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    Just like to Fortuner 2.5D4d at 102hp. Very anemic they would say, but still able to run more than 100+ on expressways and
    capable to climb baguio.

    Ako din byahero at isa lang auto ko - an 07 Santa Fe (150hp and 320N-M). Nabyahe ko na as far as Tacloban in the South and Cagayan in the North.

    The SF is mediocre on low end pero hanep sa mid range power. Decent sa akyatan at ok naman sa highway.
    Ang ayoko lang is yong pang ilalim nya. Nakakaawa lalo pag medyo puno kami and malubak.

    Kaya I am looking for another Car na pang utilitarian and also a people hauler with 80% on city driving din naman.

    Kaya I am not too much inclined on those high power and high torque specs dahil definitely useless sa City Driving.

    Power and Torque na same sa SF ko, ok na sa akin. Importante matipid sa diesel, wala sakit sa ulo sa makina, sa tranny, matibay ang pang ilalim, madali kumuha ng parts outside casa at madali i-service.

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    #562
    ISUZU MU-X SCORES FIRST AWARD
    Isuzu UTE Australia's seven-seat SUV – the MU-X – has just received its first accolade with OzRoamer crowning the MU-X LS-T as the best seven-seat 4WD Under $60,000.

    OzRoamer publishes the most comprehensive review of AWD SUV's and 4WD'S for towing capability and off road ability - with this prestigious award being the result of rigorous subjective and objective testing throughout the year by a number of independent judges.

    "This award illustrates the MU-X's outstanding ability and versatility when tested under 'real-world' conditions," said Dave Harding, Isuzu UTE Australia's Assistant General Manager of Marketing & PR.

    "It also highlights what a great value proposition the MU-X is when you compare its off-road and towing credentials with our more extravagantly priced competitors," he added.

    OzRoamer's tester Anthony Hood said that the MU-X "performed effortlessly" during its evaluation.

    "We took the Isuzu MU-X LS-T on a family holiday towing a 2800kg caravan through the narrow windy and hilly back roads of Tasmania. The MU-X never missed a beat. While towing we averaged about 14-15L/100Km and there was plenty of power and low down torque for the job. That is what I mean by sometimes the figures don't translate to real world driving. The MU-X performed like it had another 100Nm of torque.

    "What the Isuzu does though is make you really question why you would pay upwards of $80,000 on some of the other 'family 4WD wagons' it's that good," Hood concluded.

    Awards | Award Winning UTE, D-MAX, MU-X | Isuzu UTE Australia

    Mas maganda talaga pag nilabas dto ung 3.0 vgs mga boss, based na rn sa reviews sa south africa although dmax 3.0 4x4 un which has the same engine,transmission and final gear drive and same curb weight na dn with the MU-X kayang kaya tapatan ung 2.8 vgt ng TBZ kahit mas mataas ung hp rating nila with 200 HP

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    #563
    Quote Originally Posted by PATSYS View Post
    I went to Isuzu Pasig showroom yesterday and I have the following findings:


    Very uncomfortable 3rd row seat
    Alanganin ang flooring sa 3rd row seat, half of it is ka level ng seat and half on a lower level and almost nasa ilalim na ng 2nd row seat. Hindi mo alam kung saan mo ipapatong yung paa mo. Kahit mga bata umupo dun will find this bothersome on a long haul trip.


    10" roof mounted monitor getting in the way of rear view mirror
    About 1"-1.5" of the bottom of the monitor is blocking the rear view mirror. Also folk sitting in the 2nd row seat parang magkaka stiff neck pag nanood sila.


    Foldable 3rd row seat does not flatten with the flooring
    When folded, it is not on the same level as the flooring. I think it is about 2 inches.


    Power and torque is still below that of its counterparts
    Compared to Montero, Fortuner, Everest, Santa Fe, Trailblazer, its power and Torque is lower.

    I intend to buy a new SUV maybe later this year or early next year. Will wait for feedbacks muna.
    May video po ako na pinost dto dati sir back read nio na lang, dmax 2.5 vgs (136 hp, 320 torque) same lang dn ng sa mux vs chevy colorado 2.5 with 150 hp, 350 torque pero may revised version na ngaun whcih is 163 hp 380 nm torque, but the point is d laging basehan ang paper specs kung icocompare mo sa real world driving tulad na lang ng nasa video na un

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    #564
    Quote Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA View Post
    May video po ako na pinost dto dati sir back read nio na lang, dmax 2.5 vgs (136 hp, 320 torque) same lang dn ng sa mux vs chevy colorado 2.5 with 150 hp, 350 torque pero may revised version na ngaun whcih is 163 hp 380 nm torque, but the point is d laging basehan ang paper specs kung icocompare mo sa real world driving tulad na lang ng nasa video na un
    Agree, though I have both 2010 Alterra 4WD and 2012 Tucson CRDI 4WD and can attest that the torque on paper seems fairly representing the actual power/acceleration.

