Crosswind Rear Suspension

[skidmarkharvey]

Do the KYB Gas-A-Just shocks really make a difference sa smoothness ng ride?
I own a 2003 Isuzu Crosswind XUV. Super tagtag sa likod. Current tire pressure is 30psi sa front and 34psi sa rear. I called Isuzu and they told me na 2005 up models lang daw ang may flex ride suspension at oil-filled shock absorbers pa ang nakalagay sa 2003 model. They also told me na hindi parin magiging smooth and ride ko kahit palitan ng gas-filled shocks, kahit monotube raw i.e. KYB Gas-A-Just kasi useless pag hindi palitan ang leafsprings ko. If the leafsprings are stiff, useless magswitch to gas-filled shocks.

Is this true? Anyone who can confirm this?

Thank you very much.

[niky]

Yeah, I've got Rancho 9000 (9-way) shocks, and it's very hard to dial the ride right.

A proper suspension balance means that your tire pressure, spring stiffness and shock damping should all match perfectly... and since then don't match at all on the Crosswind as stock, getting them to approximately the right position is an exercise in futility.

Reverse one spring, but leave in snubbers (or whatever the heck they're called) so that it still supports the extra weight when you're carrying heavy loads. But you'll need to upgrade shocks. The stock shocks suck, no two ways about it.

A low tire pressure won't help, either. Too little pressure and it'll just accentuate the bounciness... I figure 30-32 should be just about right.

[skidmarkharvey]

Thanks for the insight niky.

Are there any KYB dealers in Cebu na merong KYB Gas-A-Just shocks for a 2003 Crosswind?

Old Man Emu shocks magkano kaya? Any dealers in Cebu?

[s_quilicot]

Yeah, I've got Rancho 9000 (9-way) shocks, and it's very hard to dial the ride right.

A proper suspension balance means that your tire pressure, spring stiffness and shock damping should all match perfectly... and since then don't match at all on the Crosswind as stock, getting them to approximately the right position is an exercise in futility.

Reverse one spring, but leave in snubbers (or whatever the heck they're called) so that it still supports the extra weight when you're carrying heavy loads. But you'll need to upgrade shocks. The stock shocks suck, no two ways about it.

A low tire pressure won't help, either. Too little pressure and it'll just accentuate the bounciness... I figure 30-32 should be just about right.

comfort shocks ba ito rs9000? did you get the remote controled one?

[niky]

Sorry, don't know about Cebu dealers.

Nope, didn't get the controller. Pretty useless for us... we just tune it to one setting and leave it there. If I were an off-roader, I might consider it, but for daily use, the remote is overkill.

The Rancho 9000s aren't "comfort" shocks per se. They won't make up for the bumpiness caused by stiff leaf springs or big tires. But they help to smooth out the suspension motion to lessen car sickness caused by these. ;)

[Gerbo]

To continue the thread......

Which is now better the Rancho or the Bilstein? Somebody just also consider gas-adjust shocks for the rear.....been considering to tinker and replacing the OEM shocks.

[jraf_zams2]

Probably to cure body sway... not sure. Some off-roaders use a stabilizer link in a similar location.

But if it's linking the leaf-springs... doesn't the solid axle do that already? ???

Meron ako nakitang stabilizer bar dito sa mindanao. Nakalagay doon sa likurang ilalim ng Crosswind. Nakita ko rin kasi yong design ng bagong everest ngayon na meron din silang stabilizer bar sa likod. Its a U-shape bar. Palagay ko meron din yan sa manila na mas mura pa. Baka meron naman makapag-suggest kung san nakakabili noon dyan sa manila. Nagtanong ako dito sa isuzu davao sabi nila isa yon sa mga accessories ng crosswind. I think malaki talaga yong magiging tulong nito sa sasakyan lalo na sa mga curves.

[celi_bate]

Thanks for the insight niky.

Are there any KYB dealers in Cebu na merong KYB Gas-A-Just shocks for a 2003 Crosswind?

Old Man Emu shocks magkano kaya? Any dealers in Cebu?

