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    #81
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    well,
    the toyota reputation is the envy of other car salesmen...
    or so they say.

    my look on korean cars is ... dated.
    i wonder, are they at par with the japanese now?
    will the stargazer be as trouble-free as the innova?
    To determine the phil reputation with regards to brand.
    Look at its resale value.
    Toyota cars by far has a better resale value than any other car makers.
    How's Hyundai resale value now a days?
    Ask any Buy and Sell dealers and you will know which cars are favored in the 2nd hand market.
    The only reason some car models by other manufacturers where able to topple a Toyota brand model in top spot is because of the large discounts being offered by the other manufacturer.

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    #82
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    their going backwards. this is BS decision of hyundai ph.
    Lets wait and see.. kasi before, bare bones mga offerings nila.. low down / discounted nga pero dami features ang tanggal..

    Kia / hyundai used to be value for money cars.. you get more features from the same price range

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    #83
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    To determine the phil reputation with regards to brand.
    Look at its resale value.
    Toyota cars by far has a better resale value than any other car makers.
    How's Hyundai resale value now a days?
    Ask any Buy and Sell dealers and you will know which cars are favored in the 2nd hand market.
    The only reason some car models by other manufacturers where able to topple a Toyota brand model in top spot is because of the large discounts being offered by the other manufacturer.
    Yupp large discount.
    Let's say binigyan ka ng 200k discount ng hyundai while toyota is walang discount on the similarly priced vehicle.
    Resale value, for sure mas malaki resale value value toyota but with the given discount from hyundai, cgro justifiable cgro why mas mura ng 200k more or less hyundai unit.

    Sorry for those who bought at SRP w/o discount though.

    Let's see sa current policy ng hyundai if they can stick with this policy for so long.

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    #84
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    To determine the phil reputation with regards to brand.
    Look at its resale value.
    Toyota cars by far has a better resale value than any other car makers.
    How's Hyundai resale value now a days?
    Ask any Buy and Sell dealers and you will know which cars are favored in the 2nd hand market.
    The only reason some car models by other manufacturers where able to topple a Toyota brand model in top spot is because of the large discounts being offered by the other manufacturer.
    like for like models mas mataas pa din slightly ang resale ng honda kaysa toyota.

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    #85
    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Yupp large discount.
    Let's say binigyan ka ng 200k discount ng hyundai while toyota is walang discount on the similarly priced vehicle.
    Resale value, for sure mas malaki resale value value toyota but with the given discount from hyundai, cgro justifiable cgro why mas mura ng 200k more or less hyundai unit.

    Sorry for those who bought at SRP w/o discount though.

    Let's see sa current policy ng hyundai if they can stick with this policy for so long.
    They quoted me with 40k discount on cash payment for 2022 Tucson gas

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    #86
    Quote Originally Posted by hinlog View Post
    They quoted me with 40k discount on cash payment for 2022 Tucson gas

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    Good if may discount pa boss., yan if too good to be true talaga tong new hyundai policy na no cash discount.
    Yung gas, premium din yung interior nya, parang kinopya line-up variants ng Honda CR-V.

    Yung Honda lang lately, may mga complaints from US regarding their CVTs.
    2015 or 2016 CR-V ba yun that are now encountering failures.
    Yung Honday AT units, daw ang matibay talaga.
    Bat daw nag shift to CVT if tested naman daw yung AT units nila.

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    #87
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Lets wait and see.. kasi before, bare bones mga offerings nila.. low down / discounted nga pero dami features ang tanggal..

    Kia / hyundai used to be value for money cars.. you get more features from the same price range
    US line-up nila yung value for money.
    Complete features plus their pricing are undercutting the competition.

    Mapapakamot ka nalang na most reviews ng Hyundai units there are bang for the buck.
    Pero nung old dealer dito sa Pinas, dami tinanggal features, mahal pa price compare sa JP brands.

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    #88
    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Pero nung old dealer dito sa Pinas, dami tinanggal features, mahal pa price compare sa JP brands.
    Like the accent sedan with all of the airbags removed.

    Tinanggal din ata yung antilock brakes.

    Same with their grand starex base model. Meanwhile you can get dual airbags as standard on a toyota hiace commuter.


