Too many PASAWAY motorcycle RIDERS on the street

[robot.sonic]

Sad to say may cages din na ganyan. Yung 3rd brake light pa na nakamount sa taas.

[gearspeed]

May nakikita ako yung plate number nilalagay sa gilid minsan sa itaas ng muffler.

[vinj]

Just this morning,- "Mauna na kayong lahat"....




21.2K:tomato:

Kung sa heaven man or sa impyerno... mauna na kayo... :D

[Manilablock]

May nakikita ako yung plate number nilalagay sa gilid minsan sa itaas ng muffler.

minsan naman bulok na ung motor for registration pa din

[beni23]

That "sumusulpot kung saan saan" scenario will never happen on the expressways.
- speed limits are enforced except for exotics na alam ng lahat why enforcers turn a blind eye on them kasi ayaw matanggal sa trabaho
- no intersections in the expressways
- uni-directional traffic flow in the expressways, no counterflows (except for that Altis which is a CAR)
- speed differentials of different vehicles are only in the 70-100km/h range with a few exceptions. At those speed differentials with everyone else running, almost imposibleng magkaroon ng "gulatan" session with a small bike.

The expressways should actually be the least of your concerns when it comes to safety especially around motorcycles. Fact is, kung maalis na yung unconstitutional ban na yan, don't expect the jologs crowd to use it regularly if not at all because the toll fees alone are already exorbitant not just for them but even for everyday car drivers. Fact is, I only use them (whether car or bike) when running late kasi isang exit lang ang kailangan ko gamitin from home to work unlike those who live in the far south na patay sa traffic kung gagamit ng service roads all the way.

Who are you to say that that ban is unconstitutional?

Ni wala ka ngang legal basis na unconstitutional yan eh. If that "ban" or law is enforced, it is deemed to be constitutional.

#Retzing

[baludoy]

na-leche na

[gearspeed]

na-leche na

too much pampam too much pampam.lolz.
Ingat pala kayo dun sa rider na si Pamparegla hindi lang honda much more syento bente motorcycle wave gamit niya 8259DF plate kundi pati yung pang government vehicle na Black Mitsubishi Lancer SHG-373 plate with magic tint cgurado aabusuhin din niya sa daan yun.

[leodawesome]

Kanina sa EDSA may nakasabay ako na motor nasa side fairings under the manibela (malapit sa signal lights sa unahan) yung matutulis na side mirrors. WTF are these people thinking?

[brainmafia_310]

kanina sa daang hari intersection sa petron. nagstop ako to give way for the left turning vehicle from the other side.

yung motor na nasalikod ko humataw at niratratan ako sa gilid (near gutter) then sa pagitan ng dalwang turning vehicle.

g*go talaga.

[somniantis86]

That "sumusulpot kung saan saan" scenario will never happen on the expressways.
- speed limits are enforced except for exotics na alam ng lahat why enforcers turn a blind eye on them kasi ayaw matanggal sa trabaho
- no intersections in the expressways
- uni-directional traffic flow in the expressways, no counterflows (except for that Altis which is a CAR)
- speed differentials of different vehicles are only in the 70-100km/h range with a few exceptions. At those speed differentials with everyone else running, almost imposibleng magkaroon ng "gulatan" session with a small bike.

The expressways should actually be the least of your concerns when it comes to safety especially around motorcycles. Fact is, kung maalis na yung unconstitutional ban na yan, don't expect the jologs crowd to use it regularly if not at all because the toll fees alone are already exorbitant not just for them but even for everyday car drivers. Fact is, I only use them (whether car or bike) when running late kasi isang exit lang ang kailangan ko gamitin from home to work unlike those who live in the far south na patay sa traffic kung gagamit ng service roads all the way.

Lagi na lang may isang mc rider na pilit pa rin ijujustify yung mali niya kahit sobrang clear naman ng regulations. Kaya nagegeneralize na iskwater eh.

Tapos, hihirit na naman na 6 digits sweldo nila.

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[brainmafia_310]

That "sumusulpot kung saan saan" scenario will never happen on the expressways.
- speed limits are enforced except for exotics na alam ng lahat why enforcers turn a blind eye on them kasi ayaw matanggal sa trabaho
- no intersections in the expressways
- uni-directional traffic flow in the expressways, no counterflows (except for that Altis which is a CAR)
- speed differentials of different vehicles are only in the 70-100km/h range with a few exceptions. At those speed differentials with everyone else running, almost imposibleng magkaroon ng "gulatan" session with a small bike.

