Hyundai Tucson

[harold13]

Theres nothing wrong buying a CRDi.
Theres nothing wrong buying a Gas vehicle.

Mga pananaw natin on these engines should be kept to ourselves.
Or better for me kasi it worked best nung time im deciding what engine to buy is to talk to Tucson owners themselves and they encouraged me to get a CRDi instead of gas. Which i did and I never regret ive purchased a CRDi. :D

tsaka i dont find it inefficient if a guy buy a Fortuner diesel over a ford expedition. Look at where expedition stand now, resale value? nakakaiyak. fuel consumption? lumalaklak. in the streets? pwede kung mayaman, walang problema

[Djerms]

^Err, Nobody mentioned an expedition here. I think everyone is comparing the hyundai crdi vs. the hyundai petrol vs diesel suv's like the montero and pajero. You might want to get things straight first and think outside your equation.

I said that IN MY OWN OPINION, crdi does not AUTOMATICALLY mean savings. If you intend to keep your tucson for less than 5 years, and you don't intend to haul big asses, then the petrol is the way to go considering the price difference.

However, if you're saying that you haul big time and you travel long distance trips, and you love your crdi tucson so much that you intend to keep it that long, then by all means go for the CRDI. I just don't think that its practical (same way as you dont think that expeditions are vs. fortuner diesel) to buy it just because you have plenty of money. But of course if you really love CRDI, and you have the money, then no one is hindering anyone from buying.

And I still don't agree with keeping our opinions to ourselves. I for one reads posts of other people to know what they think. Then compare it to what I think. Its up to me if I will accept it or not.

If you are happy with your Crdi Tucs, good for you so as long as you do not shoot me for owning a petrol in the future or...as long as I do not shoot you for owning a crdi.



Peace.

[Grey Thumper]

Don't forget to consider depreciation/resale of CRDi Tucsons compared to gas Tucsons.

[renzo_d10]

I have to go with Gen. Miting's reply ... cars are simply just cars. It doesn't matter whether it is or diesel or gas ... it serves you the same thing! Bring you to wherever you want to be brought. In the Tucson's case, why go for the diesel when there is gas ? You're rich ? You're practical ? You want to save money ? HECK ! Who would add hundred of thousands of money just to get a diesel engine who, to the fact ... doesn't save you anything! Lets say you'll add 300k. HELL ... that's a lot of money ! And by the way, it doesn't stop there. The maintenance cost of it, it's in fact also pricey. So, better decide first and look if you are going to really save money. Now, for other vehicles like the santa fe, it's the different thing ... the diesel costs less, while the gas costs more. That's why, SF owners prefer to go to the diesel variant rather than the gas variant since the difference is just big. It's not a peso, it's not ten thousand ... it's hundred of thousands.

[axtech]

lets's put it this way.. kung price difference ng gas unit sa crdi unit is P300,000.00, it would take you almost 10 years para mabawi mo yun price difference ng crdi unit vs gas unit if you're going to use the difference sa pagpapa gas on an avg. of 3000liters/year of gas...

price difference ng gas over diesel is around P10.00 na lang.. kung avg. fuel consumption mo in a year is 3000 liters, bali P30,000.00 a year yun. then P30,000.00 multiply by 10 years is P300,000.00.

Nice info guys..... Thanks. Di nga praktical bumili ng crdi kung malaki masyado price difference.

Well ang trend ngayon is crdi, d4d etc..pero after a year or 2 sigurado puro hybrid cars na..paubos na kasi petrol di po ba?