Just got back from banawe, have an isuzu xuvi 2003, changed the rear shocks becuz the stock ones were leaking. Got the KYB gas shock absorbers (they cost me 1,400 each). Also got the rear lifted using hangers which cost me 1800 for both including labor. Just so i dont forget (and because no one here really puts up the price) changed my front tires at michelin the fort, they cost 5400 each. Changed my alarm din in banawe which cost 2000 (the stock alarm is loud, annoying and rattles my wife everytime i set it on). The only thing i think that helped with making the ride smoother was i had nitrogen placed in my tires instead of air at michelin. It costs 100 per tire and i can go back if ever the tire gets soft for free. There they recommended all tires at 30psi, and it myt be psychological but i feel there is a slight improvement. Got HIDs din na china lang, they cost me 5k for both, its been about 2 years na and so far so good.

[tata_ismael]

reviving this thread..

guys, baka meron gustong magpost ng updates or modifications ng crosswind suspensions nyo jan?

pictures sana kung meron.. :D

Thanks!

[acergy09]

ahhh...I see...kaya pala bago ako bumili nung sportivo 2005 ko...yun ang madalas kong mabasa o madinig,about the bad suspension...pero nung magamit ko na yung sportivo 2005 model ko,kabaligtaran pala lahat....kasi napakasarap naman pala sa rough road...kaya yun,bumigay na din yung shocks ko...di ko naalagaan...sarap kasi parabasin sa batsi,hehe...madalas kasi ang byahe ng bicol-manila...kung minsan dyan sa parteng quezon province,grabe ang rough road...nakakainip naman magpabagal,kasi malayo pa ang byahe...

[x-wind]

Alin mas ok KYB N fluid or gas Type

[x-wind]

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553177 - Front (but much longer of 5cm to original Shock)
553108 - Back ( same size)

[ferddie]

Hi Ask ko lang po sana.

May effect po ba sa sasakyan pag yun isang side ng leaf spring nadurog yun spacer between the two leaves or ok lang kahit wala?

Ito yun may spacer sa gitna ng leaf sa driver side.


Ito yun sa kabila na nadurog na ata from wear and tear.


3+yrs old pa lang yun sasakyan namin.

[ice15]

Hi Ask ko lang po sana.

May effect po ba sa sasakyan pag yun isang side ng leaf spring nadurog yun spacer between the two leaves or ok lang kahit wala?

Ito yun may spacer sa gitna ng leaf sa driver side.


Ito yun sa kabila na nadurog na ata from wear and tear.


3+yrs old pa lang yun sasakyan namin.

Baka umingay yung suspension since metal to metal sya.

Although may times na di mo pansin since naka-AC naman palagi

[nelyoung]

Just got back from banawe, have an isuzu xuvi 2003, changed the rear shocks becuz the stock ones were leaking. Got the KYB gas shock absorbers (they cost me 1,400 each). Also got the rear lifted using hangers which cost me 1800 for both including labor. Just so i dont forget (and because no one here really puts up the price) changed my front tires at michelin the fort, they cost 5400 each. Changed my alarm din in banawe which cost 2000 (the stock alarm is loud, annoying and rattles my wife everytime i set it on). The only thing i think that helped with making the ride smoother was i had nitrogen placed in my tires instead of air at michelin. It costs 100 per tire and i can go back if ever the tire gets soft for free. There they recommended all tires at 30psi, and it myt be psychological but i feel there is a slight improvement. Got HIDs din na china lang, they cost me 5k for both, its been about 2 years na and so far so good.

Yes, I can confirm that filling nitrogen on your tires does help the dampening effect. Maski +5 psi pa yung kinarga sa tires ko, ok pa rin ang 40psi kaya di ko na pinabawasan kasi malambot pa rin sya.

[ferddie]

Baka umingay yung suspension since metal to metal sya.

Although may times na di mo pansin since naka-AC naman palagi

pero in terms of performance wala naman problem? or long term effects?

[ice15]

pero in terms of performance wala naman problem? or long term effects?

performance wala... pero minsan nakakainis yung ingay, especialy kapag kaka-lusong sa baha - as in halos nakaka-hiya na

long term effects? how long? - wala akong naaalalang passenger jeep/bus na may spacer sa leaf spring.

[ice15]

*easy fix... lagyan mo ng rubber

[dr. d]

*easy fix... lagyan mo ng rubber

papano po?

[StockEngine]

Hi Ask ko lang po sana.

May effect po ba sa sasakyan pag yun isang side ng leaf spring nadurog yun spacer between the two leaves or ok lang kahit wala?

Ito yun may spacer sa gitna ng leaf sa driver side.


Ito yun sa kabila na nadurog na ata from wear and tear.


3+yrs old pa lang yun sasakyan namin.

Weird how that doesnt have shackles like those of newer pickups...