Isuzu I-Van Test Drive Report

[mondragon]

pambihira kayo, mababann ako dahil lang sa ilang txt type message?ung iba nga dito nagmumura pa di nyo pagsabihan...
ghosthunter ikaw ng sabi nyan hndi ako.. iba ang interpretasyon m.. ang akin kya number1 selling ang isuzu trucks d2 sa pinas kasi mgmasid ka sa daan, halos isuzu trucks makikita mo.. second nlang ung other brands.. and forte ng isuzu ang trucks/diesel engine making... pati fuel efficiency pinapahalagahan nila yan

isuzu ivan, maaring mbagal sya o ms matagtag kumpara sa ibang van-kasi nga truck... substandard product kamo?4 u cguro..
my mga nega coments din sa i-van nsabi ko na din d2, like foldable seats dapat-(sana may 23 seating minimum config),sliding doors sana, higher ground clearance sa body nya.. pero ung engine reliability nya at fuel efficiency d mtatawaran un.... mas ok nga ung truck n nilagyan ng van body kesa sa mga innova na pinilit gawin uv express service at ung mazda mpv na mababa.. db?

[uls]

GH:

How can you promote a product that is not even fit to sell as it stands? It would be a major embarrassment to any car company to sell such a SUBSTANDARD product.

And to use "pinoy" as a selling point? Is that trying to say that "pinoys" are also substandard?

quoting myself:

the i-van sucks. period

Isuzu is using its strong branding here to sell us crap

trying to pass that cheap 4-brake-drum truck with a backyard-fabricated body as a passenger van to compete with the Hiace?

Isuzu is really pushing it

baket di nalang nagparating ang Isuzu ng matinong passenger van panlaban sa Hiace, Urvan? baket kinontrata ng Isuzu Pinas ang isang local truck body maker para gawing passenger van ang NHR?

is it coz Isuzu Japan HQ instructed Isuzu Pinas to find a way to get rid of those trucks? other countries don't want those trucks... one of the few countries on earth that will absorb those trucks is the Phils.

ung i-van resulta ng brainstorming ng Isuzu Pinas people

that piece of ****

it's kinda insulting yung tingin nila sa Pinas market no?

like i said... tingin nila kahit anong sasakyan na may tatak na Isuzu kakagatin ng pinoy

[ghosthunter]

pambihira kayo, mababann ako dahil lang sa ilang txt type message?ung iba nga dito nagmumura pa di nyo pagsabihan...
ghosthunter ikaw ng sabi nyan hndi ako.. iba ang interpretasyon m.. ang akin kya number1 selling ang isuzu trucks d2 sa pinas kasi mgmasid ka sa daan, halos isuzu trucks makikita mo.. second nlang ung other brands.. and forte ng isuzu ang trucks/diesel engine making... pati fuel efficiency pinapahalagahan nila yan

isuzu ivan, maaring mbagal sya o ms matagtag kumpara sa ibang van-kasi nga truck... substandard product kamo?4 u cguro..
my mga nega coments din sa i-van nsabi ko na din d2, like foldable seats dapat-(sana may 23 seating minimum config),sliding doors sana, higher ground clearance sa body nya.. pero ung engine reliability nya at fuel efficiency d mtatawaran un.... mas ok nga ung truck n nilagyan ng van body kesa sa mga innova na pinilit gawin uv express service at ung mazda mpv na mababa.. db?

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[mondragon]

bigyan muna natin ng chansa masalang sa mga express service ang ivan.. totoo #1 truck maker ang isuzu trucks.. sabi nga eh isuzu=trucks 4 life... db pg isuzu anu agad pumapasok sa isip ng tao db truck.malaki....

di naman agad ganun kadali ng pgbabago...lets give them enough time... baka naman ung mga nagawa nilang ivan ngaun eh mgkaron din ng pgbbago... mgreflect kamo?tingin tingin ka sa daan.. anu madalas mo makikita isuzu trucks o ung iba.......ung toyota nga ti-nap ung number1 truck maker-guess who?hndi mistubishi,hindi nissan diesel,hindi hino,etc... eh ano? ISUZU lng naman.. sayang lang di natuloy kc ngconcentrate muna toyota sa pggawa ng hybrid cars nila.. ang plano dapat dun isuzu ang mgpplay ng major role sa pgdevelop ng disel engine sa cars nila (1.6L) ata un.. although we know na toyota owns 5.9% of isuzu....

so kung wala o substandard lng ang isuzu, bkit sila ung tinapik ng toyota 2 help them out sa diesel engine?kitam, #1 automaker meets the number1 truck maker-and sino pa ba may forte nyan?isuzu lng naman.. they could have opted for mitsubishi,hino, etc.. pero sa isuzu sila.. bkt kaya?

