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    #61
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Which one did you see on tsikot?

    There's only one for sale locally, Devil's Own, and it has been proven on the dyno to really work.

    Problem is, it takes experimentation and tuning to find the best alcohol mixture, nozzle size and activation point or curve. Worst case scenario, you only gain 5 hp, which isn't very noticeable, on non-turbo vehicles or vehicles with low-pressure turbos and with the weakest mixture (which is pure water)... Best case scenario, about 20-30 hp, with tuning, on a high pressure system.

    But, like I said, it takes a lot of fiddling to get best results. I'm not too happy with the results on my turbo Crosswind. The dyno shows gains, but they're small (5 hp, but all throughout). That's because my turbo makes a pathetic 5-6 psi of boost. On other diesel turbos, which can do up to 30-40 psi, the gains are much greater.

    I have a Unichip on my gasoline Lynx. Biggest bang for the buck modification I've ever done. About 10-20 hp gains all throughout the powerband (on a 140 hp motor, that's immense), and the midrange gains it gives you makes you much faster than an unchipped car in the real world. I got mine at Speedlab.

    There are many different chips, and some of the UK ones are terrific, but if I were you, I'd pick one with local tech support, so you can have it fixed or adjusted if you're unhappy with it. The cheapest locally for diesels (that actually work and are backed by testing) are the VTECH Redbox and the Unichip.
    Good day chief Niky.

    Where can i buy the Unichip in Metro Manila?

    Thanks heaps for the help!

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    #62
    had my ride installed with dpchip. i gained 29hp at the wheels. not at the crank nor engine. pretty big. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by solomondavid View Post
    had my ride installed with dpchip. i gained 29hp at the wheels. not at the crank nor engine. pretty big. :D

    Good day chief! Thanks for the input re DP Chip.

    How much did it cost you to have it installed?

    What's your diesel ride?

    Kind regards.

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    #64
    Quote Originally Posted by hinDMaxsiado View Post
    Good day chief Niky.

    Where can i buy the Unichip in Metro Manila?

    Thanks heaps for the help!
    Unichip can be bought at Speedlab, located at Quezon Avenue. Its situated opposite to Pegasus, and is near Honda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Toyota and Mazda Quezon Avenue.

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    #65
    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Unichip can be bought at Speedlab, located at Quezon Avenue. Its situated opposite to Pegasus, and is near Honda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Toyota and Mazda Quezon Avenue.
    Thanks heaps GTi

    P30k is it as i read it....

    Kind regards.

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    #66
    Quote Originally Posted by hinDMaxsiado View Post

    Good day chief! Thanks for the input re DP Chip.

    How much did it cost you to have it installed?

    What's your diesel ride?

    Kind regards.
    50k for a ford everest. havent tried other dynos yet. i bet i can get a "higher" reading on other dynos as compared to berrima's

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    #67
    Good day gentlemen.

    If it's not much of a trouble, could someone kindly direct me where in this site a comparo between the DPChip and Unichip was done, if any?
    ....As far as i know the DPChip has 9 pre-programmed settings, is also programmable at the same time, sorta plug-and-play, and cost PhP60,000 including dyno readings while i'm not quite familiar with the Unichip except that it cost only PhP30,000 as per good guy GTi's advice, that is really hard to pass up cost-wise, thus also the interest to know more about it

    Thanks heaps and i trust that everything is well with you all.

    Kind regards.

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    #68
    Quote Originally Posted by solomondavid View Post
    50k for a ford everest. havent tried other dynos yet. i bet i can get a "higher" reading on other dynos as compared to berrima's
    Mabuhay ka chief haring Solomon!

    Kidding aside, thanks heaps for this great advice

    Kind regards.

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    #69
    The DPchip has 9 settings, what if you set it at 9 then get check engine light when WOT? then if you set it at 4 you wont get check engine light when WOT? do you get a 50% discount? just wondering since you wont be able to ultilize the full potential of the chip?

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    #70
    Quote Originally Posted by ARB View Post
    The DPchip has 9 settings, what if you set it at 9 then get check engine light when WOT? then if you set it at 4 you wont get check engine light when WOT? do you get a 50% discount? just wondering since you wont be able to ultilize the full potential of the chip?
    afaik, the 30k unichip is done via splice method hence voiding your vehicles warranty. they also have a plug and play version for also 50k. dp chip 60k with tuning. 9 presets can be tuned/fine tuned also to satisfy your needs. :D

    1-8 channels has maps already, the 9th setting will do have a check engine light warning because it doesnt have the maps needed to alter the parameters.

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    #71
    Quote Originally Posted by hinDMaxsiado View Post
    Mabuhay ka chief haring Solomon!

    Kidding aside, thanks heaps for this great advice

    Kind regards.
    they also have a 30 day money back guarantee. just dont let the dyno disappoint you. by my experience, i was disappointed by the my dyno readings not knowing it reads by the wheels, but the feel is totally different. imho mainline dyno is one of the most accurate dyno we have here. why spend 12M pesos on an inaccurate dyno right? iirc, there are only three of its kind. one is with berrima, the other is in australia and the last one is with ford.

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    #72
    Quote Originally Posted by solomondavid View Post
    they also have a 30 day money back guarantee. just dont let the dyno disappoint you. by my experience, i was disappointed by the my dyno readings not knowing it reads by the wheels, but the feel is totally different. imho mainline dyno is one of the most accurate dyno we have here. why spend 12M pesos on an inaccurate dyno right? iirc, there are only three of its kind. one is with berrima, the other is in australia and the last one is with ford.
    Thanks a lot chief for the great info!

