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[numbah5]

Mas mura TOTL Staria vs gray market. Around 3.3M++ mga gray units.

Sana same specs

Staria TOTL variant has the same specs with the gray market units. Though the ones that are priced at 3.3M by the gray market dealers do not have dual sunroof and the Bose 12 speaker sound system. The HMPH Staria Premium varianr comes with both the dual sunroof and the Bose 12 speaker system.

We're actually planning to buy one by early next year to replace our aging gray market Grand Starex.

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[numbah5]

i heard that hyundai sales plummeted, as a result of corporate changes.
have the sales figures improved already?

Possibly doc. I already saw some all new Tucsons on the road sporting the dealer plates of Hyundai dealers. HMPH and their entire vehicle line up just officially launched last week. I heard that the unit allocations for our market started to arrive back in end July.

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[TheUninvited]

HMPH is a lot better than HARI in pricing and specing their vehicle line up IMO. The Tucson's local market competitors that have ADAS are already the 2M price range. Based on the pricing strategy of HMPH, if they will add a new variant of the Tucson that comes with Hyundai Smartsense, possible price range would be around 2M, still undercutting its competitors.

Well not really, the Ford Territory has complete ADAS at 1.3M. lol

[numbah5]

Well not really, the Ford Territory has complete ADAS at 1.3M. lol

They're not in the same league to be honest.

The Territory uses a smaller engine and takes advantage of the ASEAN-China Free Trade Agreement tax perks on 1.5L engines that's why it's priced very low compared to other crossovers.

The Tucson doesn't have the same tax perks advantage of the Territory which is why it's priced like that. But if we compare the price of the Tucson with the no ADAS variants of its Japanese competitors, it's priced competitively.

My question to you, would you get the cheaper Chinese made Territory which according to some posts in the Ford Territory Club Phils FB page, has issues with some electrical components like its touchscreen infotainment, TPMS and 360 degree camera, and issues with the transmission; or would you get the more expensive but already proven to be reliable Korean made Tucson?

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[TheUninvited]

They're not in the same league to be honest.

The Territory uses a smaller engine and takes advantage of the ASEAN-China Free Trade Agreement tax perks on 1.5L engines that's why it's priced very low compared to other crossovers.

The Tucson doesn't have the same tax perks advantage of the Territory which is why it's priced like that. But if we compare the price of the Tucson with the no ADAS variants of its Japanese competitors, it's priced competitively.

My question to you, would you get the cheaper Chinese made Territory which according to some posts in the Ford Territory Club Phils FB page, has issues with some electrical components like its touchscreen infotainment, TPMS and 360 degree camera, and issues with the transmission; or would you get the more expensive but already proven to be reliable Korean made Tucson?

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I'd still get the Territory in a heartbeat. 1.3M vs the projected 2M for the variant with the ADAS. 700K difference for basically same segment cars.

It's like the Subaru pricing with their 2M XV. Lols

[viper888]

The price difference between a Territory and Tucson is pretty massive.
Resale value of the Territory will be worse on a percentage basis though.

We were looking at a Territory, CX-5, and a Tucson and its hard to argue against the price of a Territory.

Actually the Tucson has an advantage of being a diesel at 1.84

The thing about Subaru pricing is that they offer massive discounts

[yapoy86]

I'd still get the Territory in a heartbeat. 1.3M vs the projected 2M for the variant with the ADAS. 700K difference for basically same segment cars.

It's like the Subaru pricing with their 2M XV. Lols

Olats pricing ng tucson pag ganyan.. abang na lang sa 2nd hand market.. hehe

[Dr.Kamiya]

The thing about Subaru pricing is that they offer massive discounts

Haven't been to Subaru showroom in a while. How massive is massive? Let's say the XV is quoted at 2M, how much will you pay to get one out the door?

[numbah5]

For me, I'd get the Tucson even if it's more expensive. I'd rather have peace of mind than having my car brought to the casa often due to issues I'll encounter.

My wife and I considered the Territory last year, but after we read the various issues at the FB page of the Territory club, we became skeptical. Our skepticism were validated when a friend of mine who owns a Territory had the transmission replaced after a year of ownership.

The Territory is a good car, don't get me wrong. But we can't ignore the fact that a significant number of owners are experiencing various issues with the car.

Guys, we are talking about how the Tucson is priced vs. its Japanese competitors. Di ko sinama ang Territory because it's another story. HMPH has indeed priced it competitively vs. the no ADAS variants of the CR-V, Forester, pre Hybrid Rav4 and CX-5.