[uls]

kung mali din ung interpretation mo uls bout sa cheerleding na yan.. english english ka pa jan .. dapat ganito.... hndi ako taga lasalle pero ngchecheer ako sa lasalle parang gnun... mali ka din

db?parang halimbawa ako di ako college grad sa la salle pero if ever my games sila against sa ibang school kumakampi ako sa la salle.. pg may ngmumura o lumalait sa la salle sympre sasbihin ko,, sobra naman kau.. mdami din naman mggaling na atletes jan.. prang ganun..

ya tama interpretasyon mo

ya pa-english english ako... fluent kasi ako sa tatlong language.. kung ano language feel ko gamitin yan ang lalabas

i only needed one sentence to get that "cheering" point across. you need a whole essay to interpret my point.

[ghosthunter]

pambihira kayo, mababann ako dahil lang sa ilang txt type message?ung iba nga dito nagmumura pa di nyo pagsabihan...
ghosthunter ikaw ng sabi nyan hndi ako.. iba ang interpretasyon m.. ang akin kya number1 selling ang isuzu trucks d2 sa pinas kasi mgmasid ka sa daan, halos isuzu trucks makikita mo.. second nlang ung other brands.. and forte ng isuzu ang trucks/diesel engine making... pati fuel efficiency pinapahalagahan nila yan

isuzu ivan, maaring mbagal sya o ms matagtag kumpara sa ibang van-kasi nga truck... substandard product kamo?4 u cguro..
my mga nega coments din sa i-van nsabi ko na din d2, like foldable seats dapat-(sana may 23 seating minimum config),sliding doors sana, higher ground clearance sa body nya.. pero ung engine reliability nya at fuel efficiency d mtatawaran un.... mas ok nga ung truck n nilagyan ng van body kesa sa mga innova na pinilit gawin uv express service at ung mazda mpv na mababa.. db?

ISUZU trucks might be one of the preferred by companies with cargo transport needs BUT as a "mini-bus" or passenger-van, there is much to be desired. You have to remember, the I-Van is not transporting a load of cornchips, it's transporting a load of PEOPLE. And people should not be treated as CARGO.

[niky]

so kung wala o substandard lng ang isuzu, bkit sila ung tinapik ng toyota 2 help them out sa diesel engine?kitam, #1 automaker meets the number1 truck maker-and sino pa ba may forte nyan?isuzu lng naman.. they could have opted for mitsubishi,hino, etc.. pero sa isuzu sila.. bkt kaya?

Walang kinalaman ito sa iVan. Hindi naman nag-partnership ang Toyota at Isuzu para bilhan ng Toyota ang 4JB1.

Para bang sinabi mo, dahil binibili n Nissan at Ford ang hybrid technology ng Toyota, magandang maganda ang fuel pump ng D4D. Does not compute. Walang kinalaman ang D4D sa hybrids. Walang kinalaman ang old-school na 4JB1 sa mga bagong common-rail na diesel ng Isuzu.

[uls]

so isuzu i-van thread ito... hndi lng mga haters na tulad nyo makakita nyan..pati ung mga inosente... or forum po ito.. it must contain not only negative but also positive... kht anung van pa itong forum, there must be balance....

if you have no vested interest why are you so concerned that other people might think negatively of the i-van after reading this thread?

what's it to you?

what do you lose?

why are you affected?

it's gotta be more than your being an Isuzu fanboi

you registered to join tsikot forums just to post in this thread

why? can't stand reading the negative comments here? why?

