Hyundai Greenhilss making COLD CALLS!

[tidus1203]

I was driving to work yesterday, when suddenly my phone rang. The phone number is not in my directory so syempre medyo apprehensive ako kunin yung call kasi if its not in my directory malamang its not really important and I can just ignore it.

Pero what the heck! So I parked at the sides with blinkers on (I didn't use my Fiesta since it was coding, could have been much easier) and took the call.

Yun pala its just a Hyundai Greenhills agent (female) asking me if I wanted to buy a car? Nainis ako and said with a string HINDI! Hindi ko kailangan ng kotse. I hanged up immediately afterwards.

Bwisit itong mga to. First of all how the hell did they get my number, I bought my Hyundai at Quezon Ave and not at Greenhills. And its annoying that they do make cold calls now. Spam texts are tolerable but cold calls is simply annoying!

Tip ko sa agent na yan, don't do it you will just annoy people and tendency is hindi pa sila bibili sayo!

[CLAVEL3699]

I was driving to work yesterday, when suddenly my phone rang. The phone number is not in my directory so syempre medyo apprehensive ako kunin yung call kasi if its not in my directory malamang its not really important and I can just ignore it.

Pero what the heck! So I parked at the sides with blinkers on (I didn't use my Fiesta since it was coding, could have been much easier) and took the call.

Yun pala its just a Hyundai Greenhills agent (female) asking me if I wanted to buy a car? Nainis ako and said with a string HINDI! Hindi ko kailangan ng kotse. I hanged up immediately afterwards.

Bwisit itong mga to. First of all how the hell did they get my number, I bought my Hyundai at Quezon Ave and not at Greenhills. And its annoying that they do make cold calls now. Spam texts are tolerable but cold calls is simply annoying!

Tip ko sa agent na yan, don't do it you will just annoy people and tendency is hindi pa sila bibili sayo!

I dont see anything wrong about this... Just doin her job and trying to earn a living... No harm done

[ANC]

i agree with clavel3699.. perhaps tidus1203 was just caught off guard, baka natiyempuhan mainit ang ulo..
it's hard to be in sales.. so i guess as long as the caller was polite, we should respond politely as well
cool lang tayo mga kapatid, you'll feel better after drive safely

I dont see anything wrong about this... Just doin her job and trying to earn a living... No harm done

[architect]

I believe the issue is more about privacy and/or intrusion. Mobile phone numbers, by nature, are not published, unlike landline numbers, which are listed in the directory. Hence, generally, we don't expect to receive calls or text from strangers. Yet, like tidus, I have received sales calls on my mobile phones from total strangers who even know my name. So obviously they must have gotten the information from either my mobile telco or other companies with whom I have had transactions and so doing, provided my contact info. That these companies are giving out my contact info, either for profit or otherwise, without my permission, is obviously something I don't appreciate. That insensitive salespeople call me during important meetings, lunch/dinner time, or during late night/early morning hours is something I actually detest. So, I generally do not entertain such calls. In fact, if they manage to get through, I usually just put them on hold...and never get back to them.

The proper way, given the technology today, would be to send an introductory, relatively non-instrusive text message asking if I would be interested in their products/services and if so, when would it be a convenient time to discuss it. In fact, by being courteous and considerate, salespeople increase their chances of getting through to their prospects. I, for one, would reply positively if I am interested. OTH, with cold sales calls, I get so turned off, it ruins any chances of my buying even if I am very interested.

[niky]

I actually appreciate it if they text first. If they call, I tell them to send the marketing spiel to my e-mail and I'll get back to them.

I guess the hard sell is because of the Filipino mentality. Most of us are polite. Too polite. Which means when we're asked if we can spare a moment of time, the natural answer is "Yes!"

But the times they are a-changing. Bore too many people with the same old "pamasahe lang po... pangpagkain lang po... sige po... last na ito..." (with puppy dog eyes as you lean on the window) or "Sir, would you like to avail of our promo" (with the harang-harang motion as you walk down the mall) and people become desensitized, even immune to those ploys.

Do it for a while and you'll get a few suckers. Do it for long enough and people will tune you out, just as easily as they tune out ads posted on walls and posts.