The expressways should actually be the least of your concerns when it comes to safety especially around motorcycles. Fact is, kung maalis na yung unconstitutional ban na yan, don't expect the jologs crowd to use it regularly if not at all because the toll fees alone are already exorbitant not just for them but even for everyday car drivers. Fact is, I only use them (whether car or bike) when running late kasi isang exit lang ang kailangan ko gamitin from home to work unlike those who live in the far south na patay sa traffic kung gagamit ng service roads all the way.

sorry boss, i do not agree on this. sa low speed or at stop lights ng intersection nagkakagulatan dahil sa daming tanga nakaunderbone at that speed pa?
thinking lalong mahihikayat mga yan na maglower ng motornila thinking na lalo silang bibilis at mawawalan ng drag ung underbone nila.

tito ko nakahinto sa kanto ng roxas blvd at airport road dahil pakaliwa siya. then all of a sudden after atleast 30s being stop in the stop light binangga siya ng tangang underbone - ang masama damage na kotse niya, gastos pa siya sa pampagamot ng gago. kung ako iyun at hindi lang ako takot sa diyos taena aatrasan ko ung hayup na iyun para mabawasan peste sa kalsada.

so kung matinong underbone rider ka, do it and continue to do it and be a good citizen, ngayon kung pati batas iquestion mo because of lousy excuse of class segregation, parang hindi ata tama.

hahahahah. sorry cant help it, IMHO lang iyan.

[k0mpressor]

Lagi na lang may isang mc rider na pilit pa rin ijujustify yung mali niya kahit sobrang clear naman ng regulations. Kaya nagegeneralize na iskwater eh.

Tapos, hihirit na naman na 6 digits sweldo nila.

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Wow, you speak like you have never gone beyond the speed limits, never bribed a traffic officer, never intentionally made a traffic violation or never sinned at all. Sige ipagpatuloy mo yan.

If you think I'm making up stories about the freeways ban, then you should research more. I wasn't even preaching about about going against the ordinances because it's something I do on a personal level to fight for my rights. I'm just trying to clear your misconception about how your safety will be compromised which is a total myth.


I can't blame you kung sarado na yung utak mo. After all, even I admit that I share the sentiments of most users here.

[k0mpressor]

sorry boss, i do not agree on this. sa low speed or at stop lights ng intersection nagkakagulatan dahil sa daming tanga nakaunderbone at that speed pa?
thinking lalong mahihikayat mga yan na maglower ng motornila thinking na lalo silang bibilis at mawawalan ng drag ung underbone nila.

tito ko nakahinto sa kanto ng roxas blvd at airport road dahil pakaliwa siya. then all of a sudden after atleast 30s being stop in the stop light binangga siya ng tangang underbone - ang masama damage na kotse niya, gastos pa siya sa pampagamot ng gago. kung ako iyun at hindi lang ako takot sa diyos taena aatrasan ko ung hayup na iyun para mabawasan peste sa kalsada.

so kung matinong underbone rider ka, do it and continue to do it and be a good citizen, ngayon kung pati batas iquestion mo because of lousy excuse of class segregation, parang hindi ata tama.

hahahahah. sorry cant help it, IMHO lang iyan.

Madaling magsalita coz you haven't experienced it yourself. I have also used small bikes on expressways where it's legal (like US na 150cc ang freeway minimum and Malaysia na kahit 100cc underbone ay expressway-legal kaya magtaka ka, why ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES MERONG SUB400 BAN?). Most "gulat" factors happen when there are stops or low speed instances especially in traffic. At the rate the expressways are going these days, are those instances very common?


Please do more research on the sub400 ban. Off topic na yan dito.

[somniantis86]

Wow, you speak like you have never gone beyond the speed limits, never bribed a traffic officer, never intentionally made a traffic violation or never sinned at all. Sige ipagpatuloy mo yan.

If you think I'm making up stories about the freeways ban, then you should research more. I wasn't even preaching about about going against the ordinances because it's something I do on a personal level to fight for my rights. I'm just trying to clear your misconception about how your safety will be compromised which is a total myth.


I can't blame you kung sarado na yung utak mo. After all, even I admit that I share the sentiments of most users here.

No, never pa sir.

And educated people here will recognize that you are just turning to poisoning the well because you can't reply with a valid argument anymore. Nakikiusap nga po ako ng maayos dahil bawal po kayo talaga sa expressway dahil hazard kayo.

