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    Kulang na lang sabihin mo para maayos ang peace and order ng bansa ay mag martial law. Hehehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vvti2.0 View Post
    Ramones283, hindi pinupulot ang pera at wala ka sa ideal scenario na kung gusto mo mag upgrade or mag over engineer eh pwede mo gawin sa isang iglap. Sa point of view ng isang safety engineer, may 3 options ka para mag implement ng safety. Mayroon ka engineering control, yan na yung barriers, mayroon ka admin control, yan na yung mga safety signs, warnings etc.., and meron ka personnel protective equipment, yan na yung seatbelts etc.. Ngayun kahit anung gawin mo dyan, kung sadyang tanga at matigas ulo ng mga tao, sa kanila na yun.

    Sa statistics ba ng lumilipad sa skyway, ano ba cause nung accident? Reckless driving ba or kahit yung matino magmaneho eh nahuhulog?
    Hehe ikaw naman sir, syempre kailangan gumastos para sa safety. Ano ba gusto mo sir? Aasa nalang sa 'internation standards nila'? Samantalang maraming tangang driver dyan na nakakalat lang sa paligid natin? At pwedeng ikaw ay mabiktima rin. Papayag ka ba sa ganun lang? Pasensya nalang dahil nag overspeed si ano at nalaglagan ka ng sasakyan?

    We need now the cure, hindi yung puro sisi nalang sa suspek then mangyayari ulit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramones283 View Post
    Yup but we can prevent them again from doing it, right? Pababayaan mo nalang bang mabiktima ka ng mga tanga?
    Prevent what?

    idiots being reckless will always be reckless idiots.

    Hindi nga nahulog, naka-aksidente naman ng ibang sasakyan sa taas ng skyway. May kinaiba ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramones283 View Post
    Hehe ikaw naman sir, syempre kailangan gumastos para sa safety. Ano ba gusto mo sir? Aasa nalang sa 'internation standards nila'? Samantalang maraming tangang driver dyan na nakakalat lang sa paligid natin? At pwedeng ikaw ay mabiktima rin. Papayag ka ba sa ganun lang? Pasensya nalang dahil nag overspeed si ano at nalaglagan ka ng sasakyan?

    We need now the cure, hindi yung puro sisi nalang sa suspek then mangyayari ulit.
    err what can deter overspeeders?

    Yes, enforcers can always apprehend them, still it will not stop one from overspeeding.

    Disiplina talaga ang sagot dyan.

    Put humps maybe? but that's stupid.

    it will all boil down to discipline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Prevent what?

    idiots being reckless will always be reckless idiots.

    Hindi nga nahulog, naka-aksidente naman ng ibang sasakyan sa taas ng skyway. May kinaiba ba?
    It's a different story. We're talking about here the 'international standard' of their railings why vehicles keeps falling on skyway. Now, your story is about more on tangang driver na. Again, wala tayong magagawa kung nakaugalian na ng ibang tao ang maging reckless. The only we can only do is, pushed the skyway mngt to strengthen or better update/upgrade their railings to prevent vehicles falling on that elevated highway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramones283 View Post
    Yup but we can prevent them again from doing it, right? Pababayaan mo nalang bang mabiktima ka ng mga tanga?
    In the first place, they must meet requirements

    Second, if they meet requirements but break the law, punish them

    Third, if they continue to make the same offenses( recidivist) revoke their driver's license.

    And somehow it is a Filipino trait; pwede na yan and sakaling makakusot has to stop.

    Integrity is what most Filipinos don't have.
    Do the right thing or do it right even if no one is watching

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Prevent what?

    idiots being reckless will always be reckless idiots.
    +1 on this. Driver stupidity trumps any form of engineering currently known to man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    err what can deter overspeeders?

    Yes, enforcers can always apprehend them, still it will not stop one from overspeeding.

    Disiplina talaga ang sagot dyan.

    Put humps maybe? but that's stupid.

    it will all boil down to discipline.
    Yes sir discipline is what we need most here in our roads. But hey, hindi lahat ng tao kaya nyong paki-usapan ng ganyan lalo na dito sa bansa natin na walang kaukulang mabigat na parusa. Sigurado parusa lang sa mga overspeeder na yan at makabiktima kulong na ilang araw at multa. Kung bigatan nila ng ilang taon na kulong yan at mabigat na penalty mababawasan ang mga ganyang klaseng driver. Unlike sa davao, the best ang rules of law dun. Kung mabigat lang ang parusa sa atin, wala ng kailangang baguhin at ayusin sa kalye. Pero kung ang batas natin mismo palpak, kanino nalang tayo aasa para maiwasan ung mga nahuhulog sa skyway, diba sa skyway mngt din?

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    #209
    palitan ng pader (mga 10 ft high) yung railings. ewan ko lang kung may malaglag pa pababa.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    In the first place, they must meet requirements

    Second, if they meet requirements but break the law, punish them

    Third, if they continue to make the same offenses( recidivist) revoke their driver's license.

    And somehow it is a Filipino trait; pwede na yan and sakaling makakusot has to stop.

    Integrity is what most Filipinos don't have.
    Do the right thing or do it right even if no one is watching
    Masarap sana pakinggan diba kung nasusunod yung mga ganyang requirements. Pero sa bansa natin, aasa ka pa bang masunod yan sa panahon ngayon.

