2015 Mazda 2

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this is just me but i'd put Mazda 6 Refresh/Wagon and MX5 above Mz2

You do have a case, altho nahuli ung release ng dalwa and nauna ang m3 sa m2 so maybe thats why.

All in all its a matter of preference nga naman.

[Walter]

I beg your pardon sir but why did you say that m3 is safer?

Larger vehicle is normally safer than smaller ones. The Mazda 3 at that less than 1M is a very good value already. Mazda 2 was designed with budget as a factor (yes it offers more premium and quality than it's rivals).

[lsdgenie]

Wala naman difference sa Fuelsave para sa akin. Tsaka di naman daw maselan sa octane rating ang Skyactiv engine unlike other high conpression engines.

Hmmm, if ever it's the other way around - sky activ supposedly doesn't like high octane gas (as per the sa). Not sure I really believe him, but I normally place either blaze or nitro plus in my tanks, and only regular 93 octane in my 3.

[derick_dvr]

Larger vehicle is normally safer than smaller ones. The Mazda 3 at that less than 1M is a very good value already. Mazda 2 was designed with budget as a factor (yes it offers more premium and quality than it's rivals).

Oh i get your point sir. Thank you. And one more thing. Regarding the size. Both m2 R and m3 v are 1.5 lit engine right? Does this greatly affect the performance of the m3 v considering that it is considerably a larger car?

[Yatta]

Hmmm, if ever it's the other way around - sky activ supposedly doesn't like high octane gas (as per the sa). Not sure I really believe him, but I normally place either blaze or nitro plus in my tanks, and only regular 93 octane in my 3.

Its not that it doesn't like hi-octane. It just doesn't need/take advantage of it unlike other hi-compression engines na may tope kapag low-octane ang ginamit.

Oh i get your point sir. Thank you. And one more thing. Regarding the size. Both m2 R and m3 v are 1.5 lit engine right? Does this greatly affect the performance of the m3 v considering that it is considerably a larger car?

Slightly lower compression and lower power ang 1.5L ng Mz2 vs 1.5 ng Mz3. Match naman sila pareho sa power to weight ratio, mas mabigat ang 3 kaya mas malakas yung makina.

[travajante]

Bought the hobo 3 hatch when there weren't any 2s nor MX5s out....like all 3..
Had it been today, hands down...the 3 still. My use dictates choice. I haul people & stuff daily. A bike can even fit in there. And the 1.5 has amazingly plenty to give. Love everything about it.... more now than day1.
Had I the moolah, I'd get all 3. All great cars.

[derick_dvr]

To the m2 and m3 users. Meron na po ba sa inyo dito mga sirs ang tapos na sa yogin3? Kamusta naman po ang maintenance nila? Is it that expensive?

[derick_dvr]

Slightly lower compression and lower power ang 1.5L ng Mz2 vs 1.5 ng Mz3. Match naman sila pareho sa power to weight ratio, mas mabigat ang 3 kaya mas malakas yung makina.

Thank you sir for the reply.

[JohnM]

To the m2 and m3 users. Meron na po ba sa inyo dito mga sirs ang tapos na sa yogin3? Kamusta naman po ang maintenance nila? Is it that expensive?

May loyalty program ang Mazda Pasig. If you complete Yojin3 with them they give you 4 PMS (or 2 years) worth of free semi-synth oil and oil filter. Labor na lang ang babayaran.

I see quite a few older models at the casa. Tambayan din ang Pasig ng Miata Club.

[Walter]

Oh i get your point sir. Thank you. And one more thing. Regarding the size. Both m2 R and m3 v are 1.5 lit engine right? Does this greatly affect the performance of the m3 v considering that it is considerably a larger car?

The Mazda 2 will consume less fuel and perform better but the Mazda 3 will still ride and handle better.

[numbah5]

I have no qualms with the handling and ride of my Mazda 2. Never experienced any understeer or oversteer kanina on the road going to Ayala Westgrove, was tackling some curves at 55 kph without stepping on the brakes. My verdict is that it has sharper handling than my sister's Jazz. It's a nice car to toss and play around

[simplenik7]

Mga sir, which do you think looks better on Soul Red: Paint Sealant or Carnauba Wax? One site I've read (Choosing Paint Protection | Car Care Advice | Polished Bliss) recommends paint sealant for metallic paints since more light gets transmitted to the metallic/pearlescent flakes. Any thoughts? Pictures would be greatly appreciated. If I'm not mistaken, sir numbah5's Pomponazzi paint protector is a form of sealant. I'm getting my Mazda 2 in Soul Red next week and the first things I plan to do is get some form of paint protection and a V-Kool tint. Dito na mapupunta yung nakuha kong discount from the dealer, hehe. This will be my first car so I'm completely new to this but I've read threads here in tsikot and around the web. TIA

[kimbon]

May loyalty program ang Mazda Pasig. If you complete Yojin3 with them they give you 4 PMS (or 2 years) worth of free semi-synth oil and oil filter. Labor na lang ang babayaran.

wow, four more PMS was just gravy... any idea how long the loyalty program will last? TIA

[aRTie]

To the m2 and m3 users. Meron na po ba sa inyo dito mga sirs ang tapos na sa yogin3? Kamusta naman po ang maintenance nila? Is it that expensive?

correct me na lang mga sir if i'm wrong but i'm getting the impression that the maintenance post Yojin3 will be very costly
namamahalan kasi ako sa price ng parts and accessories nila

example (for an older generation Mz3):
Sparkplugs - Php 1.7k,Denso counterpart sa hardware only costs Php 600
Ducktail Spoiler - Php 35k, 5k lang kay Clifford including paint and installation
Fog lights - Php 65k, $300 lang ang oem part sa ebay


this is not to discourage anyone, there are lots of reputable shops outside casa naman that costs much less

anyway, i still have 1 more session left on my Yojin3, i'll know in the next few months gaano kabigat yung succeeding PMSs

