Crosswind XTO ilang beses na nasita dahil sa usok

**ramledi** · February 6th, 2010 11:56 AM

dito sa amin php125/nozzle ang cleaning

sa walco php1800/pc ang nozzle yung 152(standard/oem)

**weisshorn** · February 6th, 2010 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by ramledi

white smoke means unburned diesel. baka madumi lang ang air filter o baka kailangan lang ng injector cleaning or calibration na nga. unahin mo muna ang air filter(linis or palitan mo na, mura lang naman), kung mausok pa rin then injector cleaning at kung mausok pa rin calibration na.

Sang-ayon ako dito. Unahin muna ang mas mura ang gasto.
1. Change air filter. 250+ pesos lang po ito.
2. Change fuel filter, kailan ka huling nag palit?

Mausok ng puti pa rin?
1. Check injectors possible meron dyan barado/kulang ang butas. Pwede mo luwagan ang injector high pressure pipe isa-isa habang umaandar, bale "air bleed na rin". observe kung parehas ang epekto sa andar ng makina. Dapat magmenor ang andar pag niluwagan ang isa, pag meron halos hindi nagbago ang particular injector ay may deperensya.

2. Nagbabawas ng langis na maputi halos blue narin ang kulay na usok? Check valve seal ng intake exhaust valves baka meron dyan sira/leaking oil punta sa combustion chamber.

Ung white smoke should be gone by 4-5 mins or kapag uminit na ung engine.

[quote]si sir Xwind and rsnald my calibration instruction i had it printed and stored a copy sa XTO ko. di ko pa nagagawa kasi di talaga ako marunong. i asked my dad's trusted Mechanic, di naman na daw kailangan un ang sabi sakin.[/unquote]

Calibration po ay ginagawa lang sa calibration shop na may fuel injector calibration/test pump. Bale check lang ang opening pressure ng injector (ito ang pressure na umpisa mag spray ng fuel ang nozzle say 130 Bar) and check spray pattern, dapat atomized ang buga ng krudo.

Mukhang bulok ang sagot ng mekaniko nyo. Ang fuel injectors ay routine/regular na kina-calibrate para ma maintain ang ideal engine performance. wear & tear ng injector parts ay normal na panggalingan ng failure e.g. weak spring, over sized nozzle holes, loose needle valve, incorrect angle of spray just to mention some. Hindi naman porke recalibrate ay palit nozzle kaagad, palit lang pag may defect. Kung meron kang calibration pump pwede mo gawin ito.

[quote]Black smoke means unburned diesel. Masyadong rich ang fuel:air mixture. white smoke is something else.[/unquote]

White smoke means more air less fuel.

**scharnhorst** · February 6th, 2010 01:18 PM

Black smoke means unburned diesel. Masyadong rich ang fuel:air mixture. white smoke is something else.

http://www.uniteddiesel.co.uk/diesel-engine-smoke.php

ask Dieseldude dun sa workshop subforum

**weisshorn** · February 8th, 2010 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by deucewa

try mo muna kung sobra ang lagay ng oil sa motor mo. nangyari yan sa akin, talagang puti ang lumalabas.

Yes, yes. Check mo baka mataas ang level ng crankcase oil. Pag sobra ang langis mai-splash ito sa cylinder wall ng sobrang dami at ang iba ay sasama sa exhaust gas palabas, may pagka-blue ang usok nito.

**butirog** · February 10th, 2010 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by weisshorn

Yes, yes. Check mo baka mataas ang level ng crankcase oil. Pag sobra ang langis mai-splash ito sa cylinder wall ng sobrang dami at ang iba ay sasama sa exhaust gas palabas, may pagka-blue ang usok nito.

With regard to the number of liters of engine oil an XTO crosswind can take. i was advised mga 5 liters daw ang kelangan ilagay. but serveral people posted 4 liters lang.

Yesterday i did a change oil then 4 liters lang nilagay ko but i purchased 5 liters... so just in case 5 talaga idadagdag ko na agad later. just to be sure.

**4JGtootsie** · February 10th, 2010 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by butirog

With regard to the number of liters of engine oil an XTO crosswind can take. i was advised mga 5 liters daw ang kelangan ilagay. but serveral people posted 4 liters lang.

Yesterday i did a change oil then 4 liters lang nilagay ko but i purchased 5 liters... so just in case 5 talaga idadagdag ko na agad later. just to be sure.

It will depend kung nagpalit ng oil filter, if yes you need more oil. If oil filter retained less oil.