[niky]

I actually appreciate it if they text first. If they call, I tell them to send the marketing spiel to my e-mail and I'll get back to them.

I guess the hard sell is because of the Filipino mentality. Most of us are polite. Too polite. Which means when we're asked if we can spare a moment of time, the natural answer is "Yes!"

But the times they are a-changing. Bore too many people with the same old "pamasahe lang po... pangpagkain lang po... sige po... last na ito..." (with puppy dog eyes as you lean on the window) or "Sir, would you like to avail of our promo" (with the harang-harang motion as you walk down the mall) and people become desensitized, even immune to those ploys.

Do it for a while and you'll get a few suckers. Do it for long enough and people will tune you out, just as easily as they tune out ads posted on walls and posts.

[CLAVEL3699]

madali naman sabihin na sorry not interested... tapos ang boxing...

kung wala sa phone directory ko talagang hindi ko sinasagot pero pagnasagot ko... just tell him/her politely na sorry not interested...

If paggabi naman or nasa meeting ako usually nakasilent mode ako... alam sa offfice and my staff paggabi walang tawag txt lang.

cellnumbers ngayon ay hindi na private line... kasama na sya pang araw araw. pagmay naghingi ba nang number mo landline mo sasabihin mo hindi dba cell number kasi eto ang pinakaconvenient sa lahat.

I dont think na intrude ang buhay mo coz madali sabihin na sorry not interested and no harm done. It will take 2seconds of your time.

[ess]

madali naman sabihin na sorry not interested... tapos ang boxing...

Yeah.
To some extent, I actually enjoy shutting down these cold callers.

Marketing Rep: Sir, I would like to tell you about our new Shangri-La membership card.
Me: <interrupts> Sorry, not interested.
Marketing Rep: ..ah...may I know why, sir? I haven't even told you about the benefits.
Me: Goodbye. <hangs up>

[uls]

haynako dami tumatawag dito araw araw

credit card, hotel membership, ink and toner

usual answer ko "sorry, try niyo nalang sa iba"

[CLAVEL3699]

Yeah.
To some extent, I actually enjoy shutting down these cold callers.

Marketing Rep: Sir, I would like to tell you about our new Shangri-La membership card.
Me: <interrupts> Sorry, not interested.
Marketing Rep: ..ah...may I know why, sir? I haven't even told you about the benefits.
Me: Goodbye. <hangs up>

yah. tama coz u told him/her politely wag na hihirit pa... tapos na boxing no harm no foul...

[cabbyrider]

napaka babaw lang nito nasa goons squad na... sana kinuha mo name nung agent then puntahan mo sa hyundai greenhills then pag sisigawan mo and ask mo narin kung pano nila nakuha contact number. tell them also kung gano ka importante yung oras mo na sinayang nila sa pagtawag niya.

[yebo]

information is a commodity. it is traded and sold, it has a monetary value. for example, if the marketing division of a company wants to buy 1,000 names of filipinos 30-45 years old, living in MM, single, owns a car, living in a condo, etc etc and who just went on an overseas vacation in the last 180 days all they need is to send an email to the keepers of that information (like credit card companies, airlines, travel agencies) and they will get it within the day, for a fee of course.

so if you have at one time in your life filled up a form stating your personal information, especially if that form was submitted to a bank, credit facility (e.g., credit card company) or any other kind of financial institution, or a marketing agent/firm, or insurance, then that information is already in a pool that is for sale to whomsoever needs or wants it. so if you get a letter from a credit card company, get a call from a phone marketing firm, or get offers of "free" vacations do not be surprised anymore where they got your name, address, telephone numbers, etc. those information came from you! they know everything you had written down, they may even be looking at your picture at that moment. so next time you fill up an application form for a loan make sure you read the fine print, there is a privacy clause like "the company reserves the right to use the information entered herein blah blah blah...". the saving grace is that some of those forms will have a non-waiver, like ticking a box if you do want the information to remain confidential. but since most of us are just too eager to get the loan we often become too polite to deny them our privacy.

