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    vtec-e po ba ang 96 civic vti?

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    No its not. Its a standard VTEC. VTEC-E was the one where the engine was designed more for fuel economy, AFAIK sa Europe lang nilabas ito... It was also found in some Accord's and Integra's...

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    ang vtec-e po ay sa d15b series na makina...

    three implementations:
    1. economy - vtec-e
    2. aggressive
    3. 3 stage

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    i always thought the vtecs of the EKs released here had the vtec-e assemblage. so if they're not vtec-Es, what are they?

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    ^ ph16 po... standard lang yung vtec dito satin. it still uses all the 16 valve.

    vtec-e is part of the d15b series. this vtec uses only 12 valve on normal and city driving then kung hataw dun gagana lahat.

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    so standard vtec lang pala iyong ph16. kaya pala malakas sa gas

    so sa 7th gen civics na nakatalaga ang mga vtec-e engines dito sa atin (the ones w/ vtec3 ES cars )?

    how about the FDs w/ k series engines? parang vtec-e din ba siya?

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    FD Civics for 1.8L is the R18 engine its i-Vtec. Same with the FD 2.0 K20 i-Vtec din... i stand for intelligent...

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie123456789 View Post
    ^ ph16 po... standard lang yung vtec dito satin. it still uses all the 16 valve.

    vtec-e is part of the d15b series. this vtec uses only 12 valve on normal and city driving then kung hataw dun gagana lahat.
    AFAIK, same lang ata yung ph16 sa d16 and ph15 sa d15.. Local name lang dito sa atin yung PH16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    so standard vtec lang pala iyong ph16. kaya pala malakas sa gas

    so sa 7th gen civics na nakatalaga ang mga vtec-e engines dito sa atin (the ones w/ vtec3 ES cars )?

    how about the FDs w/ k series engines? parang vtec-e din ba siya?
    eto para medyo malinaw kaya lang mahaba pag binasa, check this link http://www.allgonoshow.com/news/04/k...tec-breakdown/

    The K20A3 does not have a standard DOHC VTEC valvetrain as we know it from the B-series engines - the K20A3 should actually be called a “DOHC i-VTEC-E” engine, because it uses a VTEC-E cam setup. The K20A2 is the “real” DOHC i-VTEC engine, utilizing the standard DOHC VTEC cam setup we’re all familiar with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenngj View Post
    AFAIK, same lang ata yung ph16 sa d16 and ph15 sa d15.. Local name lang dito sa atin yung PH16.
    actually marami pang sub category ang d16 at d15, just like b16 family which has b16a, b16b, etc...

    me particular d16 engine ang ph16 and same sa ph15 so hindi sila interchangeable...

    BTW ang PH15A is for LXI 96-00, PH15 is for EG (although not all)...

    AFAIK

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenngj View Post
    AFAIK, same lang ata yung ph16 sa d16 and ph15 sa d15.. Local name lang dito sa atin yung PH16.
    ito nga ang pag-kakaalam ko kasi ilan beses na din na cover iyong topic na iyan sa hcp. kaso lang w/ the memory i have, there are some stuff i don't dare say w/ certainty

    at medyo mahaba nga iyong article re: k-series engines. natanong ko lang din kasi iyan kasi i know almost nothing about the engine of our FD
    Last edited by baludoy; June 12th, 2008 at 12:01 PM.

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    Yan kasi mahirap sa FD kasi yung R-series engine bago pa yan and first time to be used in the FD kaya mysterious parin sya for the most of us. But I like the R series, fuel efficient given its 1800cc displacement and tahimik sya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenngj View Post
    AFAIK, same lang ata yung ph16 sa d16 and ph15 sa d15.. Local name lang dito sa atin yung PH16.
    ang lumabas po na engine sa pinas ay d15a 96-00 (non-vtec). sa d15b series lumabas yung vtec series. lahat ng ph15 (aka d15 and d15a) walang vtec.

    with the ph16 naman, isang class lang lumabas and bigalang b series na (b16a engine of the SiR).

    im not certain about the k series but vtec-3 is like the 3 stage vtec. it has 3 solenoids AFAIK. not to sure though kasi hindi ko trip yung engine na ito.
    Last edited by archie123456789; June 12th, 2008 at 11:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie123456789 View Post
    im not certain about the k series but vtec-3 is like the 3 stage vtec. it has 3 solenoids AFAIK. not to sure though kasi hindi ko trip yung engine na ito.
    AFAIK, 3 stage vtec has only 2 solenoids. sa d15b kasi ganon, ewan ko lang sa vtec3 ng ES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flakez View Post
    AFAIK, 3 stage vtec has only 2 solenoids. sa d15b kasi ganon, ewan ko lang sa vtec3 ng ES.
    ummm not certain talaga with the vtec-3... sinabi lang sakin na 3 solenoids yun. i cant bet my life on it though.

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    Ph16a engine of 96-00 vti is very much similar to vtec-e.

    Normal mode is 12 valve operation (1-intake,2-exh per cyl).
    Vtec mode is 16 valve with v-tec cam profile same as us D16Y8, activated at around 3.5K rpm.

    3-stage vtec has only 2 vtec solenoids.

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    ummmm... mali.

    malayo ang SOHC vtec and SOHC vtec-e

    SOHC vtec it used to be optimized in higher RPM. they share a common camshaft for intake and exhaust valves. then unlike the DOHC vtec it can only be used sa intake. i dont want to go technical...

    SOHC vtec-e is opposite the vtec, it is optimized at lower RPM. only one of the two intake valves are open in a very small amount. may sliding pin lang ito to open the 2 valves.

    kung similar ang SOHC vtec and SOHC vtec-e dapat mas matipid ito sa LXi version which has no vtec.

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    ^^ where does it state the difference of the vtec-e and the vtec used here (ph16)?

    the only thing i read is -->
    One is the well-knowned VTEC-E which delivered an incredible 20+km/l mileage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicvic View Post
    Ph16a engine of 96-00 vti is very much similar to vtec-e.

    Normal mode is 12 valve operation (1-intake,2-exh per cyl).
    Vtec mode is 16 valve with v-tec cam profile same as us D16Y8, activated at around 3.5K rpm.

    3-stage vtec has only 2 vtec solenoids.

    totoo po ba ito? ung ph16 pag nagvtec katulad ng cam profile nung D16Y8 po?

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