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    #861
    The fallacy of generalisation. We will be able to recognise riders who rider safe because most of them have cars or have driven cars or are members of public forums that promote safe riding, discipline and other stuff. As we go back to basics and as I am waking this thread up, we must be well aware that driving, like any other discipline is a discipline. Redundant? Yes! We have to be disciplined, disciplined, disciplined. Even if the streets are filled with motorcycles, if most of them not all are disciplined then it would be a different story.

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    #862
    I don't think discipline is the keyword here for the riders. In m opinion, kung tatanungin mo lahat ng naka-motor kung bakit sila bumili ng motor eh ang isasagot nila ay "para makasingit at makapunta sa sa lugar na nais nilang puntahan sa pinakamabilis na paraan." I'll say 90% of those riders are like this. Example na lang eh sa parking space kung saan iisa lang ang Entrance at Exit, aba pati doon ay sisingit pa...I don't call what to call it, stupid, ignorant or whatever...I also ride a motorcycle but I know how to respect other motorists(only those who respect other).

    Masasabi ba natin na dahil sa "walang pinag-aralan"? Hmmm...I encountered lots of people inside the shopping mall, airlines and banks...Ang tanong...marunong ba silang pumila? Sagot" H I N D I...SO what's the problem here? Dahil mga Filipino kasi? i don't think so...I still see people who know how to fall in line. Panlalamang sa kapwa...most likely? Or WALANG HIYA? Sa tingin ko eh ayan ang kasagutan sa mga taong hindi marunong pumila...Mayaman man o mahirap ay nakakakita ako ng mga WALANG HIYA! I really don't think it's discpline...

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    #863
    I saw rider na pumila sa cashier ng parking ng mall, kaso siningitan naman siya ng isang fortuner. So it all boils down to respect for the other guy whether on four or two wheels.

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    #864
    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post
    I don't think discipline is the keyword here for the riders. In m opinion, kung tatanungin mo lahat ng naka-motor kung bakit sila bumili ng motor eh ang isasagot nila ay "para makasingit at makapunta sa sa lugar na nais nilang puntahan sa pinakamabilis na paraan." I'll say 90% of those riders are like this. Example na lang eh sa parking space kung saan iisa lang ang Entrance at Exit, aba pati doon ay sisingit pa...I don't call what to call it, stupid, ignorant or whatever...I also ride a motorcycle but I know how to respect other motorists(only those who respect other).

    Masasabi ba natin na dahil sa "walang pinag-aralan"? Hmmm...I encountered lots of people inside the shopping mall, airlines and banks...Ang tanong...marunong ba silang pumila? Sagot" H I N D I...SO what's the problem here? Dahil mga Filipino kasi? i don't think so...I still see people who know how to fall in line. Panlalamang sa kapwa...most likely? Or WALANG HIYA? Sa tingin ko eh ayan ang kasagutan sa mga taong hindi marunong pumila...Mayaman man o mahirap ay nakakakita ako ng mga WALANG HIYA! I really don't think it's discpline...
    AKA walang malasakit ... parang sa MRT araw-araw

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    #865
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    I saw rider na pumila sa cashier ng parking ng mall, kaso siningitan naman siya ng isang fortuner. So it all boils down to respect for the other guy whether on four or two wheels.

    hmmmm....

    Ang hirap naman ata gawin yun na singitan yung motor na nakapila na. Unang-una siguradong nakatutok yan sa likod ng sasakyan na pinilahan niya so napaka-liit ng window para makasingit yung fortuner...Paano kaya nangyari yun?

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    #866
    Hindi ba't disiplina naman yun?

    Lining up, giving way, being considerate. Discipline is following a particular code of behavior, in this case, proper road etiquette.

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    #867
    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post

    hmmmm....

    Ang hirap naman ata gawin yun na singitan yung motor na nakapila na. Unang-una siguradong nakatutok yan sa likod ng sasakyan na pinilahan niya so napaka-liit ng window para makasingit yung fortuner...Paano kaya nangyari yun?
    FYI a motorcycle is not as wide a four wheeled vehicle. So coming from behind, pag tinabihan mo yun motor already half the car is already nasa pila na, then you could just box him out.

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    #868
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Hindi ba't disiplina naman yun?

    Lining up, giving way, being considerate. Discipline is following a particular code of behavior, in this case, proper road etiquette.
    yan ang trait na kulang na kulang ang karamihan ng pinoy.

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    #869
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    FYI a motorcycle is not as wide a four wheeled vehicle. So coming from behind, pag tinabihan mo yun motor already half the car is already nasa pila na, then you could just box him out.

    I really don't think that it's possible. Once na nakatutok na yung motorsiklo sa likod ng kotseng kanyang sinusundan eh napakababa ng posibilidad na masingitan pa siya ng 4 wheel. It might be possible on a slow moving traffic pero kung sa papasok ng parking na talagang mabagal andar ng sasakyan. But, anyways...if you saw it, then you saw it.

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    #870
    Quote Originally Posted by ZENMasterTYL View Post
    yan ang trait na kulang na kulang ang karamihan ng pinoy.
    Dadami yan pag manghuhuli na talaga ang mga nagpapatupad. Kaya konti sumusunod kasi puro kotong imbes magpatupad at manghuli sa violators. Kaya umunlad mga karatig nating bansa kasi kamay na bakal gamit, walang peteks sa taga pagpatupad. Pag seryoso sa taas, makikita at mapapansin sa baba yan. Eventually, susunod lahat

Too many PASAWAY motorcycle RIDERS  on the street