MAPSA Incident - Colored Plate Cover Fine = Php2500.00

[Bogeyman]

Mas green pa yung plate numbers ko kesa sa mismong plate covers

By his own admission, tinted ang plate cover niya.

brother hindi naman tinted yung plate cover ko

Pero baka naman ang definition niya ng 'tinted' eh yung mirrorized na.

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Anyway, I used to have clear plate covers on my ride, pero matagal ko na ngang inalis just to be sure.

Ang hirap lang kasi, pag wala nang cover yung plates mo, exposed na sa elements. Eventually, kukupas. Pag nangyari yun, magiging liable ka naman for having uncared for plates.

Yung sasakyan ng biyenan ko has clear plate covers. I remember one time, ginamit namin yun sa Makati since coding yung sasakyan ko. Hindi naman ako hinuli, probably since hanggang Intercon lang naman ako from EDSA. Now that we're planning to use it again this month for another trip to Makati, sana lang safe pa rin siya.

[jim]

Guys iba ang colored sa tinted kaya ng nila inamend yung ordinance nila

Kung sa LTO nga nakapagparehistro ako the week before the incident kasi di ka makakapagparehistro pag may bawal na nakakabit sa kotse mo ipapatanggal nila. They really checked everything pati plate covers ko.

BTW in response to me spending on my lawyer, I won't even spend a cent

Thanks for the comments guys!

[herbularyo]

brother hindi naman tinted yung plate cover ko at isa pa kakarehistro ng sasakyan ko (september lang b4 the incident) at na-check ng LTO yung plate covers ni hindi nila pinatanggal. Isa pa how the hell am I going to Mandaluyong if I don't pass by Makati from Pasay?!?!?!

Manghuli sila yung mga taga-makati or nagtatrabaho sa Makati. Malay ba ng passers-by na bawal pala kahit colored plate covers ni hindi nila ipina-publicize ordinances nila. They should first give warning to passersby muna.

Php2500.00 as a fine is way way too much!!!

Sir, I hate to tell you this, illegal talaga ang colored plate protector at nalathala na yan sa newspaper noon pa. As a matter of fact, my thread na dito a few months back on that topic. You cannot claim innocence by saying na di mo alam. Regarding sa LTO, baka di rin nila alam yang ordinance. Peace.

BTW, im also using plate protector pero clear lang hehe

[mbeige]

It is understandable that when passing by a city like you mentioned, their laws should be publicized and I think it was done properly. Problem is your LTO probably did not know you were going to Makati. Maybe he said it was OK for your area but not Makati. Matagal ko na nabasa ito sa threads like others have said. I think you just have to pay the fine and get on with it. It's not a perfect world, that's the problem with cities having different laws but that's another matter.

Similarly a friend of mine told a story that a friend of his from Vegas passed by California to visit some friends. He was pulled over for having front window tints, which are not allowed here in California (hence the front side windows are clear, but the others behind can be tinted). Limo tint is OK in Vegas, marami naman kasing reasons to do so there. It sucks, but that's how it really is, even if he was just a visitor passing by.

Needless to say goodluck on your complaint.

[Bogeyman]

Kunin mo lahat ng mga bawal sa LTO at MMDA, then exaggerate those by at least a factor of 5.

The result will be the Makati City Traffic Code. :D

[boyT]

I think using clear plate protection should be ok. Yung colored/tinted covers ay mahirap talagang mabasa yung plates. It's clear naman in their ordinance na illegal talaga ang colored/tinted plate cover. The reason by some to use plate cover is to prevent their plates from getting dilapidated. I saw some plates na X series na nabubura. Hindi na talaga mabasa

[swordsman]

Guys iba ang colored sa tinted kaya ng nila inamend yung ordinance nila

colored or tinted plate cover = BAWAL.
ganun lang po ka-simple.

Kung sa LTO nga nakapagparehistro ako the week before the incident kasi di ka makakapagparehistro pag may bawal na nakakabit sa kotse mo ipapatanggal nila. They really checked everything pati plate covers ko.

Kung yan depensa mo sir, sabihin lang sayo.."Pakialam namin...magreklamo ka sa LTO". I really wouldn't bet on the words of LTO personnel in charge of registration. You can even register a car without taking it to the LTO. A blind had been given a license.

BTW in response to me spending on my lawyer, I won't even spend a cent

buti naman po, waste of time and energy na lang. hindi na money



mas mabuti pa, charge to experience na lang po.

[froshie1]

No offense bro, pero that policy was announced all over the media. Na-TV pa nga yan, and every forumer knows about it. Kahit saang automotive forum, may thread na ganyan, sometimes sticky pa nga eh.

Sa umaga, kita pa yan, pero paano sa gabi? I regularly go home after 8pm at madami akong nakikitang may ganyang tint. Ang hirap basahin. Paano kung naka-aksidente? Hindi makukuha yung plaka kasi may tint. Ang mahirap dyan, kung kakilala or kamag-anak mo ang na-aksidente. Maganda naman ang intensyon ng batas, so let's follow it na lang.

IMO, just learn from the experience. No use contesting the ordinance, I'm sure others before you have contested it, and looking at your posted pic, may greenish tint nga.

Tama si Galactus. Pards sa umaga kita pa yan, pero pag sa gabi men pag malayo ka at itetail kita ng ilang meters hindi ko makikita yan maski may ilaw pa ako. Iyong plate cover kasi din nakakapag bawas ng clarity sa plates pag gabi at tinapatan mo ng ilaw (pansin mo ilawan mo iyong plates na walang cover pag gabi mas malinaw sila kaysa sa doon sa meron)

[H1Tman]

afaik, ALL plate covers (colored/tinted or not) BAWAL. May order na yata PNP regarding this. BAWAL po talaga. Wag nyo nang subukan.