[chua_riwap]

******** double post! **********

[kotiko]

Nako ang yayaman niyo kasi kaya favorite kayo ng mga sales agents tawagan! :p

[chua_riwap]

napaka babaw lang nito nasa goons squad na... sana kinuha mo name nung agent then puntahan mo sa hyundai greenhills then pag sisigawan mo and ask mo narin kung pano nila nakuha contact number. tell them also kung gano ka importante yung oras mo na sinayang nila sa pagtawag niya.

nasapol mo!

or just ignore the call.....di pa sumama araw mo.
& i would bet..... it would be not the last. marami pa tatawag kay ts na ganyan.

[CLAVEL3699]

Nako ang yayaman niyo kasi kaya favorite kayo ng mga sales agents tawagan! :p

sorry double post

[CLAVEL3699]

Nako ang yayaman niyo kasi kaya favorite kayo ng mga sales agents tawagan! :p

baka ang yayabang kamo!

[architect]

madali naman sabihin na sorry not interested... tapos ang boxing...

kung wala sa phone directory ko talagang hindi ko sinasagot pero pagnasagot ko... just tell him/her politely na sorry not interested...

If paggabi naman or nasa meeting ako usually nakasilent mode ako... alam sa offfice and my staff paggabi walang tawag txt lang.

cellnumbers ngayon ay hindi na private line... kasama na sya pang araw araw. pagmay naghingi ba nang number mo landline mo sasabihin mo hindi dba cell number kasi eto ang pinakaconvenient sa lahat.

I dont think na intrude ang buhay mo coz madali sabihin na sorry not interested and no harm done. It will take 2seconds of your time.

It is not just 2 seconds of your life if you are awakened by a 9 pm cold sales call then have a difficult time sleeping again.

It is not just 2 seconds of your life if you have to get up from your dinner table to retrieve your mobile phone in your office/den because your maid happened to hear the phone ring and told you about it.

It is not just 2 seconds of your life if you happen to be driving and have to retrieve your mobile phone from your briefcase and in so doing almost run over a pedestrian because you have to look at your briefcase.

You cannot assume someone's phone is in silent or or off mode or that said person is not waiting for a very important call only to be bothered by an intrusive and unwanted sales call.

Different people have different lives. You cannot assume just because you have the luxury of time, others will have also.

[architect]

information is a commodity. it is traded and sold, it has a monetary value. for example, if the marketing division of a company wants to buy 1,000 names of filipinos 30-45 years old, living in MM, single, owns a car, living in a condo, etc etc and who just went on an overseas vacation in the last 180 days all they need is to send an email to the keepers of that information (like credit card companies, airlines, travel agencies) and they will get it within the day, for a fee of course.

so if you have at one time in your life filled up a form stating your personal information, especially if that form was submitted to a bank, credit facility (e.g., credit card company) or any other kind of financial institution, or a marketing agent/firm, or insurance, then that information is already in a pool that is for sale to whomsoever needs or wants it. so if you get a letter from a credit card company, get a call from a phone marketing firm, or get offers of "free" vacations do not be surprised anymore where they got your name, address, telephone numbers, etc. those information came from you! they know everything you had written down, they may even be looking at your picture at that moment. so next time you fill up an application form for a loan make sure you read the fine print, there is a privacy clause like "the company reserves the right to use the information entered herein blah blah blah...". the saving grace is that some of those forms will have a non-waiver, like ticking a box if you do want the information to remain confidential. but since most of us are just too eager to get the loan we often become too polite to deny them our privacy.

Plus 1 here.

Lessons learned -

1. For credit card companies offering me credit cards, I tell them I only provide my name and billing address, and phone number. It is a take it or leave it proposition.

2. For the companies that agree, I provide a prepaid mobile number. You will be surprised at the number of missed calls I get on a weekly basis. (I check the number on a weekly basis only).

I also use a prepaid number for non-essential transactions, too. Since using this approach, I have really cut down the number of unsolicited sales calls to my main number.

[_Cathy_]

I also use a prepaid number for non-essential transactions, too. Since using this approach, I have really cut down the number of unsolicited sales calls to my main number.

I also maintain a prepaid number for that purpose. Somehow I still get spam messages on my postpaid (those offering loans tick me off the most!!!)

I normally ward off sales people by telling them I don't have a job. They end the conversation right away