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    #565
    hindi ba ibang engine naman ang ginamit sa test... sa engine na gamit dito sa pilipinas...?

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    #566
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    hindi ba ibang engine naman ang ginamit sa test... sa engine na gamit dito sa pilipinas...?
    dto sa pinas sir d po available ung 2.5 vgs dmax, ung dati pang makina pa rn ang nakakabit na 3.0 i teq na walang VGS tapos sa mga low end naman ung 2.5 4jk1 non-vgs naman, ung nasa video lang kc na un ang pinakamalapit na comparison natin sa MUX dahil parehas lang naman cla ng specs nung dmax na nasa video sa thailand,sa video at 16:00 minute mark pinakita dun ung specs nung dalawa and you can also check the specs of that isuzu dmax 2.5 VGS Z hi-lander 4-door sa siamnewcar

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    #567
    Quote Originally Posted by PATSYS View Post
    Agree, though I have both 2010 Alterra 4WD and 2012 Tucson CRDI 4WD and can attest that the torque on paper seems fairly representing the actual power/acceleration.
    ah ok sir pero d pa talaga natin alam kung pano manakbo ung 2.5 mux ngaun sir although mas mataas ang hp rating ng alterra compared sa 2.5 mux mas mataas nman sa torque ung MUX at 320 compared sa 290 nm ng alterra and VGS na dn c MUX which is wala sa alterra,ang makakapagsabi lang ng totoong performance ng mux ay pag may naka pag test drive oh kaya ung mga magiging first owner po dto hehehe

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    #568
    Quote Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA View Post
    ah ok sir pero d pa talaga natin alam kung pano manakbo ung 2.5 mux ngaun sir although mas mataas ang hp rating ng alterra compared sa 2.5 mux mas mataas nman sa torque ung MUX at 320 compared sa 290 nm ng alterra and VGS na dn c MUX which is wala sa alterra,ang makakapagsabi lang ng totoong performance ng mux ay pag may naka pag test drive oh kaya ung mga magiging first owner po dto hehehe
    sakto! sa ngayon walang makapagsabi dahil iba yung makina ng Mu-X dito kesa sa Australia. Yung makina ng Mu-X sa Australia talo ang TBZ kahit mas malakas ang Hp at Torque

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    #569
    Nakita ko na latest Mu X sa SM dasma.yung base model ang nakashowcase.

    The build quality is terrible,daming kumakalog na door handle.very plastic ang loob may mga maluluwag pang plastic covers,not so good ang fabric seat.saka yung sa front grille kumakalog din..haay very disappointing naman ang build quality.eto sana ipang bet ko sa mazda cx5,malayong malayo ang quality.

    Sa mga aspiring buyers, i suggest try to see the TRAILBLAZER kung 7 seater ang hanap nyo.in my judgement,di ko gusto build quality netong MU-X

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    #570
    ito pala ung dyno graph ng 3.0 vgs ung mga expert po dto pwede po bang paki explain pa lalo ung result? hehehe

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7szDFTVVts

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    Quote Originally Posted by nels76 View Post
    Just like to Fortuner 2.5D4d at 102hp. Very anemic they would say, but still able to run more than 100+ on expressways and capable to climb baguio.

    Ako din byahero at isa lang auto ko - an 07 Santa Fe (150hp and 320N-M). Nabyahe ko na as far as Tacloban in the South and Cagayan in the North.

    The SF is mediocre on low end pero hanep sa mid range power. Decent sa akyatan at ok naman sa highway.
    Ang ayoko lang is yong pang ilalim nya. Nakakaawa lalo pag medyo puno kami and malubak.

    Kaya I am looking for another Car na pang utilitarian and also a people hauler with 80% on city driving din naman.

    Kaya I am not too much inclined on those high power and high torque specs dahil definitely useless sa City Driving.

    Power and Torque na same sa SF ko, ok na sa akin. Importante matipid sa diesel, wala sakit sa ulo sa makina, sa tranny, matibay ang pang ilalim, madali kumuha ng parts outside casa at madali i-service.
    Based on my ancient abacus computation, a two-tonner vehicle will need an average of about 103hp to speed itself up from 0-100kph in 10secs flat, which in my view is the threshold of adequate power. With a max torque band (320Nm) occurring between 1800-2800 rpm, the MU-x engine's power band is right about in the sweet spot, churning from 80hp to 120hp, to get the machine running up to the legal speed limit at our tollways. You have an extra 16hp to play around with to yield illegal speeds, but why would you do that? To contribute to our corrupted coffers, well be my guest. Isuzu gets my approving technical nod on this one by ensuring a Goldilocks sized motor, powerful enough AND economical to a tee. Just right, 'ika nga.

