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    #3301
    May pros and cons ata ang disc and drum sir. Maybe yun ang dahilan ng toyota. May nabasa ako somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancerA174A View Post
    The 4JJ1 is actually the older engine, since the 4JK1 is based on the 3.0. Ilang beses na din dumaan sa updates ang 4JJ1 for improvements like nilagyan nga ng VGS and the most recent update was the one fitted on the new D-Max RT-50. From 163PS/360 Nm to 177PS/380Nm na. What we got on the other hand is the 4JJ1-TC (Hi), different tuning daw.

    Yes sir. Still imamarket pa dn nila ang 4JK1 at di nila ito tatanggalin.

    Siguro dahil old engine na ang 4JJ1 kaya it should/must mura ito, compare sa 4JK1 na nag R&d sila. Sabi ko nga sir baka kaya mahal sa MU-X dahil sa DRL and added chrome, pero siguro pricing is dapat same lang. Kaso ayaw lang iprice ng same dahil it will up eat and confuse the two markets.

    Maybe magaadd pa sila ng added bling blings sa susunod na facelifts sa 3.0 4JJ1-TC para mas lumayo pa ng konti ang presyo sa 2.5. Difference of 60k-100k. (Maybe)

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    #3303
    Quote Originally Posted by frostmourn View Post
    Yes po sir stockengine. Still kahit sa pinas naka brake drum pa rin po si fort na 2.5 vnt. I think its cost cutting strategy ng toyota. Standard na sa ibang brands ang disc. Toyota fan boys peace! Hehe :D

    why toyota uses drum brakes skip to 3:57


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    #3304
    LUAP, Please check your inbox. I sent you a private message.

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    #3305
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    why toyota uses drum brakes skip to 3:57

    Haha. Im not into sand dunes every day! :p and we dont tow using our suv! Fort is an suv bro! the video is a toyota tacoma and its a truck.

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    #3306
    Quote Originally Posted by john042776 View Post
    Guys observe ko lang sa mux natin, going down sa slope of 50 degress parking kasi ng punta kami hospital napakatarik yung parking na underground habang pababa on auto mode D parang di sya nag eengine break kasi naka apak ako sa preno which is alalay lang dahil mag engine break, dapat di ba magaan lang ang apak ko pero madiin because i observe na hindi sya nag engine break. Kasi nag alangan akong bitawan break baka biglang bumulusok tapos nung malapit na sa baba may vibration akong naramdaman siguro dahil sa subrang preno ko na.ano kaya to guys mali lang driving style ko....
    engine brake kung naka 1st gear ka via manumatic. pag auto "d" hindi yan mag engine brake, preno lang pipigil except kung may hill descent system.

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    #3307
    Quote Originally Posted by frostmourn View Post
    Haha. Im not into sand dunes every day! :p and we dont tow using our suv! Fort is an suv bro! the video is a toyota tacoma and its a truck.
    Sino dito ang nilulubog ang sasakyan nila sa buhangin at sino naman dito ang parating nasasabak sa baha tuwing tag ulan. So yes rear disk brake for us please.

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    #3308
    Guys sino na nagpakabit ng bumper s mu-x bagay po ba? Any recommend na bagay??? Pics naman po...thanks

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    #3309
    Guys i have to finalize my order by monday but still too little inputs i get from this thread torn between 2 lovers ika nga the 3.0 or the 2.5? Who ever had test drove the 3.0 is there a significant increase in its power how about its fuel consumption?

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    #3310
    Quote Originally Posted by john042776 View Post
    Guys sino na nagpakabit ng bumper s mu-x bagay po ba? Any recommend na bagay??? Pics naman po...thanks
    I think some bumpers are compatible with the airbags. Most knockoffs arent.

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    #3311
    When I saw the article about the MU-X(local) introduced with a 3.0 vgs I almost jump out of the balcony buti nalang di pa kami nakapagreserve hehe so humingi na ako ng quotation sa GENCARS makati hehe
    sobrang reasonable ng price kulang nalang skyroof

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    When I saw the article about the MU-X(local) introduced with a 3.0 vgs I almost jump out of the balcony buti nalang di pa kami nakapagreserve hehe so humingi na ako ng quotation sa GENCARS makati hehe
    sobrang reasonable ng price kulang nalang skyroof

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    #3313
    Quote Originally Posted by Airbus380 View Post
    Guys i have to finalize my order by monday but still too little inputs i get from this thread torn between 2 lovers ika nga the 3.0 or the 2.5? Who ever had test drove the 3.0 is there a significant increase in its power how about its fuel consumption?
    Being all new, I doubt if anyone can give you first hand info on the 3.0. The 2.5 tho, is a very capable suv. Torque curve is flat at 320Nm starting 1800rpm up to around 3000rpm, afterwards you still have around 280nm going down. As an owner, I can say this is believable.

    I owned a strada vgt, and I'd take the mux any time of the day because of this flat torque curve which makes it very drive-able. See, the strada vgt is only good on paper. On paper the strada makes at 178hp and 350Nm. Most do not realize that the 350Nm torque comes in very late at 3500rpm. At 2000rpm, its only making 250Nm...at 2500rpm it makes 300Nm. This makes it very anemic below 2000rpm.

