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  1. Join Date
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    Ang laki ng sign, "BAWAL TUMAWID", kasi nga busy street. Eh matigas ulo ni mister, tumawid. Nakipag-patintero sa mga sasakyan. Boogg!!! na-orthopedic tuloy.:injured: Sinong may sala? Driver? (hindi naman lasing)

    Me nagpapark sa gilid ng kalsada. Eh wala naman No Parking sign. Si driver, look to the left side mirror, look to right side mirror. Yung isang ale, nakatayo sa me gutter ng bangketa, eh biglang bumaba kahit nakikita na nya yung umaatras na kotse. Boogg!!! Nauntog tuloy sya. :faint: Sinong may sala? Driver? (hindi naman sabog)

    Medyo masikip ang kalsada. Pero may bangketa naman. Kung bakit naman itong si ***y, sa kalsada naglalakad. Ayan tuloy, nasagi sya ng Expedition. Boogg!!! Nagka-scratch tuloy ang flawless skin na ipinagpa-salamat-po-doktor pa nya. :ouch: Sinong may sala? Driver? (hindi naman praning)

    Sa EDSA, sabi ni poging pasahero sa kundoktor ng bus na sinasakyan nya: "Para na dito." Sagot ni kundoktor: "Dun na lang po sa loading/unloading area." Eh feeling stuntman si pogi, tumalon palabas ng bus. Bigla me humarurot na porsche na malay ba naman nya na me stuntman sa gitna ng EDSA. Sapul si Pogi! Basag ang bungo, labas ang isaw! :rip: Sinong may sala? Driver? (hindi naman bangag)

    Si nanay naman, hindi hinawakan si 4 yrs old na baby. Tumakbo tuloy ang bata sa kalsada. Aysus, sa liit ba naman nyang yun, hindi tuloy sya nakita ng driver ng 16-wheeler na truck. Boogg!! Ay! Kawawa naman yung bata! :angel2: Sinong may sala? Driver? (hindi naman inaantok)

    Just wondering, why is it that in most road accidents that occurred as such, major or minor, drivers are usually blamed? Is it the driver's fault if the pedestrians are stubborn? Drivers are usually assumed and presumed to be the culprit whereas the pedestrians are more often than not, the victim. Yes, indeed, there is a phrase which said: "Be a responsible driver". But as for the pedestrian, be a responsible one as well.

    To avoid accidents like these, it is only but proper for both drivers and pedestrians to be road-rules-abiding-citizens. Should everybody do so, accidents could be prevented.

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    i guess those are rhetorical questions...? :hihihi:

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    In my view, dapat PEDESTRIAN ANG MAY SALA! Pero ang alam ko sa Philippine laws, pedestrian muna bago driver. In short, mukhang driver ang palaging may sala. If it's not written in the constitution then I think usually court decisions are in favor of the pedestrians mainly coz of pity!! Pero pag ako yung judge, sesermonan ko pa yung pedestrian.

    Which comes to another question... why are there many irresponsible pedestrians? I'll put the blame on the government. Dahil sa kakulangan ng mga pedestrian facilities and kapabayaan sa mga illegal parking, mga ogags ng PUV drivers, etc... no other choice ang pedestrians but to become "irresponsible" (ie... magkipag-patintero sa mga kotse, dahil walang sapat na pedestrian crossing; naglalakad sa kalsada dahil may mga naka-park na kotse sa bangketa).

    But when it comes to EDSA and other national highways, ogagas na talaga mga pedestrians who cross these huge roads. Ang sarap sagasaan!!!! That's why I can't blame the MMDA in putting up the pink fences!!!

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    Life > anything material.

    Bakit ba kasi may mga nahalong !^*& sa gene pool. :lol:

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    palitan lang ang batas na fair at d favorable always sa pedestrian...

    tignan lng natin kung hinde tumino yang mga lokong tawid ng tawid kahit bawal...

    ganyan naman ang mga tao dito satin....kelangan kamay na bakal para tumino....

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    I think meron yatang law na pag 4 yrs old or is it 6 yrs old below ag nabangga mo walang kasalanan driver, dahil parents should be responsible pag ganyan age...

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    Yan ang mahirap, driver lang ang nag-aaral sa mga rules sa kalye(d pa nga lahat, lalo na mga tricycle driver), eh ang mga pedestrian/commuters nasa kalye din.

    Suggestion ko lang, dapat me motoring subject come Grade 4 to 6 para lahat me alam sa kalye.

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    I think it's the same case when pedestrians think that absolutely nothing will happen to them when they step on the ped lane. Dead Wrong .

    Pedestrians, like me, cannot rely everything on the driver of the oncoming vehicle. We also have to think and react smartly, this way the probability of getting hit from any direction will be lessened dramatically.

    Stupidity borders the fine line between life and death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flex View Post
    palitan lang ang batas na fair at d favorable always sa pedestrian...

    tignan lng natin kung hinde tumino yang mga lokong tawid ng tawid kahit bawal...

    ganyan naman ang mga tao dito satin....kelangan kamay na bakal para tumino....
    korek ka dyan papi .. dapat liwanagin nila ang batas na kung hindi sa tamang tawiran na-aksidente yung tumawid dapat walang sagutin ang driver na nakabangga lalo ka nung sa hiway nangyari.. malakas loob nila dahil alam nila na kaya nilang panagutin ang driver pag nabangga sila nito eh.. mga pasaway na pedestrian.. hay! :headache:

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    pag lumabas ka ng kotse pedestrian ka na!

    ang dapat kainisan ang mga drayber na hindi sumusunod sa trapiko. ano yan, binili mo lisensya mo?

