Isuzu I-Van Test Drive Report

[kompressor]

and alam naman natin yung NHR chassis alone cost above 1M na. so sana di na pinilit. 1.2++m for that truck van is not worth it IMHO.

Chief, hindi naman ganun kamahal ang NHR chassis kasi plain ladder type chassis lang yun with ancient, truck suited leaf spring suspension. As per Isuzu Philippines, the NHR cab and chassis model with tilt head costs 897k, sabagay 103k lang, 1M na. :D :D :D

http://myclubisuzu.com/clubisuzu/dow...list010212.pdf

NHR NT CC 50A - 905k
NHR NT CC 80A - 925k
NHR MB 80A - 935k
NHR CC Tilt - 897k

Wala lang.



Again I would loooove to see a bubble topped Isuzu como (dual sliding doors please, with body and chassis made by Nissan) fitted with a 4JB1-TC engine, instead of an i-ban.

[mondragon]

mr greenfield.. klaruhin ko lng, hndi ako ahente ah.. may mga specific vehicles din ako gus2 sa ibang brands fyi din.... ok i respect ur experiences sa mga isuzu at canter mo.. pero porke ba wla pa ko driving exp sa isuzu trucks hearsy lahat snsabi ko?hndi b pwde mging testimonial sa mga kakilala ko?or sa mga forwarding services ng govt na halos isuzu lahat?pg sinabi ko ba na naikwento ng kaopismate ko na maasahan tlg ang isuzu trucks eh imbento ko lng un?ksalanan ko ba na karamihan sa mga isuzu owners eh satisfied sa product lalo na sa mga testimonies na nakikita ko sa forums? ung about sa delica hindi paninira un..totoo po un.. sa kasamahan namin sa simbahan.. 2-3 times a year pinapagawa delica nila... at transmission pa.. ms matipid ng konti ang isuzu sa mitsu sa fuel consumption.. one concrete example is ung mga nbasa ko sa mga forums ung adventure vs crosswind... kasi sabi nila dun, adventure uses indirect injection vs direct injection na gamit ng isuzu... my nabasa pa ko sa thread na pg napupuno ang mitsu parang airplane ready for take of daw.. ang isuzu steady lang... mdalas ko makita un sa L300fb.. at the end of the day, is stil respect ur experiences sa mitsu canter at nhr.. di din natin kasalanan kung ms madami mgssabi na normal maintenance lng gnagawa nila sa isuzus nila para mkaabot ng 500-600k kms or up to 1,000,000km sa mga trucks di din natin ksalanan..

likuin ko lng usapan saglit., kelan ba napataob ng mga katapat na show ng eat bulaga (where tvj are hosts) ang eat bulaga mismo?

back to the topic... mas unique kc ung style ng i-van.. they dont need to patern the design mismo ng nissan ang i-van.. ang pwde mo sguro suggest, ung seating arrangement ng urban na 2front seats x 4 , tapos ung dalawang side facing na seat sa rear instead na 4x4 lang sa urban eh gawin 6x6 para 23 seater... maaring matagtag nga kc truck ang isuzu na ito.. pero mbawasan namn cgro ng konti kasi my flexi ride suspension naman...

kayo din nman mr greenfield puro nega ang coment... tapos nagmumura pa kau jan... exxagerated kc mga nega coment nyo... kya ako mjo inaalalayan ko lang... yah nbasa ko nga na drum brakes are cheaper than discs.. but drum brakes are prone to overheating dw.. imagine 1.2m na ang i-van pg dinagdagan p ng puro discs baka dumagdag s presyo haha..
introductory p nmn yan MR.GREEN let's just wait sa mga susunod na kabanata.. in fact dami din nega coment sa ivan lalo na sa clearance at doors..

[mondragon]

kompressor, not only tsikoteers.. there are also other forums... slamat at my mga natutunan din ako.. pero i-van ippromote padin namin yan

[mondragon]

to kompressor, parang kia pregio yang como na pinakita mo.. ms maliit gulong...

[kompressor]

Having read all the discussions here, all I could say is: Good luck Isuzu Philippines! You can all blame us if your truck to i-ban conversion flops big time. After all, we're the customers.


