screen.Signature
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FrankDrebin GuestJune 30th, 2004 06:11 PM #17Yep. Usually sa init yun. Ang mga server isa sa nagpapamahal ay yung mga fan niya.Originally posted by boybi
bumabagal ba ang speed kapag umiinit masyado ang processor?
24/7 kasi naka-ON ang PC ko, and minsan parang ang bagal magload ng screen.
Dapat yata boybi ang pc mo ay Dell Power Edge. Or laging naka-aircon ang PC mo 24/7.
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June 30th, 2004 06:14 PM #18yep bumabagal po pag umiinit.
ndi pa rin bumibigay tong 5 yr old Pentium 3 ko... i had a bad experience with AMD's "486" versions kaya intel pa rin
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June 30th, 2004 06:14 PM #19sir boybi nauubos ung system resources niyan kaya bumababagal.. dapat talga nag rerestart ka ng pc occasionally.. tsaka maganda rin un ino off mo kahit 10 mins minsan para nakakapahinga kahit papano...Ü
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June 30th, 2004 06:15 PM #20gabi lang naka aircon PC ko. 3 na nga ang fan ko sa casing excluding the power supply fan.
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