Public Utility "Driver"

[nicolodeon]

I'm not defending anyone here kaya lang, while I do agree thay majority of PUV drivers are reckless, mayron din naman na mga private vehicle owners at mga drivers ng mga private vehicles na reckless.

IMO, wala sa class yan, sa estado mo sa buhay, kung nakapagtapos ka ng college or hindi, o kaya sa type (PUV vs. PV driver) - nasa disiplina sa katawan, personalidad, respeto sa kapwa motorista, consciousness sa mga pasahero at sa mga sasakyan sa paligid, awareness sa traffic laws at ang medyo naglalaho nga sa maraming mga motorista (PUV drivers man or private)....

...common sense.

[smooth]

IMO lang, ang solusyon: gawing swelduhan ang mga public utility drivers para hindi sila nagmamadaling kumuha ng pasahero.

[tsupermario]

^ imo kung gobyerno yung magpapa-sweldo, sayang ang tax..

[empy]

IMO lang, ang solusyon: gawing swelduhan ang mga public utility drivers para hindi sila nagmamadaling kumuha ng pasahero.

i had the same idea perusing this thread...how about outlawing the boundary system? the operators should pay the drivers a decent wage, require them to make a minimum amount of fares per day (para hindi magsine buong araw, herher), and enforce licensing requirements...would this work?

[architect]

Judging from the posts I guess a good number of us (which might be representative of society at large) are flat out exasperated with the rudeness, lack of discipline, aggressiveness, etc. of drivers today, private or PUV. Given the current political situation, anarchy in the streets appears to be just a tipping point away, if it isn't already happening.

For example: At the Wilson St - Ortigas Ave intersection in San Juan, San Juan-bound jeepneys in the service lane routinely make a U-turn back to the EDSA-bound lane cutting off all other lanes. What is worse, they do this regardless of whether the traffic light is green or red. As soon as they see an opening, they go, cutting off the cars in the other lanes or cars coming from Wilson going into the shopping center. What amazes me is that a lot of drivers (never mind the traffic enforcers) seem to accept this brazen display of extreme whatever you want to call it.

I personally do not want to live in such a place where near-chaos rules. But while I have learned to accept/tolerate "minor" acts of rudeness/lack of discipline in my daily driving, I sense the situation has been steadily worsening.

It is now not uncommon when you have already given way in traffic that the other party, instead of waving their hand in appreciation, gives you the finger instead. Where will this trend lead us?

Given the intelligence and passion displayed in this forum in various threads time and again, perhaps, we can force our collective minds to come up with innovative proposals to bring back discipline to our streets.

[RafRaf]

I'm not defending anyone here kaya lang, while I do agree thay majority of PUV drivers are reckless, mayron din naman na mga private vehicle owners at mga drivers ng mga private vehicles na reckless.

IMO, wala sa class yan, sa estado mo sa buhay, kung nakapagtapos ka ng college or hindi, o kaya sa type (PUV vs. PV driver) - nasa disiplina sa katawan, personalidad, respeto sa kapwa motorista, consciousness sa mga pasahero at sa mga sasakyan sa paligid, awareness sa traffic laws at ang medyo naglalaho nga sa maraming mga motorista (PUV drivers man or private)....

...common sense.

baka OT pero pagpasensiyahan niyo na po.

common sense... yesterday I was in makati ave going to turn left to line up for the entrance to park square 2. hindi pa umuusad ang mga naunang nag-left turn sa akin at nakaharang sila sa intersection. So hindi muna ako sumusugod kasi if I do I will be blocking 3 of 4 flows. 3 times na nag change yung lights pero hindi pa rin umusad yung pag-lilikuan ko. I felt I had to keep the intersection open for the other flows to keep moving. At meron naman marking sa daan na keep intersection open (yellow box with X). Binubusinahan na ako sa likod at yung iba ay inovertakan na ako at pinilit yung sasakyan nila sa intersection (kahit magkabara-bara na). Mga private vehicles na itong mga ito ha - cars, private AUV and CUVs.

ako ba ang walang common sense since mukhang yung mga nag-overtake all had the "common" idea/urge to force their way? Ako ba ang walang disciplina? It sure felt that way.

[trackers888]

baka OT pero pagpasensiyahan niyo na po.

common sense... yesterday I was in makati ave going to turn left to line up for the entrance to park square 2. hindi pa umuusad ang mga naunang nag-left turn sa akin at nakaharang sila sa intersection. So hindi muna ako sumusugod kasi if I do I will be blocking 3 of 4 flows. 3 times na nag change yung lights pero hindi pa rin umusad yung pag-lilikuan ko. I felt I had to keep the intersection open for the other flows to keep moving. At meron naman marking sa daan na keep intersection open (yellow box with X). Binubusinahan na ako sa likod at yung iba ay inovertakan na ako at pinilit yung sasakyan nila sa intersection (kahit magkabara-bara na). Mga private vehicles na itong mga ito ha - cars, private AUV and CUVs.

ako ba ang walang common sense since mukhang yung mga nag-overtake all had the "common" idea/urge to force their way? Ako ba ang walang disciplina? It sure felt that way.