[Starex_Gold]

to be honest, yung CRDi Tucson sana gusto ko pero lintek ang mahal! tapos inisip ko yung magagastos ko pag nag gas ako o CRDi. let's say malakas sa gas yung CVVT at mas mahal ang petrol, at mas matipid ang CRDi at mas mura ang diesel. Pag dating kaya sa MAINTENANCE saan ka malilintikan? malamang sa CRDi-VGT.

para naman sa mga bumibili ng Montero, wag kang maawa sa kanila, may pera lang talaga sila pambili at yun talaga gusto nilang sasakyan e. paki mo ba? ikaw ba pinag tawanan o kina awaan ng mga may fortuner nung bumili ka ng Santa Fe?

ako mag Tucson 2.4L CVVT 4WD nalang. di ko na iintayin yung CRDi-VGT.

[Djerms]

^Korek Starex Gold.

OT: Di ba nasa Teamfd ka din? How's your civic okay na?

[Djerms]

I for one reads posts of other people to know what they think.

Peace.

Sorry for the grammatical error. It should be read not reads..


Nagmamadali....hehe.

[padipadi]

try ko lang po...

tingnan natin itong P300,000 difference bet. gas n crdi variant...

let's say one travels 20,000kms a year
and wild guess FC, maybe medium to heavy foot:
gas = 6 kms/liter
crdi = 10 kms/liter

so, sa fuel funds ng 20,000 kms a year ay:
gas = 20,000kms x 1liter/6kms = 3333.33 liters
3333.33liters x 42.6pesos/1liter = P 142,000 a year

diesel = 20,000kms x 1liter/10kms = 2,000 liters
2,000 liters x 33.25pesos/liter = P 66,500 a year

so: P142,000 - P66,500 = P75,500 difference with regard to fuel funds only per year.

therefore:
P300,000 divide it by P75,500 = 3.97 years to get the 300k difference

syempre, nandyan pa maintenance costs, etc.

paki edit na lang po for mistakes in my post. just tried this before because of the plan in the past to choose between gas n diesel variants.

thanks.

[emachine]

*padipadi

nice presentation sir

yun previous computation ko is that kung avg consumption mo sa gas is 3000 liters. per yun nga, kung high mileage ka sa oto, its better to hava a diesel engine.. kami kasi usually ang sasakyan 10000 kms a year lang ang mileage hehehe.

[tidus1203]

Wala bang 4X2 na CRDi-VGT baka mas mura naman kaysa duon sa 1.4M na 4X4... I just love kasi yung 0-100 accelration ng CRDi I just love it wala talaga sa gas yung ganun typong acceleration! Kaya maka CRDi pa din ako...

[harold13]

*tidus, agree ako dyan.

people who don't experience driving or owns a CRDi, will never share the same sentiments towards a CRDi engine users.

[mazzipino]

January 25th pa daw next batch of deliveries..........

[tidus1203]

And I believe the new Tucson has the new R-engine... Eh yung lumang 2.2L ng Santa Fe 2nd gen ang lakas sobra ng acceleration making a joke on Civic ricers eh itong R-engine pa...

[jozef_10]

try ko lang po...

tingnan natin itong P300,000 difference bet. gas n crdi variant...

let's say one travels 20,000kms a year
and wild guess FC, maybe medium to heavy foot:
gas = 6 kms/liter
crdi = 10 kms/liter

so, sa fuel funds ng 20,000 kms a year ay:
gas = 20,000kms x 1liter/6kms = 3333.33 liters
3333.33liters x 42.6pesos/1liter = P 142,000 a year

diesel = 20,000kms x 1liter/10kms = 2,000 liters
2,000 liters x 33.25pesos/liter = P 66,500 a year

so: P142,000 - P66,500 = P75,500 difference with regard to fuel funds only per year.

therefore:
P300,000 divide it by P75,500 = 3.97 years to get the 300k difference

syempre, nandyan pa maintenance costs, etc.

paki edit na lang po for mistakes in my post. just tried this before because of the plan in the past to choose between gas n diesel variants.

thanks.

nice

the expenses for the maintenance of the engines should also be taken into consideration. afaik diesel engines are more expensive to maintain than gas.

then there's resale value as well.