And good luck to the rabid sales agent! I hope you learn more from the inputs of all tsikoteers!

kompressor, not only tsikoteers.. there are also other forums... slamat at my mga natutunan din ako.. pero i-van ippromote padin namin yan

Ang isda ay mahuhuli talaga sa sariling bibig. A slip of the keyboard and he admits being the rabid Isuzu sales agent, as opposed to the denials he made in other replies. This should probably clear things on why the bias towards Isuzu exists.

[kompressor]

to kompressor, parang kia pregio yang como na pinakita mo.. ms maliit gulong...

Don't let the bubble top roof fool your eyes. Those wheels are standard van 14" rims with 185R14C LT tires. Try covering the roof and again visually check the size of the tires/wheels.

Now if you insist using cargo truck tires? Why? It's a people carrier.

[uls]

the i-van sucks. period

Isuzu is using its strong branding here to sell us crap

trying to pass that cheap 4-brake-drum truck with a backyard-fabricated body as a passenger van to compete with the Hiace?

Isuzu is really pushing it

[mondragon]

bhala ka kompressor if ayaw mu maniwala..im not an isuzu agent.im not paid kung bakit bnbgyan ko ng chance ang ivan for the sake of curiosity of others.. kaw nga din bias ka..puro nega ka sa isuzu..kung tutuusin ms madami pang major negative issue sa ibang brand na gumagawa din ng trucks kumpara sa mga minor negative issues ng isuzu..

ngaun if u insists na isuzu agent ako, bahala k sa buhay mo.. im not forcing u all to believe na fan lang din ako tulad nyo.. totoo my ntututunan din aq sa inyo.. at least pwde maadress sa isuzu yan malay natin ms maging ok na ang I-VAN in the next time..

[mondragon]

well mr uls gaya nga ng sabi nyo, pinilit na gwing van ang nhr truck.. pero ms ok n din cgro ung ganung pngyayari..kesa nmn sa mga toyota innova na gnagawang express service... ms hndi design ang inova para gawing people hauler.. may nakita pa ko ung mazda mpv na prang kasing baba ng kotse na ginawa din pang express service.. ang konsuelo ng i-van is higher load capacity and stronger truck chasis....

isuzu cgro dami ngsusuggest na pataasan nila ung ground clearance nila s body part at gwing sliding doors, foldable seats,at 23 seat configuration..un lang gawin nila ms makakacompete na cla sa hi ace at urban... but as for now, urban and hi ace ang mdalas na nakikita natin... malay natin mgkaron din sa terminals nyan.... my mga coments din nmn aq s i-van.. just read it guys...

[niky]

So... tell me... when have you ever seen a "weak" HiAce chassis give out under load?

The HiAce and Urvan are built on a comercial ladder-frame chassis that is not as heavy as the one under the iVan, but which are still strong enough to withstand hundreds of thousands of kilometers of abuse without deformation or buckling. They have to, because they're also used in light commercial cargo duty. (Mind you, I don't even like the UrVan... and I hate the ride of the HiAce).

High ground clearance is a handicap in passenger duty. It makes for more difficult access to the cabin and a less comfortable ride, as the passengers are more exposed to the swaying and movement of the vehicle.

kompressor, not only tsikoteers.. there are also other forums... slamat at my mga natutunan din ako.. pero i-van ippromote padin namin yan

Wahahaha... Sino bang kasama mo sa pag-pro-pro-mote?

At least yung mga ibang sales agent dito, katulad ni lui ay mas makatotohanan. And they can even admit the faults of their products.

You can't even understand the faults, and are promoting them as a feature!

You're promoting it as an enthusiast? As someone who is really enthusiastic about a vehicle he doesn't even own and has never driven? Have you even sat inside one? (I have, was scheduled to test drive, but it didn't push through)

You have never driven the i-VAn, you don't have experience in driving vans, and yet you're happily debating the opinion of one of the most respected tsikoteers, OTEP, who has years of experience driving vans and working trucks?

Yeah. Right.

