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    #581
    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    then you shouldn't be here
    i didn't realize only positive comments on the mu are allowed here..

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    Some people here seem to think that power and torque only equates to top speeds and 0-100 times, and therefore not important as long as one can get to 100kph which is the legal hiway speed. But there are many uses of higher power and torque other than "getting to hiway speed" and hauling cargo and people. Take for example overtaking on a 2-lane road. One can not just go on the opposite lane knowing that the engine on his vehicle is not up to the job. Or how about going up on an incline from a stand still, fully loaded and in traffic! Do that with a mediocre engine (read, meager low end torque) and the guy behind you will be honking his horn mad as hell. Isuzu engines are known for very good low end grunt, which satisfies the latter case stated above. But to say that its performance is comparable to engines with better specs will be an outright lie. Between the MU-X and a Trailblazer I'd bet my life on the TB if I will be overtaking a 3-trailer long convoy of San Miguel beer trucks going up MacArthur along Rosario with a Solid North or 5 Star bus coming fast in the opposite lane! Yes sir, 200hp beats 136hp when you're overtaking!
    Last edited by yebo; September 16th, 2014 at 09:24 AM.

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    #583
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Some people here seem to think that power and torque only equates to top speeds and 0-100 times, and therefore not important as long as one can get to 100kph which is the legal hiway speed. But there are many uses of higher power and torque other than "getting to hiway speed" and hauling cargo and people. Take for example overtaking on a 2-lane road. One can not just go on the opposite lane knowing that the engine on his vehicle is not up to the job. Or how about going up on an incline from a stand still, fully loaded and in traffic! Do that with a mediocre engine (read, meager low end torque) and the guy behind you will be honking his horn mad as hell. Isuzu engines are known for very good low end grunt, which satisfies the latter case stated above. But to say that its performance is comparable to engines with better specs will be an outright lie. Between the MU-X and a Trailblazer I'd bet my life on the TB if I will be overtaking a 3-trailer long convoy of San Miguel beer trucks going up MacArthur along Rosario with a Solid North or 5 Star bus coming fast in the opposite lane! Yes sir, 200hp beats 136hp when you're overtaking!
    i agree.
    if all we do with our cars is to pull heavy loads up an incline, then torque is what we need.
    if what we aspire for is top speed, then it's HP.
    but in the real world, we need a bit of both..
    and while the specs are there on paper for everyone to peruse and compare, nothing beats actual driving to "see for ourselves"..

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    #584
    San may testdrive? Yung 4x2 at

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    #585
    Can we invite dtk**o. Para meron scientific explanation as regards HP and torque. :D
    I'm serious.

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    #586
    Quote Originally Posted by gundam View Post
    Can we invite dtk**o. Para meron scientific explanation as regards HP and torque. :D
    I'm serious.
    Nako. Sobrang talino nun non sense na

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    #587
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i didn't realize only positive comments on the mu are allowed here..
    It's not a comparison thread anyway. saka nakakasawa na ring basahin na mas malakas ang torque at hp ni TBZ alam na nating lahat yun pero some people keep posting it.
    Last edited by Syuryuken; September 16th, 2014 at 10:33 AM.

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    #588
    Reliability imho...

    Yes many will say parepareho naman na reliable or unreliable ang mga ssakyan ngayon but based on experience....and jusy MY opinion, the japs still tops them all. Its just me.

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    #589
    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    then you shouldn't be here
    You won't realize the ups and downs of your vehicle if there's no negative comments. Bias naman yung puro praise na lang. We need to see the other side of it particularly sa mga aspiring buyers.kaya nga may forum di ba.

    And also para mabasa din ito ng car manufacturers for them to do better.no offense.this is just a critic.

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    #590
    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    then you shouldn't be here
    Why is that?

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    #591
    When I went up to Baguio before, there were a lot of old school diesel vehicles like Crosswind, Adventure, L300 & Urvan climbing up McArthur Highway that I passed.

    The worse was the Commuter. Akala mo race car ang dina drive nung driver. Pina una ko na, baka madisgrasya pa ako pero ung GS VGT ayaw patalo. Kung tutukan niya ung GS grabe, hindi makalayo ung GS. I don't know if they are in a convoy or nagri race lang but I was thinking na siguro hilong hilo na ang sakay ng mga vans na un.