[mondragon]

ban nyo c uls ngmumura.. mga yan mga wlang gmrc.... dont want those trucks? search mo sa net kung totoo.... kung gagawin ng isuzu japan un, ikasisira din nila un.... common n kasi pare ung mga van lng tlg.. para ms maging flexible, they sought the help of centro.. centro has been making truck bodies for isuzu since 90's.. sumunod dun ung L300... kaya hndi lang almazora sa L300fb, may centro din.. kung pwde nga lang ung nhr flexitruck gawin din nila sa uv express eh.. 23 seat maximum un... dual aircon din.. mas mura sa hi-ace, at konti lng diperensya sa urban.. ms flexible sya.. kc truck.. not like vans na pang tao lng tlg...

like kung ako may flexi truck, sa wikdays ggawin ko pang service sa opisina... pg sabado pwde ako sumideline, delivery ng water... dual purpose... oo, kakagatin ng pinoy ang isuzu kasi they do truly believe the relibility and efficiency na trade mark ng isuzu....

uu maaring resulta nga ng isuzu pinas ang i-van... eh ok nman sa mga hapon ah.. ung mga jap officials nga n nas ipc eh aprub.. u think kung hndi ok sa mga hapon ang ivan.. bakt naproduce db?

[ghosthunter]

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[uls]

post mo lahat gusto mo.... hndi mo ko masusupalpal mr uls...

hindi supalpal goal ko (whatda... what kind of person uses the word supalpal?)

my goal is to expose your agenda here in this thread

and it is being exposed the more you post

[uls]

ban nyo c uls ngmumura.. mga yan mga wlang gmrc.... dont want those trucks? search mo sa net kung totoo.... kung gagawin ng isuzu japan un, ikasisira din nila un.... common n kasi pare ung mga van lng tlg.. para ms maging flexible, they sought the help of centro.. centro has been making truck bodies for isuzu since 90's.. sumunod dun ung L300... kaya hndi lang almazora sa L300fb, may centro din.. kung pwde nga lang ung nhr flexitruck gawin din nila sa uv express eh.. 23 seat maximum un... dual aircon din.. mas mura sa hi-ace, at konti lng diperensya sa urban.. ms flexible sya.. kc truck.. not like vans na pang tao lng tlg...

like kung ako may flexi truck, sa wikdays ggawin ko pang service sa opisina... pg sabado pwde ako sumideline, delivery ng water... dual purpose... oo, kakagatin ng pinoy ang isuzu kasi they do truly believe the relibility and efficiency na trade mark ng isuzu....

uu maaring resulta nga ng isuzu pinas ang i-van... eh ok nman sa mga hapon ah.. ung mga jap officials nga n nas ipc eh aprub.. u think kung hndi ok sa mga hapon ang ivan.. bakt naproduce db?

saan yung mura ko?

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Isuzu Japan HQ doesnt care if the bodies were fabricated in a backyard

all they care about is Isuzu Pinas sell those unwanted 4-brake-drum trucks

big picture -- sell those trucks to the Filipinos... we dont care how just get rid of them

[uls]

Isuzu Japan mababa tingin sa Pinas

Isuzu exports models to the Phils. they couldnt sell elsewhere

they know Filipinos will buy anything Isuzu

the Phils. is a small market with little buying power

Japan first choice is always to sell to countries with bigger markets. countries with lots of buying power. they can make bigger profits in other markets

products they couldnt sell in other countries they dump here

the Phils. is their dumping ground

[OTEP]

Slightly OT:

AFAIK, over the years there are really forum members who work for or are affiliated with various automakers. Boknoyxtrm2001 had ties with Isuzu, Jimbob with GM (need to confirm) and lui with Hyundai. I guess there are others also but I've not been so active in the forums for the last 3 years or so because of work and other things in life. What I can say is despite their obvious ties to their specific brands, they are also aware of the not so good qualities of their specific products as well as that of the company that makes/sells the product. Rabidly protecting a product will not win any customers.

This forum is not a car magazine that relies heavily on advertisers and sponsorship (although doc tsikot and jedi would appreciate that) so we are not at the mercy of car companies or any company for that matter.

Tsikot.com is an online community. And people who have been here long enough know that most folks here who give their opinions and write their reviews just say it how it is since a lot of us (including me) are not directly employed by this community nor are we in the automotive business and have nothing to gain with what we say/write other than to help other community members make informed decisions on their possible vehicle purchases and also to help them out should they have problems with they currently drive.