    Fuel consumption is yet to be seen in actual. Cruising at 100kph, I can get 15 km/l on my Mux AT. At 80kph cruising I get 17 km/l.

    Now comparing the 3.0 and the 2.5...if you are a power freak, just get the 3.0. Im sure fuel economy will not hurt that much being an isuzu.

    HTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Being all new, I doubt if anyone can give you first hand info on the 3.0. The 2.5 tho, is a very capable suv. Torque curve is flat at 320Nm starting 1800rpm up to around 3000rpm, afterwards you still have around 280nm going down. As an owner, I can say this is believable.

    I owned a strada vgt, and I'd take the mux any time of the day because of this flat torque curve which makes it very drive-able. See, the strada vgt is only good on paper. On paper the strada makes at 178hp and 350Nm. Most do not realize that the 350Nm torque comes in very late at 3500rpm. At 2000rpm, its only making 250Nm...at 2500rpm it makes 300Nm. This makes it very anemic below 2000rpm.

    Fuel consumption is yet to be seen in actual. Cruising at 100kph, I can get 15 km/l on my Mux AT. At 80kph cruising I get 17 km/l.

    Now comparing the 3.0 and the 2.5...if you are a power freak, just get the 3.0. Im sure fuel economy will not hurt that much being an isuzu.

    HTH
    Sir thanks for the reply actually i have test driven the 2.5 LS -AT and if anyone had been here in cebu going to TOPS BUSAY is one steep of a climb w/ 2 adults as my passenger it still was like effortless so i was surprised bec i wasnt expecting that much beforehand bec in the papers it seems unimpressive. I drove it for speed in SRP it was ok too but since the last 2 days there was this new 3.0 launching that started my confusion i initially told my agent that ill get the 3.0 then yesterday i told him na tuloy ako sa 2.5 then he suggested to me that by monday it could be better that i make my mind

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    #3315
    Quote Originally Posted by Airbus380 View Post
    Sir thanks for the reply actually i have test driven the 2.5 LS -AT and if anyone had been here in cebu going to TOPS BUSAY is one steep of a climb w/ 2 adults as my passenger it still was like effortless so i was surprised bec i wasnt expecting that much beforehand bec in the papers it seems unimpressive. I drove it for speed in SRP it was ok too but since the last 2 days there was this new 3.0 launching that started my confusion i initially told my agent that ill get the 3.0 then yesterday i told him na tuloy ako sa 2.5 then he suggested to me that by monday it could be better that i make my mind
    Yung price difference kasi barya nalang yun eh. Yan ang nagpahirap sa decision making ng customers hehe. Pero if I were you, settle for the 3.0 bro. That will be my choice if given one. Just saying kung hindi ka makapaghintay, the 2.5 is a good one too. Yun lang if you want more than enough power...3.0 it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airbus380 View Post
    Sir thanks for the reply actually i have test driven the 2.5 LS -AT and if anyone had been here in cebu going to TOPS BUSAY is one steep of a climb w/ 2 adults as my passenger it still was like effortless so i was surprised bec i wasnt expecting that much beforehand bec in the papers it seems unimpressive. I drove it for speed in SRP it was ok too but since the last 2 days there was this new 3.0 launching that started my confusion i initially told my agent that ill get the 3.0 then yesterday i told him na tuloy ako sa 2.5 then he suggested to me that by monday it could be better that i make my mind
    Cebu ka pala. If the traffic there isnt so bad like metro manila 3.0vgs na lng. I miss going to TOPS. Sarap drive dyan hehehe. Grabe traffic sa downtown pag rush hour. Aside from that ok naman.

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    #3317
    After dropping the bomb on the price of the 3.0, they should discount the 2.5 to around 1.3. Undercut the competition like what Mitsu did a few years ago. If you don't have a class-leading product, at least have the most value-for-money one, which in many people's opinions is the better choice. Besides, paper-specs lang namang panlaban ng mga bagong Ford and Chevy, real-world performance and reliability is what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Challenger75 View Post
    After dropping the bomb on the price of the 3.0, they should discount the 2.5 to around 1.3. Undercut the competition like what Mitsu did a few years ago. If you don't have a class-leading product, at least have the most value-for-money one, which in many people's opinions is the better choice. Besides, paper-specs lang namang panlaban ng mga bagong Ford and Chevy, real-world performance and reliability is what matters.
    You cant suddenly drop the price. The price drop will cause havoc among the recent buyer.

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    #3319
    Of course you won't drop it just like that. Ease it in slowly through discounts or accessory packages. I think Isuzu is doing it already, latest I heard is 30k discount on the 4x2 LS-A which drops it to 1.328M. That's from 10-20k discount last month, and prior to the Everest launch was sticker price plus DI.

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    #3320
    Saan yang 30k discount for the 4x2 AT pls. Pa message ako that extra 10k would help.

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