    If those vehicles can climb Baguio with no problem, and their hp didn't even reach 136 hp, the Commuter only has 102 hp, I think the MU-X will do just fine. Maganda naman ang torque niya which is 320 Nm * 1800-2800 rpm.

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    #592
    Quote Originally Posted by rna800 View Post
    When I went up to Baguio before, there were a lot of old school diesel vehicles like Crosswind, Adventure, L300 & Urvan climbing up McArthur Highway that I passed.

    The worse was the Commuter. Akala mo race car ang dina drive nung driver. Pina una ko na, baka madisgrasya pa ako pero ung GS VGT ayaw patalo. Kung tutukan niya ung GS grabe, hindi makalayo ung GS. I don't know if they are in a convoy or nagri race lang but I was thinking na siguro hilong hilo na ang sakay ng mga vans na un.

    If those vehicles can climb Baguio with no problem, and their hp didn't even reach 136 hp, the Commuter only has 102 hp, I think the MU-X will do just fine. Maganda naman ang torque niya which is 320 Nm * 1800-2800 rpm.
    sabi nila kulang pa daw yung hp at torque ng Mu-X

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    #593
    mga sir,alin ba mas bang for the buck sa dalawa between Isuzu MU-X na php.1.358m at chevyTRAILBLAZER LTX na php.1.588m. ito kasing dalawa pinagpipilian ko na I loan this coming December?

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    #594
    Curious lang, ilan kaya dito ang pinupuno anv kanilang ride on a regular basis. Parang pang karera ang comparison.


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    #595
    Quote Originally Posted by brodjason View Post
    mga sir,alin ba mas bang for the buck sa dalawa between Isuzu MU-X na php.1.358m at chevyTRAILBLAZER LTX na php.1.588m. ito kasing dalawa pinagpipilian ko na I loan this coming December?
    For those two it boils down to the engine. If you feel that 64 hp is worth an extra Php 230,000 on top, then go for the TB.

    Me, i'd chip the MU-x for the extra 20% for only 35 thou. After warranty, of course. ^^

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    #596
    thanks bro.naisip ko din yung 230,000 na price diference,pambili na din ng accessories yon o kaya racechip.

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    #597
    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomer123 View Post
    For those two it boils down to the engine. If you feel that 64 hp is worth an extra Php 230,000 on top, then go for the TB.

    Me, i'd chip the MU-x for the extra 20% for only 35 thou. After warranty, of course. ^^

    hindi lang po hp.. mas modelo na din PO at mas tahimik, less vibrations ang engine ng TB...

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    #598
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    hindi lang po hp.. mas modelo na din PO at mas tahimik, less vibrations ang engine ng TB...

    actually they say MU-X is quieter and has less vibrations

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodjason View Post
    thanks bro.naisip ko din yung 230,000 na price diference,pambili na din ng accessories yon o kaya racechip.
    we own 2014 tbz ltz, an suv is not a race car, if you will just simply use it in the concrete jungle all you need is the 4x2 heck even the 4x2 is already good enough for mild rough roads

    230,000 is a lot

    you dont need a race chip, it will just ruin your engine in the long run if you want a fast automobile then buy a race car those are built so it can be tuned up.

    also planning to buy the mux when the market goes normal.

    old engine is good since it means they have sorted out all the possible mess... but, if they decided to bring the new engine much better... maybe in 2016 perhaps?

    i bought the ltz 4x4 since i plan to go to benguet in some sort of local tour, heck i toured europe and continental u.s. why not tour our own country

    about noise, inside the cabin it's tolerable, but hey it's not a european diesel suv- but those who are not famillar in riding a mid size suv told me, its very quite.

    one thing about the tbz is... it's way too powefull for you too fool around with, though it's stable at speeds and for me the brakes just wouldnt cut it-(vis a vis a full size suv chevy traverse, it's fast but it stops in a dime... maybe due to it's wider tires?)

    my two cent- kung di kaakyat sa bundok na maputik at rebel infested area di mo kailangan ng malakas na engine

    at kung mangaasar ka lang sa kalye dahil meron sirang ulo nagovertake sayo at di nakayanan ng ego mo, eh magsuicide ka na lang, we dont need more arse hole on the roads.
    Last edited by victorevolution; September 16th, 2014 at 10:15 PM.

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    #600
    Saw the mux at virra mall greenhills. TOTL displayed. Was immediately disappointed. Build quality is not that good. The doors are so light weight, almost same as L300 fb van.


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