Dunno why someone here suddenly inserted the Territory into the equation when I'm talking about the Tucson being priced competitively vs the Japanese competitors.

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[dr. d]

Dunno why someone here suddenly inserted the Territory into the equation when I'm talking about the Tucson being priced competitively vs the Japanese competitors.

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it's a public forum, kasi.
anyone with an axe to grind, or a bench to lift, may do so.

[TsekwangBakla]

Maganda yung Staria na top of the line. Pangsko sa akin next month ma release na unit ko. Hehe

[viper888]

Haven't been to Subaru showroom in a while. How massive is massive? Let's say the XV is quoted at 2M, how much will you pay to get one out the door?

I was told of up to 200k

[Walter]

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[ice15]

Haven't been to Subaru showroom in a while. How massive is massive? Let's say the XV is quoted at 2M, how much will you pay to get one out the door?

Subaru PH is offering up to P210k off on the XV this month | TopGear PH

The Subaru XV 2.0 i-S EyeSight CVT variant that stickers for P1,908,000 can be had for as low as P20,710 per month. If that’s not the right deal, you can opt to pay down payment for as low as P269,000 instead. Paying in cash, meanwhile, will entail outright cash discounts of as much as P210,000.

[ice15]

Hyundai PH sales strategy will veer away from discounts and low down payments | Visor

The executive also shared with us that their sales strategy would no longer rely on big discounts and low down payments, which, we have to agree, had damaged Hyundai’s reputation among buyers.

[babkalakal]

Hyundai PH sales strategy will veer away from discounts and low down payments | Visor

well ang masasabi ko lang ay good luck.

ang hiace commuter3.0 1.379m
ang hiace commuter delux2.8 1.724m
ang staria commuter 1.850m

kung commercial o fleet operator ako no prizes kung saan ako mas malamang kukuha ng unit.

i think feel na feel ng hyundai ang premium market aspirations nila unfortunately as a consumer i still don't see the same.

[carxynogen]

well ang masasabi ko lang ay good luck.

ang hiace commuter3.0 1.379m
ang hiace commuter delux2.8 1.724m
ang staria commuter 1.850m

kung commercial o fleet operator ako no prizes kung saan ako mas malamang kukuha ng unit.

i think feel na feel ng hyundai ang premium market aspirations nila unfortunately as a consumer i still don't see the same.

Maganda din naman yung offering nila in terms of specs ng unit, features and interior wise.
Sa brand reputation lang talaga malaki lamang toyota.
Kaya if maglabas ng unit with same specs offering, driving comfort ang toyota, premium din naman pricing nila compare sa ibang brands at naging bang for the buck offering ng Hyundai or other brands if we are to compare.

[dr. d]

Sa brand reputation lang talaga malaki lamang toyota.

well,
the toyota reputation is the envy of other car salesmen...
or so they say.

my look on korean cars is ... dated.
i wonder, are they at par with the japanese now?
will the stargazer be as trouble-free as the innova?

[thearsenal1205]

Hyundai PH sales strategy will veer away from discounts and low down payments | Visor

their going backwards. this is BS decision of hyundai ph.

[carxynogen]

well,
the toyota reputation is the envy of other car salesmen...
or so they say.

my look on korean cars is ... dated.
i wonder, are they at par with the japanese now?
will the stargazer be as trouble-free as the innova?

Can't comment yet with their gasoline engine doc.
But their diesel cars are really good.
Those who driven one can attest how the recent Hyundai vehicles improved overtime, even missing some features of the car (Hyundai Starex) when they switched to drive the Toyota Hi-Ace Grandia units.

Sa gas cars nila, may nakikita pa rin akong reported issues in groups na medyo rare sa mga latest diesel engine units nila.

TBD pa lang talaga if reliable na latest cars since this topic requires years to prove.
And Toyota already proven this na with their old vehicle offerings.
With our suking mekaniko even suggesting me to get Toyota vehicle.

But so far yung Hyundai Tucson 2009 diesel ko before, yung complaints ko lang was the AC system, nasira agad compressor after 7 yrs of use. Aside sa mga wear and tear items (engine support, suspension system, ngatngat daga wiper hose, alternator bearing, AC compressor bearing).
Syempre 10+yrs na din yun before I let go of the unit due to garage issue (1 carpark only lang sa amin).
Hindi ko sana i let go yun if may extra carpark pa area namin.

Haven't encountered engine problems with that unit since alaga naman sa suking gasoline station PMS at timely interval.