    The old Fortuner in comparison, only averages 70hp within its peak torque band. Pulling its huge weight in the century dash would take about 15secs, truly the tortoise among hares in the mid-sized SUV market. But since the engine upgrade, the Fort would be able to outrun the MU-x a wee bit slightly. Load both to GVW, then there will almost be no difference in sprints. What matters then is the spacing of the tranny and differential ratio. Only a strict driving test can distinguish which is more responsive between the two.

    Or you can chip this out to 120-150% and see how soon you can wreck its little motor. ^^



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    Fully agree. This is also my stand - not to be brainwashed with higher paper specs.

    Pero wala tayong magagawa. Some consumers is attracted to specs. Specs indeed sell. Parang sa cellphone lang din.

    Peace of mind is better than paper specs. he he.
    Magbasa kayo sa Ranger thread. Problematic ang turbo ng 2.2 and 3.2.

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    Torque pag akyatan at hatak, HP sa speed tama ba?

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    #574
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Torque pag akyatan at hatak, HP sa speed tama ba?
    Turo ng physics teacher ko na lagi kong tinutulugan:

    Power (hp) = Torque (N-m) x rpm ÷ C'
    where

    C' = 7,124

    Despues, sa pagtaas ng Power, tataas din ang Torque dahil sila ay Directly Proportional sa isa't isa.

    So kung kailangan mo ng mabilis agad, kailangan malakas ang motor; kung kailangan mo ng malakas humila, dapat malakas din ang motor

    Eh di pleho lang pala yung dalawa, parang pinag-biak na buko.

    Magkakatalo na lang sa giya: dahil kung kailangan humila ng matindi, eh ibababa natin ang kambyo sa primera. Pero kung pampabilis, itaas ang kambyo sa quinta.

    Teka, lumabo ata... ^^

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    #575
    Akala ng marami the bigger the engine displacement the faster and more power. i heard before someone said ''naka 3.0 ako eh'' the other one replied ''ako 3.2''. They only have cash to buy expensive cars but they don't know what is the capability of the car. Medyo OT. Hehe GO MUX. dami na nakabili dito. Sikat ang isuzu sa province. Hehe

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    #576
    any feedback sa mga me unit na?

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    #577
    may invitation ako this saturday to test drive the Mu-X

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    #578
    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomer123 View Post
    Turo ng physics teacher ko na lagi kong tinutulugan:

    Power (hp) = Torque (N-m) x rpm ÷ C'
    where

    C' = 7,124

    Despues, sa pagtaas ng Power, tataas din ang Torque dahil sila ay Directly Proportional sa isa't isa.

    So kung kailangan mo ng mabilis agad, kailangan malakas ang motor; kung kailangan mo ng malakas humila, dapat malakas din ang motor

    Eh di pleho lang pala yung dalawa, parang pinag-biak na buko.

    Magkakatalo na lang sa giya: dahil kung kailangan humila ng matindi, eh ibababa natin ang kambyo sa primera. Pero kung pampabilis, itaas ang kambyo sa quinta.

    Teka, lumabo ata... ^^
    noob question: yung paper specs ba measured as the whole car as load or yung makina lang? Kung makina lang, magbabago yung torque when loaded by the drivetrain di ba dahil depende rin sa gear ratio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    noob question: yung paper specs ba measured as the whole car as load or yung makina lang? Kung makina lang, magbabago yung torque when loaded by the drivetrain di ba dahil depende rin sa gear ratio?
    - Makina lang

    - Nakuha mo 😅.

    Nagbibigay ang drivetrain ng dagdag na 'Mechanical Advantage' na kung saan kaya nating timplahin ang pwersa na pupunta sa mga gulong.

    Entonses, sa primera ang twerka mo ay napakalakas pero gapang lang, panghila baga, samantalang sa quinta ay pwedeng mamatayan ka ng andar sa makina dahil napakahina ng twerka nguni't kung may vuelo na, ang layo ng sikad para tipid sa gatong. ^^

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    #580
    Quote Originally Posted by ebowme4867 View Post
    Nakita ko na latest Mu X sa SM dasma.yung base model ang nakashowcase.

    The build quality is terrible,daming kumakalog na door handle.very plastic ang loob may mga maluluwag pang plastic covers,not so good ang fabric seat.saka yung sa front grille kumakalog din..haay very disappointing naman ang build quality.eto sana ipang bet ko sa mazda cx5,malayong malayo ang quality.

    Sa mga aspiring buyers, i suggest try to see the TRAILBLAZER kung 7 seater ang hanap nyo.in my judgement,di ko gusto build quality netong MU-X
    then you shouldn't be here

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