    AND no worries, i understand what you meant by wheel-hp, which is actually ps or metric-hp by DIN standards.




    Assuming 15% parasitic loss (friction loss) from the engine down to the transmission to the wheels, this is much likely the scenario on the DMax iTEQ VGS stock-trim or factory specs....

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    #73
    Quote Originally Posted by solomondavid View Post
    they also have a 30 day money back guarantee. just dont let the dyno disappoint you. by my experience, i was disappointed by the my dyno readings not knowing it reads by the wheels, but the feel is totally different. imho mainline dyno is one of the most accurate dyno we have here. why spend 12M pesos on an inaccurate dyno right? iirc, there are only three of its kind. one is with berrima, the other is in australia and the last one is with ford.
    If you want to be technical about it, no dyno is truly "accurate". Berrima's just reads lower because that's what it does.

    What matters with a dyno is repeatability and consistency... in which case, the most "accurate" dyno, by these standards is the Dynapack used by Autotechnicka, which isn't affected by extraneous factors like tire slip and vehicle mounting.

    "Most expensive" doesn't necessarily mean "best."

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    And yes, a low reading doesn't mean anything. All that matters is how much more your reading is compared to the stock configuration. ;)

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #74
    I'm very curious about the Dynapack as well, having read about their dyno. Compared to roller dynos the variables of the wheels/tires and how tightly the car is strapped is eliminated. I wonder if the Autotechnicka dyno has a weather station like Berrima's Mainline though.
    Last edited by Wh1stl3r; March 29th, 2011 at 06:18 PM.

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    WOW guys!

    Just inquired at Speedlab and all cost-in for the Unichip installation, fine-tuning, and dynamometer runs is PhP30,000

    Our Isuzu DMax Ddi-iTEQ engines (4JJ1-TC "standard") are "OK" with the Unichip according to the techy guys thereat, BUT not the older 4JH1-TC (those ones with the "TD Intercooler" emblem just like our 2004 DMax).

    I'm "STOKED" with the Unichip for starters, and who knows, we might even go for Level "2" mods the next time around while Isuzu Philippines continues to deprive us Pinoys from having the "BETTER 4JJ1-TCX" engine ahihi

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    #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    I'm very curious about the Dynapack as well, having read about their dyno. Compared to roller dynos the variables of the wheels/tires and how tightly the car is strapped is eliminated. I wonder if the Autotechnicka dyno has a weather station like Berrima's Mainline though.
    All dynos (or all that I have seen) have temperature, pressure and humidity readouts... helps to apply SAE atmospheric corrections to dyno readouts.

    Though there is some controversy about applying SAE corrections to dynos of newer electronically controlled turbocharged engines... as they adjust themselves for weather conditions already. For example, the Nissan GT-R consistently produces the same power on certain dynos in different weather conditions, but with wildly varying levels of boost... as it adjusts automatically for the conditions.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #77
    From one DMax Ddi-iTEQ owner....


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    Quote Originally Posted by hinDMaxsiado View Post
    From one DMax Ddi-iTEQ owner....


    hayop sa ganda ah

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    #79
    we have a promo price of 50,000 pesos for the DPChip and this includes installation at our workshop in Mandaluyong where we will make any fine tuning adjustments needed to set the chip up for your specific vehicle. The price also includes before and after dyno runs which will show you the actual improvement.

    We dyno the vehicle when you first bring it to the workshop to get the standard power figures then once we have fitted the chip with dyno again to get the improved power figures and we give this to you at the end in a printed version similar to those found here http://www.diesel.asia/dyno.html.

    Also check our Facebook link http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Mandaluyong-Philippines/Berrima-Diesel-Services-The-Diesel-Expert-Philippines-/114636385254421?ref=ts&__a=14&ajaxpipe=1

    To book in for fitting simply phone our office on the numbers below. If the phone line is busy please try again later.

    Also have a look at www.dpchip.com/faq.html for answers to some common questions.[SIZE=3] [/SIZE]
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    While some dynos may give weather data it is then up to the operator to do the calculations to correct for differences in weather at a later date. Make no mistake these things can have a huge effect on dyno readings from one day to the next. I'd be surprised to see the data from the Nissan GT-R I know of no vehicle that is uneffected by weather and temperature conditions and Im not sure how the vehicle adjusts itself as you claim. This is why vehicles tuned at sea level will often run differently at altitude and visca versa. You will find that even running the vehicle on the dyno a few times you will begin to get variations in data as the engine heats up. Often best to let it cool a little between runs if you are doing multiple runs.

    Our dyno has a built in weather station and makes the adjustements at time of testing so data is comparable at a later date regardless of weather fluctuations, which can be large in Philippines particularly if a typhoon is about air pressure can change dramatically.

    Anyway, have a look at the info on our dyno here: http://www.diesel.asia/dyno.html#1

    And also havfe a read of some of the info on the manufacturers website: http://www.mainlineauto.com.au/produ...dyno/index.htm

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    Originally posted by Niki
    All dynos (or all that I have seen) have temperature, pressure and humidity readouts... helps to apply SAE atmospheric corrections to dyno readouts.

    Though there is some controversy about applying SAE corrections to dynos of newer electronically controlled turbocharged engines... as they adjust themselves for weather conditions already. For example, the Nissan GT-R consistently produces the same power on certain dynos in different weather conditions, but with wildly varying levels of boost... as it adjusts automatically for the conditions.
    Last edited by Berrima Diesel; May 23rd, 2011 at 03:07 PM. Reason: quote for relevance

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