[asiastreak]

try ko lang po...

tingnan natin itong P300,000 difference bet. gas n crdi variant...

let's say one travels 20,000kms a year
and wild guess FC, maybe medium to heavy foot:
gas = 6 kms/liter
crdi = 10 kms/liter

so, sa fuel funds ng 20,000 kms a year ay:
gas = 20,000kms x 1liter/6kms = 3333.33 liters
3333.33liters x 42.6pesos/1liter = P 142,000 a year

diesel = 20,000kms x 1liter/10kms = 2,000 liters
2,000 liters x 33.25pesos/liter = P 66,500 a year

so: P142,000 - P66,500 = P75,500 difference with regard to fuel funds only per year.

therefore:
P300,000 divide it by P75,500 = 3.97 years to get the 300k difference

syempre, nandyan pa maintenance costs, etc.

paki edit na lang po for mistakes in my post. just tried this before because of the plan in the past to choose between gas n diesel variants.

thanks.

boss, tingin ko dapat ding i-consider yung resale value.
kasi di naman magkapareho magiging selling price ng gas at crdi variant.

therefore: after 4 years. bawi ka na sa difference.
mas mataas pa ang magiging selling price ng crdi variant kumpara sa gas.
by how much diff., di ko na alam.

[mikmik316]

Sa torque pa lang ng CRDi matutuwa ka na kasi di ka bibitinin sa overtaking.

Sa maintenance mas simple, change oil & oil filter every 5k, clean air filters or change them pag sobrang dumi.

Pagdating sa baha, mas better ang chances na magsurvive ang diesel engine mo kesa sa gas engine.

At least 5 years from now, I would expect resale value ng CRDi 200k or higher than the gas variant.

With gas prices, oil companies can go as high as they want. With diesel, daming magrereklamo pag tumaas ang presyo lalo na ang mga PUVs. kaya tempered ang price increases ng diesel.

Kung di kaya bumili ng brand new na Diesel Tucson, daming 2nd hand diesel Tucsons na mabibili mo around 800 to 900k.

[Djerms]

Padipadi: The average km travelled per year is 10tkms afaik. But good presentation nonetheless for people who will travel that much and keep their vehicle that long.

CRDI acceleration is really good. I can tell because we've owned a diesel focus. But there are people who doesn't enjoy crude engines which is why they settle for petrols...quiet and plush.

As for maintenance, most petrols nowadays enjoy a 10tkms pms interval while diesels 5tkms. Not sure but I think new gen diesels still need calbiration at some point which is another extra cost.

To those who are contemplating in waiting for the crdi tucs and is concerned of efficiency/cost, things to consider are:

1. Difference in price bet petrol and crdi
2. Kms travelled per year
3. Maintenance cost of crdi vs. petrol

These are all taken from the discussions in this forum.

[roberto_minosa]

*tidus, agree ako dyan.

people who don't experience driving or owns a CRDi, will never share the same sentiments towards a CRDi engine users.

Good thing we own both types, a VVT-i and a common-rail diesel. No doubt, the midrange pull is awesome. But one thing I don't like about diesels is that they don't have much top-end punch so redlining is pretty useless. So an equivalent gas engine would catch up to the diesel easily on higher speeds.

[Djerms]

Padipadi: The average km travelled per year is 10tkms afaik. But good presentation nonetheless for people who will travel that much and keep their vehicle that long.

CRDI acceleration is really good. I can tell because we've owned a diesel focus. But there are people who doesn't enjoy crude engines which is why they settle for petrols...quiet and plush.

As for maintenance, most petrols nowadays enjoy a 10tkms pms interval while diesels 5tkms. Not sure but I think new gen diesels still need calbiration at some point which is another extra cost.

To those who are contemplating in waiting for the crdi tucs and is concerned of efficiency/cost, things to consider are:

1. Difference in price bet petrol and crdi
2. Kms travelled per year
3. Maintenance cost of crdi vs. petrol

These are all taken from the discussions in this forum.