[uls]

well mr uls gaya nga ng sabi nyo, pinilit na gwing van ang nhr truck.. pero ms ok n din cgro ung ganung pngyayari..kesa nmn sa mga toyota innova na gnagawang express service... ms hndi design ang inova para gawing people hauler.. may nakita pa ko ung mazda mpv na prang kasing baba ng kotse na ginawa din pang express service.. ang konsuelo ng i-van is higher load capacity and stronger truck chasis....

isuzu cgro dami ngsusuggest na pataasan nila ung ground clearance nila s body part at gwing sliding doors, foldable seats,at 23 seat configuration..un lang gawin nila ms makakacompete na cla sa hi ace at urban... but as for now, urban and hi ace ang mdalas na nakikita natin... malay natin mgkaron din sa terminals nyan.... my mga coments din nmn aq s i-van.. just read it guys...

alam mo kahit mag 10,000 posts ka pa sa thread na ito wala ka credibility as far as we're concerned

coz una, you sound like someone paid to defend Isuzu in this thread

pero i-van ippromote padin namin yan

^^ sino namin? mga taga Isuzu Phils.?

dyan palang wala ka na credibility

pangalawa, wala ka hands on experience sa truck. you have never owned a truck or even driven a truck. ano ang na-drive mong Isuzu? Highlander? hahahaha

wala. you got no credibility here

[mondragon]

isuzu auv like hilander and crosswind pa lang para k ng ngddrive ng truck eh.. lam mo pre khit d ka pa nkdrive ng truck tlg kung my nkkausap k nmn ng mga driver ng truck halimbawa sa opis nyo nkpgkwentuhan k s driver kinamusta mu ung handling ng sasakyan, kalagayan atbp., naopen nya sau ganito ganyan.. hndi ba pwde gawing testimony un? iba padin ang mga isuzu trucks.. 50 or more than 50% on the road u see isuzu trucks..the other half can be divided by mitsubishi,hino,nissan diesel,hyundai,etc... it just means a lot are satisfied with isuzu than others..

MR ULS, gaya ng sabi ko, i cannot force u or even the others here na maniwala na hindi aq paid ng isuzu to kahit papanu defend this i-van.. kung ngkataon suzuki fan ako at thread ito halimbawa ng grand vitara at im defending it., ibig sabihin ba agent na agad?bnbyaran na agad? eh ikaw pre., anung japanese brand o china brand ng automotive ka kabilang at sobrang exagg mga negative comments nyo d2? wla nga ko makita na konting positibo mn lang na coment... kahit 1% positive, 99% negative..

porke pala hndi aq nkpgdrive ng truck tlg eh tunog bnbayaran na pala ako.. haha nkktawa kau

[mondragon]

mr niky,
pgksabi ko, i-van has stronger chasis kc truck tlg sya compare sa urban at hi ace.. i'm not saying weak cla.. since truck ang i-van ms higher payload nila... second, sinsabi ko na sna "higher ground clearance ng body part nila"kasi yan din negative comment namin sa i-van..ung truck head mjo mataas ok.. pero ung body part pansin mo , mejo mababa.. delikado mapadaan sa lubak... sna mpataasan pa nila ng konti un..parang ung ground clearance ng hi ace at urban.. tapos gawin sana nilang sliding doors hndi ung parang car-type open doors... tapos ung foldable seats sana.. kc hindi ata nagagalaw ung mga seats... (yan ung mga negative coments namin sa i-van).. bias padin ba?

i respect mr otep naman kahit panu.. ako wla nga exp sa pg drive ng mga truck talaga... (only a highlander-which sabi nga nila drives like a truck) pero sa mga testimony nman ng mga truck drivers na nakakausap mo like sa opis sa mga forwarding services, dun ko nakukuha ung ibang mga sagot ko d2.. aside sa internet..

ngaun kung agent ako ms madami pa sna ako msasabi sa mga faults ng isuzu...(well even other brands has its own ups and downs)..

since ms mahal ng konti itong i-van sa iba.. cgro pa isa isa ang pgpasok nyan sa uv express service.. pero tingin ko meron yan.. van naman un na galing sa truck...