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[brainmafia_310]

Madaling magsalita coz you haven't experienced it yourself. I have also used small bikes on expressways where it's legal (like US na 150cc ang freeway minimum and Malaysia na kahit 100cc underbone ay expressway-legal kaya magtaka ka, why ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES MERONG SUB400 BAN?). Most "gulat" factors happen when there are stops or low speed instances especially in traffic. At the rate the expressways are going these days, are those instances very common?


Please do more research on the sub400 ban. Off topic na yan dito.

you have been in the US, you have been in Malaysia - then why dont you stay in any of the two countries to use your udnerbone.

boss no need to do a research, just look at the streets and you know the difference.

why copmpared malaysia? why compared us? philippine is different and honestly and hate to admit it these two countries are far more mature than our beloved country.

Most "gulat" factors happen when there are stops or low speed instances especially in traffic

again i do not agree, stop nga eh, pano ka magugulat - di ba pag stop dapat stop na (otherwise may iabng definitions sa malaysia and US) or should at least reduce their speed until they are totally stop.

sorry i am just a poor boy my salary is way way below 6 digitz, i do njot have money to go to US or Malaysia.

[k0mpressor]

No, never pa sir.

If you say so.

[k0mpressor]

you have been in the US, you have been in Malaysia - then why dont you stay in any of the two countries to use your udnerbone.

boss no need to do a research, just look at the streets and you know the difference.

why copmpared malaysia? why compared us? philippine is different and honestly and hate to admit it these two countries are far more mature than our beloved country.



again i do not agree, stop nga eh, pano ka magugulat - di ba pag stop dapat stop na (otherwise may iabng definitions sa malaysia and US) or should at least reduce their speed until they are totally stop.

sorry i am just a poor boy my salary is way way below 6 digitz, i do njot have money to go to US or Malaysia.

Please read the context. I'm referring to stops as in traffic where most cars are either running very slow or stopped but motorcycles keep filtering without the courtesy kaya madaming gulat moments. Kasi pag nakita nilang kasya, pinipilit nila. Some cars tend to switch lanes pag nakitang may puwang na nabuksan (hindi agad nakaabante yung nasa likod) then madadale ng motor na sumisingit.


Small motorcycles cannot run more than 20% beyond the speed limits. So kahit 80 or 100 ang takbo mo, hindi ka magugulat kung merong mag attempt mag overtake sa iyo because more or less nasa 10-20% lang ang speed differential niya sa iyo.


Yes the Philippines is different. Because the Philippines has bigots who are in key positions as well as politicians who are the very reason why the class divide is just too wide. The filthy rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.


Do you even know what bike I use? It's so easy for you to generalize for me to use "my underbone" without knowing the facts, like what bike I ride everyday.

[brainmafia_310]

Please read the context. I'm referring to stops as in traffic where most cars are either running very slow or stopped but motorcycles keep filtering without the courtesy kaya madaming gulat moments. Kasi pag nakita nilang kasya, pinipilit nila. Some cars tend to switch lanes pag nakitang may puwang na nabuksan (hindi agad nakaabante yung nasa likod) then madadale ng motor na sumisingit.


Small motorcycles cannot run more than 20% beyond the speed limits. So kahit 80 or 100 ang takbo mo, hindi ka magugulat kung merong mag attempt mag overtake sa iyo because more or less nasa 10-20% lang ang speed differential niya sa iyo.


Yes the Philippines is different. Because the Philippines has bigots who are in key positions as well as politicians who are the very reason why the class divide is just too wide. The filthy rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.


Do you even know what bike I use? It's so easy for you to generalize for me to use "my underbone" without knowing the facts, like what bike I ride everyday.

again idol, no need to know any of your details.

again i do not agree even it is off topic

Yes the Philippines is different. Because the Philippines has bigots who are in key positions as well as politicians who are the very reason why the class divide is just too wide. The filthy rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.

so in the US it is not happening.

you are right on this

Small motorcycles cannot run more than 20% beyond the speed limits. So kahit 80 or 100 ang takbo mo, hindi ka magugulat kung merong mag attempt mag overtake sa iyo because more or less nasa 10-20% lang ang speed differential niya sa iyo.

however as you mentioned that they cannot run or more than 20% of the speed limits meaning that the engine is too strained for the expressway, broken pistons et.al. will pose another hazard to the motorists using the expressway.

kung madidisgrasya sila at hindi tatama sa ibang sasakayan walang problema pero at 100kph, whatever happen mahirap magmaneuver considering biglaan ito mangyayari. so in the end ung maayos na user ang madadale pagpinayagan ito sa expressway,.

