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    #1941
    Quote Originally Posted by brainmafia_310 View Post
    why not do it daily so that we can test the myth.
    Been there, done that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0mpressor View Post
    Been there, done that.
    whatever dude.

    i am happy underbones are banned from major roads especially on the expressway.

    in case in the future, whatever argument you have we still have opposing idea and honestly, if my opinion matter, i will still defer inclusions of underbones in the expressway.

    I am done and lets move one. i dont want to hijack the thread and you can point whatever you want, you can argue all the things you have done but still "NO UNDERBONE ON THE EXPRESSWAY".

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    #1943
    Quote Originally Posted by somniantis86 View Post
    Lagi na lang may isang mc rider na pilit pa rin ijujustify yung mali niya kahit sobrang clear naman ng regulations. Kaya nagegeneralize na iskwater eh.

    Tapos, hihirit na naman na 6 digits sweldo nila.

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    Pagnaka bangga ang mga syento bente motor yung 6 digits biglang nagiging 6 pesos lang ang nasa wallet pero may pang modify para makaupak Labo..hahaha.
    Yung si Pamparegla aka Pampam the thin tall guy with acne nagingay na naman kaning 6:41am Sept 25,2013. Gamit yung kanyang black honda much more syento bente motorcycle wave.
    Huwag sana maisip ng government or kung sino man na payagan ang mga below 400cc na motor sa expressway kahit na sa ibang basa pwede sila magexpressway.Takaw aksidente ang mangyayari isipin mo oovertake ka biglang may kalabog kang maririnig sa likod mo dahil kakaupak nung mga small motorcycle na yun..
    Last edited by gearspeed; September 25th, 2013 at 09:21 AM.

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    #1945
    i used to drive a subcompact that has curb weight of 1.1tons (mas mabigat pa sa actual dahil sa mga karga at pasahero). if i get overtaken by a bus or a truck with trailers on nlex and sctex, i can feel how the wind pounds the car and move it somehow. Just dont know if an underbone can handle it with its light and thin frame and thin tires.

    Quote Originally Posted by k0mpressor View Post
    Hard to believe but these so called highway breakdowns do not happen in real life nowadays. The "strained engine" myth is also one of the arguments that the opposing groups used during the deliberations back then but were easily debunked by the petitioners. It may still hold water if we are talking about old two stroke engines with defective autolube systems but those can already be considered as things of the past since more than 90% of motorcycles today, including business models already are on 4-stroke engines.


    We did a north luzon ride way back 2005 and several small bikes including a stock 115cc yamaha mio, a stock 150cc Suzuki Raider, a stock 110cc kymco underbone and even a stock two-stroke 100cc Kymco scooter joined the ride (The rest were big displacement bikes and big scooters). The ride pace never went below 60km/h since it started in the wee hours of the morning and was averaging 80-100km/h on long stretches. From Manila to Tugegarao, the only food and bathroom stopovers were in San Jose, Nueva Ecija and Aritao in Nueva Viscaya. Considering the speeds and lengths of the said stretches, the expressways can be considered as a walk in the park since they are not as long and one can comfortably cruise on constant speeds compared to national highways with fewer lanes and lots of slow-moving trucks that need to be overtaken.

    Regarding those said small bikes, again hard to believe but they are still running in good condition as of writing and have already clocked more than 100,000kms without overhauls. Straight/constant highway runs at 80-100km/h are actually better for those small four-stroke engines because the loads do not vary too much/are constant, the engine oil circulates freely and the engine is cooled way better than consistently accelerating and braking and accelerating and braking while dodging obstacles on national highways which was frequently experienced when passing capitols and town centers.


    However, may mga pasaway din na mod ng mod ng mga motor nila. Yun yung mga nababalian ng mga con rods, natutukuran ng mga valves, seized pistons, etc. Even four wheelers have their own share of dilapidated units and owners who neglect or wrongfully mod their engines.

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    #1946
    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    We'll there goes karma and another karma and another karma.hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    Ang Galing niya! Woohoo!

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    #1948
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord View Post
    i used to drive a subcompact that has curb weight of 1.1tons (mas mabigat pa sa actual dahil sa mga karga at pasahero). if i get overtaken by a bus or a truck with trailers on nlex and sctex, i can feel how the wind pounds the car and move it somehow. Just dont know if an underbone can handle it with its light and thin frame and thin tires.
    Sir been there done that daw po. iba magisip mga 6 figures na sweldo.

    alam niya na majority eh gumagawa ng kapalpakan pero ijujustify niya para sa sarili niya without thinking the repercussion sa iabng tao (na nakararami).

    homaygad sikspijoors.