[uls]

isuzu auv like hilander and crosswind pa lang para k ng ngddrive ng truck eh..

hahaha sabi mo yan kasi di ka pa naka drive ng truck

parang virgin na nagsabi alam niya feeling ng totoong *** kasi nagmamasturbate siya

mag drive ka muna ng 20+ feet long na sasakyan

lam mo pre khit d ka pa nkdrive ng truck tlg kung my nkkausap k nmn ng mga driver ng truck halimbawa sa opis nyo nkpgkwentuhan k s driver kinamusta mu ung handling ng sasakyan, kalagayan atbp., naopen nya sau ganito ganyan.. hndi ba pwde gawing testimony un?

mag popost ba tayo dito ng experiences ng mga driver sa mga truck? kung ganun mas madami ako mapopost sayo

pinapaayos dito mga truck na nabili sa amin... puro driver nakakausap ko dito

hindi ito contest ng kung sino mas madami testimony ang mapopost

MR ULS, gaya ng sabi ko, i cannot force u or even the others here na maniwala na hindi aq paid ng isuzu to kahit papanu defend this i-van.. kung ngkataon suzuki fan ako at thread ito halimbawa ng grand vitara at im defending it., ibig sabihin ba agent na agad?bnbyaran na agad? eh ikaw pre., anung japanese brand o china brand ng automotive ka kabilang at sobrang exagg mga negative comments nyo d2? wla nga ko makita na konting positibo mn lang na coment... kahit 1% positive, 99% negative..

kasi mababa tingin ng Isuzu Japan sa Pinas. tinutulak nila dito mga model na di nila mabenta sa ibang bansa. mga di papasa sa standard ng ibang bansa. tingin nila sa basta may tatak Isuzu bibilhin ng pinoy. sa ngayon it still works. pero di na tatagal yan. pinoys already see what Isuzu is doing. the brand image will eventually fade

porke pala hndi aq nkpgdrive ng truck tlg eh tunog bnbayaran na pala ako.. haha nkktawa kau

hinde. hindi ka nakapagdrive ng truck so wala ka credibility para sabihin the best ang Isuzu trucks

magka experience ka muna mag drive ng ibat ibang klaseng truck bago ka mag sabi kung ano the best

ya tunog binabayaran ka. kasi yan ang dating mo

actually mas ok pa kung binabayaran ka talaga... at least you're doing your job

what's more pathetic is you're defending Isuzu's i-van with so much passion without getting paid

you're like a cheerleader for a school team but you don't go to the freaking school

i would understand if you own an i-van and hate it when people say negative things about your beloved i-van

but you don't even own an i-van

you don't even own an Isuzu truck

(at least honda fanbois love civics coz they actually own civics. get my point?)

maybe you have posters of Isuzu trucks on your wall instead of Ferraris and Porsches

dream car mo siguro Isuzu NHR

maybe you dream about Isuzus when you're asleep and daydream about Isuzus when you're awake

whatever

[mondragon]

oo kc praktikal ako..di tulad mo cgro uls na mayaman ka at puro palabas na pera gusto mo.. ako kc hanap ko reliability ng engines at fuel efficient.. khit mjo mabagal at di ganun ka comfort ok lng........ uu dream ko yang isuzu nhr truck with a 23 seating capacity against 19 ng hiace at urban.. may problema? so anu paki mo kung di pa ko naka own ng isuzu truck?does that stop me or others from buying isuzus? kaw cgro porche at fereris gusto mo kc hanggang paporma k lng sa mga tao.. u dont value money.. paimpress kumbaga... kung mali din ung interpretation mo uls bout sa cheerleding na yan.. english english ka pa jan .. dapat ganito.... hndi ako taga lasalle pero ngchecheer ako sa lasalle parang gnun... mali ka din

[mondragon]

db?parang halimbawa ako di ako college grad sa la salle pero if ever my games sila against sa ibang school kumakampi ako sa la salle.. pg may ngmumura o lumalait sa la salle sympre sasbihin ko,, sobra naman kau.. mdami din naman mggaling na atletes jan.. prang ganun.. so uu hndi wla ako isuzu nhr truck o any trucks from isuzu.. but i trust that brand.. sa mas madami na engine reliability at fuel efficient na mga testimonies ng mga tao., mga drivers dun sa opisina regarding sa only trucks na gngamit nila dun..isuzu nhr...

so isuzu i-van thread ito... hndi lng mga haters na tulad nyo makakita nyan..pati ung mga inosente... or forum po ito.. it must contain not only negative but also positive... kht anung van pa itong forum, there must be balance....

this i-van just needs little configuration sa seats,door,ground body clearance.. everything else good.. especially the reliable engine and fuel efficiency.... i think mabbgayan ng chansa itong truck van na 2... e nka mimimwa ne...