[k0mpressor]

you are right on this however as you mentioned that they cannot run or more than 20% of the speed limits meaning that the engine is too strained for the expressway, broken pistons et.al. will pose another hazard to the motorists using the expressway.

kung madidisgrasya sila at hindi tatama sa ibang sasakayan walang problema pero at 100kph, whatever happen mahirap magmaneuver considering biglaan ito mangyayari. so in the end ung maayos na user ang madadale pagpinayagan ito sa expressway,.

Hard to believe but these so called highway breakdowns do not happen in real life nowadays. The "strained engine" myth is also one of the arguments that the opposing groups used during the deliberations back then but were easily debunked by the petitioners. It may still hold water if we are talking about old two stroke engines with defective autolube systems but those can already be considered as things of the past since more than 90% of motorcycles today, including business models already are on 4-stroke engines.


We did a north luzon ride way back 2005 and several small bikes including a stock 115cc yamaha mio, a stock 150cc Suzuki Raider, a stock 110cc kymco underbone and even a stock two-stroke 100cc Kymco scooter joined the ride (The rest were big displacement bikes and big scooters). The ride pace never went below 60km/h since it started in the wee hours of the morning and was averaging 80-100km/h on long stretches. From Manila to Tugegarao, the only food and bathroom stopovers were in San Jose, Nueva Ecija and Aritao in Nueva Viscaya. Considering the speeds and lengths of the said stretches, the expressways can be considered as a walk in the park since they are not as long and one can comfortably cruise on constant speeds compared to national highways with fewer lanes and lots of slow-moving trucks that need to be overtaken.

Regarding those said small bikes, again hard to believe but they are still running in good condition as of writing and have already clocked more than 100,000kms without overhauls. Straight/constant highway runs at 80-100km/h are actually better for those small four-stroke engines because the loads do not vary too much/are constant, the engine oil circulates freely and the engine is cooled way better than consistently accelerating and braking and accelerating and braking while dodging obstacles on national highways which was frequently experienced when passing capitols and town centers.


However, may mga pasaway din na mod ng mod ng mga motor nila. Yun yung mga nababalian ng mga con rods, natutukuran ng mga valves, seized pistons, etc. Even four wheelers have their own share of dilapidated units and owners who neglect or wrongfully mod their engines.

[brainmafia_310]

Hard to believe but these so called highway breakdowns do not happen in real life nowadays. The "strained engine" myth is also one of the arguments that the opposing groups used during the deliberations back then but were easily debunked by the petitioners. It may still hold water if we are talking about old two stroke engines with defective autolube systems but those can already be considered as things of the past since more than 90% of motorcycles today, including business models already are on 4-stroke engines.


We did a north luzon ride way back 2005 and several small bikes including a stock 115cc yamaha mio, a stock 150cc Suzuki Raider, a stock 110cc kymco underbone and even a stock two-stroke 100cc Kymco scooter joined the ride (The rest were big displacement bikes and big scooters). The ride pace never went below 60km/h since it started in the wee hours of the morning and was averaging 80-100km/h on long stretches. From Manila to Tugegarao, the only food and bathroom stopovers were in San Jose, Nueva Ecija and Aritao in Nueva Viscaya. Considering the speeds and lengths of the said stretches, the expressways can be considered as a walk in the park since they are not as long and one can comfortably cruise on constant speeds compared to national highways with fewer lanes and lots of slow-moving trucks that need to be overtaken.

Regarding those said small bikes, again hard to believe but they are still running in good condition as of writing and have already clocked more than 100,000kms without overhauls. Straight/constant highway runs at 80-100km/h are actually better for those small four-stroke engines because the loads do not vary too much/are constant, the engine oil circulates freely and the engine is cooled way better than consistently accelerating and braking and accelerating and braking while dodging obstacles on national highways which was frequently experienced when passing capitols and town centers.


However, may mga pasaway din na mod ng mod ng mga motor nila. Yun yung mga nababalian ng mga con rods, natutukuran ng mga valves, seized pistons, etc. Even four wheelers have their own share of dilapidated units and owners who neglect or wrongfully mod their engines.

why not do it daily so that we can test the myth.