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    #1949
    Quote Originally Posted by brainmafia_310 View Post
    Sir been there done that daw po. iba magisip mga 6 figures na sweldo.

    alam niya na majority eh gumagawa ng kapalpakan pero ijujustify niya para sa sarili niya without thinking the repercussion sa iabng tao (na nakararami).

    homaygad sikspijoors.
    Sir, late naman na daw kc cya, kayo naman. 6 digits sweldo niya, d pwede maabala pra sa kapakanan ng iba.

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    #1950
    Again, bigots conclude very easily without even knowing the facts. Wala akong sinasabing figures ng income ko pero "I therefore conclude" na agad kayo na 6 digits ang suweldo ko. Hindi niyo pa nga alam kung anong bike ang dinadala ko and yet you conclude agad na nagpapasok ako ng underbone sa expressways.


    I can't blame kung bakit ganyan takbo ng utak niyo. Ganyan siguro kayo pinalaki....sobrang entitled.

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    #1951
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord View Post
    i used to drive a subcompact that has curb weight of 1.1tons (mas mabigat pa sa actual dahil sa mga karga at pasahero). if i get overtaken by a bus or a truck with trailers on nlex and sctex, i can feel how the wind pounds the car and move it somehow. Just dont know if an underbone can handle it with its light and thin frame and thin tires.
    That is the infamous "wind myth" you are talking about.

    Imagine you are standing on the sidewalk then an 18 wheeler trucker running at 80km/h passes by which creates a gust of wind. Your speed is zero km/h and weigh just like an average human adult (way lighter than a motorcycle). Tumilapon ka ba? Do you get shredded into pieces?


    Now imagine the same you standing on the very same sidewalk but this time holding a 3x8 plywood horizontally then the same scenario happens. Bilangin mo na lang kung ilang feet ka mauurong.


    Again, hard to believe but it's the bigger full faired motorcycles that are more susceptible to sudden wind gusts but it would still not be enough to throw them off their lane. Just a correction on the handlebars will do. As far as small motorcycles, it's almost just like slicing against the wind. Ayaw mo maniwala, try it yourself. If you are too afraid to do so, then you're better off inside your box.


    Just like nung may bagyo circa 2006 ata when there were a lot of elf trucks with aluminum cabs na natumba while traversing edsa, C5 and CP Garcia in UP but no incidents for motorcycles. The more surface na binabangga ng wind, the more susceptible it is to being thrown away. That's why you'd feel the wind draft more on cars and vans, even buses but not so on motorcycles.

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    #1952
    dami talagang g*gong nakamotor ang kikitid na ng mga utak, or baka bloated dahil sa hangin ang tatanga pa mag isip.

    mga ASSuming.

    heheheheh

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    Points well taken. Just wouldnt dare to try it though on abike. Pero sa totoo lang kahit nasa kalye at may mabilis na takbo ng truck kahit nakatayo eh ramdam mo yung hampas ng hangin. Matutumba ba? Hindi naman.

    Im an occasional bike rider din. I just prefer mountain trails. Buti sa bundok mga hazards katulad ng puno at bato eh hindi kumikilos. Sa kalye yung mga hazards gumagalaw.

    Quote Originally Posted by k0mpressor View Post
    That is the infamous "wind myth" you are talking about.

    Imagine you are standing on the sidewalk then an 18 wheeler trucker running at 80km/h passes by which creates a gust of wind. Your speed is zero km/h and weigh just like an average human adult (way lighter than a motorcycle). Tumilapon ka ba? Do you get shredded into pieces?


    Now imagine the same you standing on the very same sidewalk but this time holding a 3x8 plywood horizontally then the same scenario happens. Bilangin mo na lang kung ilang feet ka mauurong.


    Again, hard to believe but it's the bigger full faired motorcycles that are more susceptible to sudden wind gusts but it would still not be enough to throw them off their lane. Just a correction on the handlebars will do. As far as small motorcycles, it's almost just like slicing against the wind. Ayaw mo maniwala, try it yourself. If you are too afraid to do so, then you're better off inside your box.