Peeps be careful putting too much oil as required. Aside from diesel, engine oil can also be fuel. Its possible that the engine will run (at high rpm) even if ignition turned off because it uses engine oil as fuel.

**butirog** · February 10th, 2010 12:56 PM

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Yep i replaced the oil filter as well. so approximately do i need to add 1 more liter of oil?

Kasi last time i had my oil changed sa Rapide' and i believe they filled it with 5 liters of oil. medjo short ako ngaun so ako na muna ang naglagay. exclusive kasi sila sa ACDelco na parts, pati ung oil filter. i was told VIC daw ung isa na maganda na alternative for the filter so un din ang nilagay ko.

So ngaun 4 liters ang nasa engine ko, how much more ang idadagdag ko.

**jaz014** · February 10th, 2010 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by butirog

*[SIZE=5]4JGtootsie[/SIZE]
Yep i replaced the oil filter as well. so approximately do i need to add 1 more liter of oil?

Kasi last time i had my oil changed sa Rapide' and i believe they filled it with 5 liters of oil. medjo short ako ngaun so ako na muna ang naglagay. exclusive kasi sila sa ACDelco na parts, pati ung oil filter. i was told VIC daw ung isa na maganda na alternative for the filter so un din ang nilagay ko.

So ngaun 4 liters ang nasa engine ko, how much more ang idadagdag ko.

sir butirog...4 liters is sufficient na for our 4JA1...but to check the oil level is on max line on dip stick...check mo morning not yet cranked the engine on a level surface...hugutin mo dipstick then remove the oil on it using a rag then i-dip mo ulit at hugot then check mo oil level mo kung nasa below/max/ or above IMHO mas madali magdagdag kesa magbawas....kung below ka sa max unti unti lang ang pagsalin mo and check palagi ang level after magsalin...may drain bolt ang 4JA1 natin sa ilalim ng oil filter natin..kapag hindi natin ito natanggal meron dito naiiwan na oil even magpalit tayo ng oil filter..kindly check the users manual for this drain plug...

**butirog** · February 11th, 2010 11:46 AM

Thanks sir jaz014, yeah i'll do that. thanks for the Advice. Mukang mag stay muna si Ecto 2 (crosswind) named him after sa Ghostbusters chopper. Inclined kasi ung garage namin eh. bout sa drain bolt i havent seen that. ung typical lang na nasa oil reservior na drain plug nakita ko. anyway i tried blowing away the oil using the air compressor that we have to drain any left oil in the engine. then after Labatiba mode ng exhaust. kaya game na sa mga anti-smoke belching team dito sa makati...hehehe

**jaz014** · February 11th, 2010 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by butirog

Thanks sir jaz014, yeah i'll do that. thanks for the Advice. Mukang mag stay muna si Ecto 2 (crosswind) named him after sa Ghostbusters chopper. Inclined kasi ung garage namin eh. bout sa drain bolt i havent seen that. ung typical lang na nasa oil reservior na drain plug nakita ko. anyway i tried blowing away the oil using the air compressor that we have to drain any left oil in the engine. then after Labatiba mode ng exhaust. kaya game na sa mga anti-smoke belching team dito sa makati...hehehe

no problem sir...yun drain bolt sir ng filter ay nasa ilalim ng oil filter natin if im not mistaken 24 or 21 yung size nun basta malaki yun bolt nya compare to the drain plug sa oil pan natin...kung DIY oil change kayo mas maganda galing sa run ang crosswind natin and within normal temp range...kung meron kayo wilkins na container yung 6 liters cut one side with a hole (platito size) para nakahiga yun at kasya sa ilalim ng ride natin...then slowly loosen the plug and be careful kasi hot yung oil at magsplat sa floor nyo...remove oil filler cap para mas bumilis ang drop ng oil...usually sa night ko gawa ito and let it stay there for overnight...minsan tilt ko pa driver side with a jack para lumabas lahat ng old oil...then sa morning change filter tapos plug the oil pan tapos salin na ng engine oil to the max level and top up if needed...the known problem lang if you are from manila is yung disposal ng used oil...kasi yung sa akin eh hinihingi pa nung brother in-law ko at ginagamit pa sa 4BA1 engine jeepney namin...take note Isuzu din yun..kahit gamit na oil ayos na ayos pa din daw...kasi daw minsan yung jeep nila every 6 months lang magchangeoil tapos minsan ayaw ng pumatak sa drain kasi nagsludge or nagputik na sa tagal ng oil change but still ginagamit everyday at very reliable...that is how isuzu engine is known for bullet proof talaga...