[Yatta]

correct me na lang mga sir if i'm wrong but i'm getting the impression that the maintenance post Yojin3 will be very costly
namamahalan kasi ako sa price ng parts and accessories nila

example (for an older generation Mz3):
Sparkplugs - Php 1.7k,Denso counterpart sa hardware only costs Php 600
Ducktail Spoiler - Php 35k, 5k lang kay Clifford including paint and installation
Fog lights - Php 65k, $300 lang ang oem part sa ebay


this is not to discourage anyone, there are lots of reputable shops outside casa naman that costs much less

anyway, i still have 1 more session left on my Yojin3, i'll know in the next few months gaano kabigat yung succeeding PMSs

Mahal talaga kapag sa casa. Kahit Toyota. The primaty reason most owners stick to casa servicing is to maintain warranty. Once that is gone pwede ka na sa labas magpa-service. Nasa manual naman ang mga kailangan ipa-check.

[aRTie]

Mahal talaga kapag sa casa. Kahit Toyota. The primaty reason most owners stick to casa servicing is to maintain warranty. Once that is gone pwede ka na sa labas magpa-service. Nasa manual naman ang mga kailangan ipa-check.

Agree with you sir that basta casa maintenance, mataas compared sa labas, but i'm thinking Mazda will be exceptionally high

example lang on my sister's Avanza, she had a minor parking accident where headlight and bumper were replaced plus some body works done, repair sa toyota costed more or less 30k.. mas mura pa kesa sa ducktail spoiler ni mazda

casa maintenance is expensive.. some service centers will charge high, while others will charge much higher
Mazda, i think, will be higher than Honda's pms cost (no concrete basis here, just my speculation based on price of parts/accessories)

[Yatta]

Agree with you sir that basta casa maintenance, mataas compared sa labas, but i'm thinking Mazda will be exceptionally high

example lang on my sister's Avanza, she had a minor parking accident where headlight and bumper were replaced plus some body works done, repair sa toyota costed more or less 30k.. mas mura pa kesa sa ducktail spoiler ni mazda

casa maintenance is expensive.. some service centers will charge high, while others will charge much higher
Mazda, i think, will be higher than Honda's pms cost (no concrete basis here, just my speculation based on price of parts/accessories)

I think its wrong to base it on price of accessories. You can run the car w/o those (kaya nga "accessory" lang ang tawag). Mahal din ang Toyota acessories (especially the TRD ones). They really don't sell much of those hence the price, and only enthusiasts will buy them (and also have the money too).

[travajante]

Why worry too much about post-yojin? There isn't anything that's out of the ordinary to require attention so far.

Since Sky applications are still new, we probably won’t see any engine-related *repair work until much later, I'm hoping. Like any relatively new technology, there might be some teething problems, which will *provide opportunities for the aftermarket down the road.....but for now, the SKYACTIVs appear to be working quite well. Suspension systems, on our roads, may need refreshing at certain intervals. So far, they've been very good.

The maintenance requirements for *SKY engines are pretty similar to most. Scheduled oil change *intervals for “normal” service is every 10k kms w/ euro-blend fully synthetics. Unless you'd want half that interval, it doesn't really seem too costly. In the US, Mazda Sky spark plugs are long-life platinum 1s with a replacement interval of around 100-150k miles. We can expect them to be pricey off the dealerships. The recommended service interval for changing the FL22 coolant, however, is only 60,000 miles. The tranny fluid is long life. Regular level checks are recommended to ensure the tranny 's long term health. I've yet to check what Mazda recommends on change interval, but generally on non-CVTs, it should be around every 100k kms. All these are still a few years away.

Worrying is probably the foremost cause of stress & premature aging....put it off til when necessary....For now, let's just enjoy what Mazda has given us.

[aRTie]

I think its wrong to base it on price of accessories. You can run the car w/o those (kaya nga "accessory" lang ang tawag). Mahal din ang Toyota acessories (especially the TRD ones). They really don't sell much of those hence the price, and only enthusiasts will buy them (and also have the money too).

Yup, but i actually just used that price comparison since that was from personal experience and i got the actual quotation.
I should say though that i'm a member of Mazda3PH (non-skyactiv) group, where rides are as old as 2005 models and most are not covered by Yojin3. You could read accounts there of parts and service prices done in casa that are ridiculously expensive.

I also own a Nissan, and have hands-on experiences with some Toyotas and Hondas. From what i've gathered so far, i would say that Mazda is one of the most expensive Japanese brand to maintain long term, especially if done in Casa.

Berjaya made a big leap with Yojin3, and i salute them for that. Hope they could also do something post the 3 year free period like offering lower parts and service cost.

Why worry too much about post-yojin? There isn't anything that's out of the ordinary to require attention so far.

Just wanted to share my insight sir Travs regarding a post yojin question a page back by sir derick. I think i'm one of the few here with the Yojin3 perk about to end, got my unit last 2013, few months after Berjaya took Mazda from Ford.


In any case, this should not detract buyers from getting a Mazda. They offer great cars and Yojin 3 is a real winner imho. After Yojin, there are lots of reputable shops that can do maintenance service if casa price is too high. Take me back 3 years from today and i'd still get the exact same Mazda i bought.

[Yatta]

I think the problem with the earlier Mazdas (and possibly even now) is the scarcity if not lack of parts sources aside from the casa, thats why the parts were expensive. They don't reach the same saturation as Toyotas (as teh saying goes you can buy a fanbelt at your corner sari-sari store) or even Mitsubishis.