[mondragon]

post mo lahat gusto mo.... hndi mo ko masusupalpal mr uls... hndi m lng cgro matanggap na halos karamihan ng truck d2 sa atin isuzu... second na lang yang mitsu,nissan diesel,hino, etc.... post mo lahat d2 wlang pumipigil sau.. ang pagiging #1 truck maker/seller ng isuzu d2 sa atin is mostly based sa mga sales nila.. obviously forward man yan o ung n-series mostly yan makikita mo...

parang kung wala pa ko sasakyan... eh balak kong bumili... gus2 ko ung maasahan na diesel powered.. sympre dami iaadvise sau... my mga streghts and weakness mga yan.. e ksalanan ko din ba kung mas madami hanga sa engine reliability ng isuzu at fuel efficient pa? e kung type ko din bumili ng isuzu eh anu po bibilhin ko,, e di un na... sympre pgbbsehan ko din comment ng karamihan.. dun naman ngssmula un.. sa iba muna mnggaling comments pg karamihan ok, go ka na.. then u go 4 ur own testimony..

sarado kc utak nyo.. porke galing sa iba ung testimony, peke na, wla kwenta... sana consider nyo din....

lastly mr uls, di ko kelangan mgpabayad sa isuzu 4 somehow defending the product.. hndi ko din kau masisisi kung isipin nyo agent ako ng isuzu... bahala kau.... cgro ikaw mr uls agent ka ng anu?mitsu?nissan?toyota? aminin mo din

[ghosthunter]

kompressor, not only tsikoteers.. there are also other forums... slamat at my mga natutunan din ako.. pero i-van ippromote padin namin yan

How can you promote a product that is not even fit to sell as it stands? It would be a major embarrassment to any car company to sell such a SUBSTANDARD product.

And to use "pinoy" as a selling point? Is that trying to say that "pinoys" are also substandard?

[ghosthunter]

post mo lahat gusto mo.... hndi mo ko masusupalpal mr uls... hndi m lng cgro matanggap na halos karamihan ng truck d2 sa atin isuzu... second na lang yang mitsu,nissan diesel,hino, etc.... post mo lahat d2 wlang pumipigil sau.. ang pagiging #1 truck maker/seller ng isuzu d2 sa atin is mostly based sa mga sales nila.. obviously forward man yan o ung n-series mostly yan makikita mo...

parang kung wala pa ko sasakyan... eh balak kong bumili... gus2 ko ung maasahan na diesel powered.. sympre dami iaadvise sau... my mga streghts and weakness mga yan.. e ksalanan ko din ba kung mas madami hanga sa engine reliability ng isuzu at fuel efficient pa? e kung type ko din bumili ng isuzu eh anu po bibilhin ko,, e di un na... sympre pgbbsehan ko din comment ng karamihan.. dun naman ngssmula un.. sa iba muna mnggaling comments pg karamihan ok, go ka na.. then u go 4 ur own testimony..

sarado kc utak nyo.. porke galing sa iba ung testimony, peke na, wla kwenta... sana consider nyo din....

lastly mr uls, di ko kelangan mgpabayad sa isuzu 4 somehow defending the product.. hndi ko din kau masisisi kung isipin nyo agent ako ng isuzu... bahala kau.... cgro ikaw mr uls agent ka ng anu?mitsu?nissan?toyota? aminin mo din

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[ghosthunter]

so isuzu i-van thread ito... hndi lng mga haters na tulad nyo makakita nyan..pati ung mga inosente... or forum po ito.. it must contain not only negative but also positive... kht anung van pa itong forum, there must be balance....

this i-van just needs little configuration sa seats,door,ground body clearance.. everything else good.. especially the reliable engine and fuel efficiency.... i think mabbgayan ng chansa itong truck van na 2... e nka mimimwa ne...

The Isuzu I-Van was launched in JULY 2011. If the problem was just "needing little configuration" then why is it more than six months later and the "minor" problems would still exist on a retail unit?

If ISUZU was such a No.1 truck company, why doesn't it's product reflect it?

This is not a hater's questions. This is the questions of ANY DECENT PERSON.

If someone criticizes the vehicle, it's not about hate. It is about that person's expectations about the product from (what you claim to be) the Philippine's No.1 truck company.