See Boss RafRaf! nasa lugar ka na ng mga college graduate nyan! Hindi lang naman yan nangyayari sa lugar natin, kahit dito sa lugar ko ngayon, dami bwisit na di alalm kung saang planeta galing kung mag drive!

[Hanren]

....... Binubusinahan na ako sa likod at yung iba ay inovertakan na ako at pinilit yung sasakyan nila sa intersection (kahit magkabara-bara na). Mga private vehicles na itong mga ito ha - cars, private AUV and CUVs.

ako ba ang walang common sense since mukhang yung mga nag-overtake all had the "common" idea/urge to force their way? Ako ba ang walang disciplina? It sure felt that way.

Same thing happend to me last week. May pabilog na parking dito sa SM Baguio (alam niyo siguro ito pag andito kayo sa baguio) at since pabilog nga ang parking..mahirap pumuwesto. May isang nagmamadaling magparada at laging bumubusina na mit adventure. Cool lang muna ako. Nung naipwesto ko na oto ko lalong nagbusina at sinabihan ako na idikit ko pa sasakyan ko dun sa likod ng isa pang oto. Sabi ko naman 'di na po pwede di na ako makakalabas niyan sir' (halos 1 foot na nga lang distance namin dun sa isa)..lalo lang akong sinigawan at sinabing "umalis ka na lang diyan at ako ang paparada ng makita mo. Kasya pa isang sasakyan jan." Nagpintig ang tenga ko at pati bayaw ko bumaba na ng sasakyan. Nung nakita atang may kasama ako lumipat na siya sa ibang mapaparadahan na maluwag. Sa kamamadali niya, tinamaan niya sa harap yung honda city habang paatras siya. Deadma lang at alis na agad matapos sila mag usap ng guard. Kinausap ako nung guard pagkatapos at sinabing hindi talaga pwedeng mangyatri ang gusto nung mama. Considerasyon lang sana. Kahit ba manager siya ng SM o ano pa siya doon, hindi lahat ng lugar sa kanya. Medyo matanda na nga eh. Dapat alam niya basic courtesy. Sabi ko nga rin sa sarili ko ganitong pag uugali ang nag tri trigger ng 'road rage'. Marami pa man din akong nababalitaan na nagkakamatayan dahil lang sa parking...

[IMm29]

I'm not defending anyone here kaya lang, while I do agree thay majority of PUV drivers are reckless, mayron din naman na mga private vehicle owners at mga drivers ng mga private vehicles na reckless.

IMO, wala sa class yan, sa estado mo sa buhay, kung nakapagtapos ka ng college or hindi, o kaya sa type (PUV vs. PV driver) - nasa disiplina sa katawan, personalidad, respeto sa kapwa motorista, consciousness sa mga pasahero at sa mga sasakyan sa paligid, awareness sa traffic laws at ang medyo naglalaho nga sa maraming mga motorista (PUV drivers man or private)....

...common sense.

+1.

Wala talaga sa class or estado mo sa buhay, it's really a matter of self-discipline, which is, unfortunately, what many PUV drivers lack. And since, at their level, it's the boundary system that determines what they make and take home, it's survival of the fittest, no matter what.

This problem is just too deep, so getting to the root cause is much easier said than done. But then, if nothing can be done to reduce the problem, it will just keep on growing exponentially instead of incrementally.

I think enforcement is how to start. Gordon and what he did in SBMA was cited. It's a wonder how fellow Filipinos including yours truly, can abide by simple road rules while in SBMA and in Olongapo. I'm not saying Olongapo is free from such traffic problems, all I'm saying is there doesn't seem to be anarchy on the streets due to the proper implementation of the road rules. This is indeed a Herculean task, if it is to be on metrowide scale, but then don't leave it all to the MMDA. Make it the responsibility of the local officials to do it. Cite these local authorities if they can successfully implement it, and reprimand them if they can't. It's a matter of political will, which they can wield, if only they wanted to bad enough.

[mbeige]

The problem of the country is that it is product based and not labor based. Kung saan pa mahirap mabuhay, duon pa mababa yung kita mo for a large amount of labor work such as driving and manning a PUV.

Here in the US labor is very well paid, kaya mahirap ka makahanap dito ng mga taong hirap kumita unless TNT na under the table lang.

For example, if you do a certain amount of work, the customer only pays for your final product, not your effort. Anong kinita mo? Wala. Anong kinita ng kompanya? Yung cost ng product at your expense.

That flaw in the system is what drives people mad to get what they can dahil di sila nababayaran ng tama. They have to act that way dahil wala silang choice.