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    Ang dapat, driver AND pedestrian sumunod sa batas-trapiko para maiwasan ang aksidente.

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    May mga tumatawid ng commonwealth nang madaling araw... lahat ng kotseng dumadaan 100+ kph ang takbo. Walang sinabi yung EXTREME GAMES.

    Ano masasabi nyo tungkol sa mga tumatawid sa ilalim ng footbridge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharnhorst View Post
    May mga tumatawid ng commonwealth nang madaling araw... lahat ng kotseng dumadaan 100+ kph ang takbo. Walang sinabi yung EXTREME GAMES.

    Ano masasabi nyo tungkol sa mga tumatawid sa ilalim ng footbridge?
    Tanga yun. pero alam mo naman na maraming tumatawid dyan, bat di ka nag-miminor?

    Remember, the driver should know all written laws of the road, the pedestrian doesn't. It is always the fault of the driver if he runs over the pedestrian. Let the traffic police do their job in reprimanding these pedestrians. If, you can't comprehend that, then you must stop driving.

    Kung masagasaan mo yan at mamatay, kaya ba ng konsensya mo?

    I agree with hominid in including traffic rules and regulation in the school curriculum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    Tanga yun. pero alam mo naman na maraming tumatawid dyan, bat di ka nag-miminor?
    It was just an observation. hehe. Di naman talaga pwede magmabilis pag malapit na sa footbridge since:

    1) minsan hindi ginagamit ang footbridge
    2) half the road is occupied by waiting jeepneys and buses

    As a ped myself, oo nga, hassle sa umpisa ang pag akyat baba sa footbridge, mahirap umakyat minsan lalo na pag malayo ang footbridge o pag may dalang mabigat, pero mas okey naman yon kesa makipag patintero sa sasakyan.

    Ni ayoko ngang makasagasa ng aso o pusa, tao pa kaya?
    Last edited by scharnhorst; September 16th, 2007 at 12:49 PM. Reason: addendum

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    oist wag kayo ganyan. baka "daw" labagin nanaman ang "karapatang pantao" nameng mga pedestrians. hahaha

    kung driver ka, be responsible enough sa lahat ng bagay kapag nasa kalsada.
    kung pedestrian ka, be responsible enough din na sumunod sa mga tamang patakaran sa kalsada.

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    Guys, just play it safe na lang. Oras na nadali mo sila alam mong tingin ng ibang tao is ikaw ang may sala. Ideally the drivers should always yield to pedestrians, tama man sila or mali. Like somebody mentioned earlier, drivers should know better, that's why they have the license to drive. Pedestrians might not know as much as drivers do, but pedestrians who happen to also have a license know better, but it's nearly impossible to discern who is who.

    Although I admit I've had my fair share of experiences (Manggahan area, mall areas where the security guard tells the drivers to go yet peds also cross, etc) it's best to just play it safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbeige View Post
    Guys, just play it safe na lang. Oras na nadali mo sila alam mong tingin ng ibang tao is ikaw ang may sala. Ideally the drivers should always yield to pedestrians, tama man sila or mali. Like somebody mentioned earlier, drivers should know better, that's why they have the license to drive. Pedestrians might not know as much as drivers do, but pedestrians who happen to also have a license know better, but it's nearly impossible to discern who is who.

    Although I admit I've had my fair share of experiences (Manggahan area, mall areas where the security guard tells the drivers to go yet peds also cross, etc) it's best to just play it safe.
    Yes. :D Ingat-ingat na lang.

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    defensive driving lang po! http://www.lto.gov.ph/traffic1.html

    PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS...
    Motorists should be aware of pedestrian signal indications. They are used to control pedestrian traffic at intersections where there is conflict between vehicle and pedestrian movement. While these pedestrians are crossing the roadway, they have the right-of-way over all vehicles.
    A pedestrian facing the green walk signal may proceed across the roadway in the direction of the signal. A pedestrian facing a steady flashing "Don't Walk" signal should not start to cross the roadway. If a pedestrian has entered the roadway on the "walk" signal and the "Don't Walk" signal appears, he/she should proceed as quickly as possible to a safe area. While doing this, pedestrians still have the right of way over vehicles. Also a pedestrian should not cross the roadway when vehicular traffic has flashing green signal, unless he/she is facing a "Walk" signal

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    I remember an instructor tell us during one of our Company's sponsored sessions that the motor vehicle always had the "Right of Way" while the pedestrian always had the "Right to Life". And it was always Right to Life over Right of Way.

    The session was a Defensive Driving Class, so it was asserted in said class that had we all been driving defensively, in the strictest sense, then a lot of accidents related to pedestrians would be avoided.

    In my personal view, yes, we have to drive more defensively and carefully, especially in high risk/accident prone areas. I'm not saying that by doing so, no accidents will occur, it will just reduce the likelihood of such accidents happening, and by your own hand, whether or not you really could have avoided it. If a pedestrian, or another motorist, just likes to tempt fate, and gets slapped by fate in return, well, that's another story. At least, on your part, as the driver, you could say that you were being careful.

    As to the rhetorical questions posted in the opening message, I'd say it wasn't the driver's fault. I just hope and pray that I don't encounter these kinds of pedestrians on my street time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamkristopher View Post
    Life > anything material.

    Bakit ba kasi may mga nahalong !^*& sa gene pool. :lol:
    Hmm...

    Jumped into the gene pool when the life guard wasn't looking

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