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    kung wala lang mapeperwisyo sa baba ng skyway mas maganda ata na alisin na lang yung railings, tignan naten kung di magtino/mag ingat yung mga tao sa pagddrive LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramones283 View Post
    Yes sir discipline is what we need most here in our roads. But hey, hindi lahat ng tao kaya nyong paki-usapan ng ganyan lalo na dito sa bansa natin na walang kaukulang mabigat na parusa. Sigurado parusa lang sa mga overspeeder na yan at makabiktima kulong na ilang araw at multa. Kung bigatan nila ng ilang taon na kulong yan at mabigat na penalty mababawasan ang mga ganyang klaseng driver. Unlike sa davao, the best ang rules of law dun. Kung mabigat lang ang parusa sa atin, wala ng kailangang baguhin at ayusin sa kalye. Pero kung ang batas natin mismo palpak, kanino nalang tayo aasa para maiwasan ung mga nahuhulog sa skyway, diba sa skyway mngt din?
    Parang ang concern mo lang kasi is pagkahulog mula sa taas ng skyway?

    Sige lets put it this way, skyway built a sturdy doomsday proof railings, OO Wala na talaga mahuhulog pababa.

    Still meron pa din patay kung patay magmaneho makakadisgrasya pa din sila diba? hindi nga lang mahuhulog.

    kaya nga i asked what's the difference? deterrent sa pagkahulog OO pero yung meron madidisgrasya is andyan pa din.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramones283 View Post
    Masarap sana pakinggan diba kung nasusunod yung mga ganyang requirements. Pero sa bansa natin, aasa ka pa bang masunod yan sa panahon ngayon.
    Sounds like it's hopeless and we'll just give up? As what BDO say "we find ways". Sounds better than "it's hopeless" or I give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Parang ang concern mo lang kasi is pagkahulog mula sa taas ng skyway?

    Sige lets put it this way, skyway built a sturdy doomsday proof railings, OO Wala na talaga mahuhulog pababa.

    Still meron pa din patay kung patay magmaneho makakadisgrasya pa din sila diba? hindi nga lang mahuhulog.

    kaya nga i asked what's the difference? deterrent sa pagkahulog OO pero yung meron madidisgrasya is andyan pa din.
    Sir, alam naman natin lahat yan. Aksidente ay aksidente, patay kung patay. In your case, the problem now is more on stupidity of the driver, not the road. Hindi na natin maaalis sa tao ang pagiging reckless nya.

    The reason why i'm more concern sa pagkahulog ng saaskyan sa skyway is, nasa skyway thread kayo at eto ang topic. Now if you want a different topic to discuss about reckless drivers, create a thread and usap tayo duon. Gets na po?

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    Quote Originally Posted by foresterx View Post
    why do people keep blaming the design of the skyway barriers and not blame the idiot reckless drivers instead? lahat naman ng nalaglag jan sa skyway diba reckless driving kaya na laglag. di ako mag kukunwari na di ako nag oover speeding jan sa skyway kasi i always do pero di naman ako nalalaglag. you need to combine both overspeeding and reckless driving para malaglag jan sa skyway. wag din tayo mag paka inosente dahil halos lahat din naman ng dumadaan jan lumalagpas ng 100kph. madami lang kasi talagang kung sumingit kala mo wala ng bukas or todo todo sagad mga kotse nila kaya na wawalan ng control at nalalaglag jan.
    Yung service ng skyway na nahulog or muntik mahulog di naman reckless yun.
    The point is they need to mitigate the risk. If they perform the proper risk assessment makikita nila na aside from preventing idiot drivers from performing idiotic acts e they need to adjust the barriers as well or maybe need to improve the road as well. Nakakabwisit lang sa management ng skyway hugas kamay agad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    Sounds like it's hopeless and we'll just give up? As what BDO say "we find ways". Sounds better than "it's hopeless" or I give up.
    Well, sa panahon ngayon wala tayong maasahan. Sa future pa siguro pwede nating makilala ang mag aayos sa bansa natin. Malay nyo pinapanganak palang ung sunod na magiging magaling na presidente natin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bin Diesel View Post
    Yung service ng skyway na nahulog or muntik mahulog di naman reckless yun.
    The point is they need to mitigate the risk. If they perform the proper risk assessment makikita nila na aside from preventing idiot drivers from performing idiotic acts e they need to adjust the barriers as well or maybe need to improve the road as well. Nakakabwisit lang sa management ng skyway hugas kamay agad.
    Yon sa wakas, may nakaintindi sa thread ng skyway.

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    ayan.
    ano dapat baguhin sa railings para tumibay. any suggestions?



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    For starters I believe they need to raise it a little, reinforce those cylindrical bars, and maybe put tickle bars near the side to warn sleepy drivers they are at the edge or nearing the edge of the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    ayan.
    ano dapat baguhin sa railings para tumibay. any suggestions?


    Raise that cement side wall up to that steel cylindrical bars then lay that bars on top of the heighten cement side wall. And also thicken the side walls hanggang maalis yang gutter. Pwede kasing yan pa mag trigger kung bakit rumarampa yung mga matataas na sasakyan pababa.

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