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    #89
    this is true, couple of years back when i was searching for a coding car sa mga bank repo, i noticed na ang laki ng depreciation ng hyundai kona, from more or less 1M brand new; tapos mga less than a year use below 10K KM mileage nasa 600-700K na lang, and hindi lang 1 unit, malimit ganun ang range ng pricing ng kona, i almost got 1. Pero napaisip ako bakit ganun lang value niya after a few months of use, so ended up with a Honda.



    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    To determine the phil reputation with regards to brand.
    Look at its resale value.
    Toyota cars by far has a better resale value than any other car makers.
    How's Hyundai resale value now a days?
    Ask any Buy and Sell dealers and you will know which cars are favored in the 2nd hand market.
    The only reason some car models by other manufacturers where able to topple a Toyota brand model in top spot is because of the large discounts being offered by the other manufacturer.

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    #90
    Quote Originally Posted by kapitan88 View Post
    this is true, couple of years back when i was searching for a coding car sa mga bank repo, i noticed na ang laki ng depreciation ng hyundai kona, from more or less 1M brand new; tapos mga less than a year use below 10K KM mileage nasa 600-700K na lang, and hindi lang 1 unit, malimit ganun ang range ng pricing ng kona, i almost got 1. Pero napaisip ako bakit ganun lang value niya after a few months of use, so ended up with a Honda.
    Yupp 1M Brand new, but there was a time that Hyundai offered 205k discount for Kona.
    So nung nag avail nito, more or less 800k nalang cash out.
    If second hand is 600k-700k, not too bad, malapit pa rin sa discounted price.
    Yan for those who availed cash discount.

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    #91
    Quote Originally Posted by kapitan88 View Post
    this is true, couple of years back when i was searching for a coding car sa mga bank repo, i noticed na ang laki ng depreciation ng hyundai kona, from more or less 1M brand new; tapos mga less than a year use below 10K KM mileage nasa 600-700K na lang, and hindi lang 1 unit, malimit ganun ang range ng pricing ng kona, i almost got 1. Pero napaisip ako bakit ganun lang value niya after a few months of use, so ended up with a Honda.
    yun nga maganda opportunity lalo na kung 2nd car... grab the low resale value.. nung nakuha din ako sa repo dati, lahat ng toyota taas ng price.. pero pag check mo ay naku.. laspag to the bones talaga..

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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by kapitan88 View Post
    this is true, couple of years back when i was searching for a coding car sa mga bank repo, i noticed na ang laki ng depreciation ng hyundai kona, from more or less 1M brand new; tapos mga less than a year use below 10K KM mileage nasa 600-700K na lang, and hindi lang 1 unit, malimit ganun ang range ng pricing ng kona, i almost got 1. Pero napaisip ako bakit ganun lang value niya after a few months of use, so ended up with a Honda.
    it really depends,
    "are you a'buyin' or are you a'sellin' ?"

    years ago,
    a friend was having second thoughts about purchasing a used sentra.
    "ang baba nang resale value!"
    i countered, "why are you complaining about the low re-sale value, when you are purchasing it at a comparatively low price in the first place?"
    "you should instead be thinking of cost of maintenance."
    Last edited by dr. d; November 10th, 2022 at 12:33 PM.

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    #93
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    yun nga maganda opportunity lalo na kung 2nd car... grab the low resale value.. nung nakuha din ako sa repo dati, lahat ng toyota taas ng price.. pero pag check mo ay naku.. laspag to the bones talaga..

    agreed. ang value ng hyundai mostly lies within the 2nd hand market lalo na kung sariwa. dami din pre-owned na hyundai. decent cars at low prices. yun nga lang may models talaga na bare bones ang features

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    #94
    One reason why I'm sad the Japanese executive midsize sedan has gone out of style. Those late 2000s-2010s Camrys and Accords were great cars but also depreciation monsters.

    Once they're old enough a 3.5 V6 Accord or Camry is now cheaper than a similar model year Jazz.

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    #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    One reason why I'm sad the Japanese executive midsize sedan has gone out of style. Those late 2000s-2010s Camrys and Accords were great cars but also depreciation monsters.

    Once they're old enough a 3.5 V6 Accord or Camry is now cheaper than a similar model year Jazz.
    i'm toying with the idea of getting a used camry,
    but i hear their fuel appetites are considerable...

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    #97
    Hyundai Reveals The Proper Way To Say Their Name Globally | CarGuide

    It’s “Hyun-day.” If that still didn’t help, well, it’s pretty much how you say, “Sunday.”

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