    Just like nung may bagyo circa 2006 ata when there were a lot of elf trucks with aluminum cabs na natumba while traversing edsa, C5 and CP Garcia in UP but no incidents for motorcycles. The more surface na binabangga ng wind, the more susceptible it is to being thrown away. That's why you'd feel the wind draft more on cars and vans, even buses but not so on motorcycles.

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    #1954
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord View Post
    Points well taken. Just wouldnt dare to try it though on abike. Pero sa totoo lang kahit nasa kalye at may mabilis na takbo ng truck kahit nakatayo eh ramdam mo yung hampas ng hangin. Matutumba ba? Hindi naman.

    Im an occasional bike rider din. I just prefer mountain trails. Buti sa bundok mga hazards katulad ng puno at bato eh hindi kumikilos. Sa kalye yung mga hazards gumagalaw.
    I have speedster friends who own liter bikes back then who gave up the speed thrill because they discovered the beauty of the mountain trails, whether on a mt bike or a dual sport/offroad motorcycle. The adrenaline rush while blasting away at highways in excess of 200km/h is nothing compared to being able to do 20km/h on the trails.


    Very true din na iba talaga ang hazards sa kalye. A lot of them act like they own the streets.

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    #1955
    Cant do 20kph on the trails. Mabilis na yung 5-10kph. Hindi ko lang din kaya magmotor sa kalye. Daming barumbadong jeep at rider.

    Quote Originally Posted by k0mpressor View Post
    I have speedster friends who own liter bikes back then who gave up the speed thrill because they discovered the beauty of the mountain trails, whether on a mt bike or a dual sport/offroad motorcycle. The adrenaline rush while blasting away at highways in excess of 200km/h is nothing compared to being able to do 20km/h on the trails.


    Very true din na iba talaga ang hazards sa kalye. A lot of them act like they own the streets.

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    #1956
    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    potek ....hari ng stunt.

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    Isa lang masasabi ko sa mga riders na yan. Salot sa kalye at sa bansa! Brainless riders abound now the streets of metro, kung sino pa ang nasa mali sila pa matapang. Pweh! Mga salot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0mpressor View Post
    That is the infamous "wind myth" you are talking about.

    Imagine you are standing on the sidewalk then an 18 wheeler trucker running at 80km/h passes by which creates a gust of wind. Your speed is zero km/h and weigh just like an average human adult (way lighter than a motorcycle). Tumilapon ka ba? Do you get shredded into pieces?


    Now imagine the same you standing on the very same sidewalk but this time holding a 3x8 plywood horizontally then the same scenario happens. Bilangin mo na lang kung ilang feet ka mauurong.


    Again, hard to believe but it's the bigger full faired motorcycles that are more susceptible to sudden wind gusts but it would still not be enough to throw them off their lane. Just a correction on the handlebars will do. As far as small motorcycles, it's almost just like slicing against the wind. Ayaw mo maniwala, try it yourself. If you are too afraid to do so, then you're better off inside your box.


    Just like nung may bagyo circa 2006 ata when there were a lot of elf trucks with aluminum cabs na natumba while traversing edsa, C5 and CP Garcia in UP but no incidents for motorcycles. The more surface na binabangga ng wind, the more susceptible it is to being thrown away. That's why you'd feel the wind draft more on cars and vans, even buses but not so on motorcycles.
    Iba talaga. Bilib ako sa logic. Mythbuster ang dating. Pero kahit sa medyo malaki sasakyan na natry ko ramdam na ramdam ang drag.

    Idol, tutal mahilig ka naman magexperiment. Try mo tumakbo ng 80kph sa kahit saang hiway tipong fun run (kesa nakatayo ka lang sa kalsada) tapos tumabi ka sa bus na running 80kph din or better try to overtake. Tsaka mo sabihin dito result with video.

    Ako im happy inside the box. No underbones and below sa expressway.

    Btt: iba talaga magisip mga six digits.

    Taena kanina sa commerce may harang pakanan ng aav sa pagitan ng harang at sa katitingnna gap sumingit ang hayup. Pagnakagasgas kamot sa ulo laging dahilan - kung hindi man mawawala parang bulang hinangin.

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    Sorry nagdouble po.
    Last edited by brainmafia_310; September 26th, 2013 at 08:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neitz View Post
    Isa lang masasabi ko sa mga riders na yan. Salot sa kalye at sa bansa! Brainless riders abound now the streets of metro, kung sino pa ang nasa mali sila pa matapang. Pweh! Mga salot!
    wag mo naman sana lahatin sir

Too many PASAWAY motorcycle RIDERS  on the street