So let's just call an apple an apple and a spade a spade. The I-Van really isn't a five star effort in itself either by Isuzu or its contractor Centro. Yes, it retains the core values of being heavy duty and of carrying heavy loads. But it also comes up short on the values that people look for in a passenger van. Right now, we are finishing the renovation of my clinic and I'm looking for a small cargo truck to haul the furniture that the carpenter made (Tandang Sora to Manila). Can I cram it inside an I-Van? No, unless you take the seats out. And who likes taking their vehicles apart? I'd rather have a quick release third row seat (like on my father's 13 year old SUV) than need tools to take out the ones in my 17 year old daily driver. Yes, in theory you can configure an I-Van to your heart's (and wallet's) desire. But I tested a unit as what Isuzu will give to you when you go to the dealer with cash in hand. Truth be told, not all of us spend sleepless nights trying to think of how to make our vehicles better, some people would just get what the dealers give them and just live with it (good or bad).

I do not know or have even heard of anyone that uses their vehicle as a shuttle on weekdays then becomes a delivery van on weekends. Siguro lahat naman tayo nagpapahinga din. hehe. And I don't think I'd be hauling 2200kgs of bottled water anytime soon. My point is, there is a reason why the one-box van segment is as successful as it is today. It's because it is a good compromise between a passenger van and a cargo van. If Isuzu wants to think out of the box, then it should make an offering that will make people feel like it was worth thinking outside the box.

Personally, I just think that Isuzu wanted to compete in the mid-prized one box van segment but they had no vehicle available in that segment so they just had a local company make one out of their existing vehicle to save on development costs. Apparently the penny pinching is so glaringly obvious in some areas.

[12vdc]

Ouch! this is the second time i witnessed an isuzu die-hard fanboy na ma i-van.. este i-ban..

The i-van is just another overpriced, poorly constructed, 3rd world passenger-van wannabee from Isuzu.

The other one is an AUV trying to be an SUV..

[kompressor]

Ay, na-ban na pala si Raymund Yutangco a.k.a. mondragon. Kasi naman simpleng text speak, magpapakita pa ng defiance. Tsk tsk tsk.

BTT:

Parang mas gugustihin ko pa yung foton view nung makita ko siya sa market market kagabi. Except for the brand and the pillars exposed sa ceiling, mukhang pwedeng pangharabas and pangkarga ng TAO. Seeing the wrap-around aircon vents (wrap around talaga, covering the front, left and right sides), sana maganda quality nito.

[uls]

ano sabi ni fanboi? kung substandard daw ang katawan ng i-van baket daw inapprove ng Isuzu Pinas execs?

inapprove ng Isuzu Pinas execs coz they think the quality is good enough for Filipinos

again -- GOOD ENOUGH FOR FILIPINOS

alam nila mas mababa ang standard ng pinoy compared sa US or EU or Japan. pwede-na-yan ang attitide ng pinoy. besides, tatak Isuzu naman yung truck so it's more than enough to compensate for the backyard-fabricated body

eto tanong ko -- mabebenta ba ng Isuzu HQ ang i-van sa US, EU, Japan? what do you guys think?

will their governments even allow the i-van to be sold in their markets?

THE I-VAN IS SUBSTANDARD. DEVELOPING WORLD STANDARD. HINDI WORLD CLASS

pang Pinas lang ang i-van. in a country that allows backyard-built jeepneys and tricycles and pedicabs on public roads, the i-van is a luxury vehicle hahaha

ang mali ng Isuzu tingin nila hindi nagbabago ang taste and standards ng pinoy

hey, kita niyo sales ng Hyundai dito? thru the roof

Hyundai is being rewarded for selling us world class motor vehicles

pinoys want world class vehicles

pinoys have high standards when it comes to motor vehicles

kaya meron grey market. kasi meron demand for motor vehicles na di binebenta ng mga casa

Japan automakers should change their perception of Pinas

[uls]

Ay, na-ban na pala si Raymund Yutangco a.k.a. mondragon. Kasi naman simpleng text speak, magpapakita pa ng defiance. Tsk tsk tsk.

tingnan niyo facebook

nagbebenta ng Isuzu

hahahaha

sabi na nga eh

[uls]

BTW

yung mga locally built bodies... which fanboi is so proud of

kita niyo paano kalawangin at mabulok after a few years

kita niyo paano mabulok ang FB bodies ng L300

[ghosthunter]

Ay, na-ban na pala si Raymund Yutangco a.k.a. mondragon. Kasi naman simpleng text speak, magpapakita pa ng defiance. Tsk tsk tsk.

just gave him a day's ban for him to cool off. If you cannot follow the simplest of rules...