[Paolo123]

Hindi yata bawal ang clear plate cover. I go to makati everyday for work with it and never ako sinita.

[A121]

afaik, ALL plate covers (colored/tinted or not) BAWAL. May order na yata PNP regarding this. BAWAL po talaga. Wag nyo nang subukan.

conflicting talaga ung mga batas? ayon kasi sa threadstarter, pwede daw sabi ng PNP-TMG bawal.

[swordsman]

afaik, ALL plate covers (colored/tinted or not) BAWAL. May order na yata PNP regarding this. BAWAL po talaga. Wag nyo nang subukan.

Not according to "MAKATI TRAFFIC ORDINANCE Article 18 section 137". It did not mention clear plate cover. And as far as that PNP order, if i remember correctly, the then PNP chief's statement was something like "...that any plate cover that hinders readability... is illegal". Or something to that effect; and unfortunately is subject to various interpretation. My personal interpretation is that the clear cover does not hinder readability, hence not illegal.

I have been using clear plate cover for 5 years now or so. Araw-araw ko sinusubukan for the last 5 years, almost everyday dumadaan ako sa makati proper. Walang huli eversince, kahit naka-stop ako in front of a group of MAPSA enforcers.

But if you want to play safe talaga, wag na lang kayo maglagay ng plate cover. Much like wearing a condom while having *** with your GF-who's-taking-pills the day after her menstruation.

[Yoda]

wag lang sana ako huhulihin kung madumi ang plates ko, OA na yun!

If it's dirty to the point that readability is impaired, then it's also a violation.

[danesjr]

actually nung naghigpit ang TMG dati sa mga plate cover, LTO reminded them that there is also an LTO memo that motorist are responsible for caring for their plate numbers and hence the protector that doesn't hinder visbility of the plate should be deemed legal.

[drag_addict]

nagugulan talga ako sa batas dito. dapat bawal na lang sa buong pilipinas ung super dark plate cover haha...

palagi ako nasa makati, kahit anong papansin ko sa mapsa di ako sinisita.

[shadow]

:puyat:^^^ako naguguluhan saiyo eh, bawal nga ang super dark plate cover kahit saan...

[eojlin]

Ok lang naman dati yang mga colored/tinted plate protectors or covers. Meron lang talaga mga sobrang makakapal ang muka na hindi na talaga mabasa ang plate sa sobrang dark ng shade/tint ng cover ('kala mo may krimen na bina-balak kaya ayaw pabasa mga plates).
Mahirap din naman para sa enforcers na mag-identify ng kung ano'ng shade or darkness ang pwede at hindi pwede sa kalsada - kaya tanggal na lang tayo ng mga covers natin.

[jim]

Mga brod salamat talaga sa mga comments. They really help a lot. I remember well yung sinasabi nyo na natelevise sa TV at radio na bawal yung tinted plate covers pero as for colored plate covers that does not hinder the view of your plates di ko matandaan (baka nabingi ako at that time )

Ang sa akin lang naman, cge if I violated their ordinance, is 2500 worth the fine??? Kung 250 lang cguro binayaran ko na, pero 2500?!?!?! IMHO if we let these suckers for money feel na babayaran natin sila with that kind of money for simple violations such as using plate covers then what kind of violation will they think of next?!?!?! Baka naman ipagbawal na nila ang paggamit ng sun glasses sa loob ng kotse kasi it hinders the drivers face view (j/k) hehehe.

Do you think that putting accessories in your vehicle such as plate covers constitute a traffic ordinance violation?!?!? Think twice or thrice bros. Traffic ordinance violations are beating the red light, illegal counterflowing, turning on no-u turn, etc. and those should have heavy fines and penalties. Eh dun sa list ng MAPSA yung right turn on red signal Php 550 lang!!!

They should create an Illegal use of vehicle accessories ordinance (SH?T pag nagkaroon nito di ko kasalanan ha)

For me LTO's Php 150 is fair enough a fine plus consfiscation of the plate covers or destruction na lang. Sa totoo lang kahit di na nila isoli yung covers ko ok lang (they're worth 300 petot anyway). I'll just find other means to protect my plates maybe spray them with clear coat

Iyan ang ipaglalaban namin sa hearing. Manalo man o matalo at least maipapaabot ko yung mensahe ko sa kanila ng maayos at hindi yung makikipagtalo ako sa isang MAPSA officer sa daan o di kaya eh susuhulan ko sya. Nasasanay na ang mga bwayang yan and partly who are to blame???

[woulfe27]

Siguro ang tamang solusyon dyan e taasan din yung fines sa ibang traffic violations. Kse kung mababa lang yung fines, mas malakas loob ng motorists to disobey traffic rules, right?

[froshie1]

Kaya mataas yan pre kasi pinapahirapan mong maidentify iyong vehicle mo ng mga law enforcers (hehehe law enforcers ba? hahaha). Para yang driving the car without plates but with a lower level of punishment kasi may plates pero naka tint naman.

Is 2500 ok? IMO yes. Para sa kaligtasan ito ng lahat ng tao.

OT: Dapat dito matataas talaga ang bayad. Iyong tipong aaray ang isang tao bago magdisobey ng traffic rules.