Irritating pinoy drivers' Ugali

[Radical!]

sorry guys, but i believe Otep and Mazdamazda are correct. it's a global rule of road courtesy to only use the leftmost lane of a highway as a passing lane, and to give way to faster vehicles, even if you're already driving the speed limit. i actually checked my Florida driver's handbook and sure enough, the rule is there.

Agree. No question about this rule the leftmost lane is for passing only.

it may only take a few seconds to pass on the right, but believe it or not, that's one of the more dangerous maneuvers to do on the highway. actually, impeding faster traffic is dangerous PERIOD. ever see a bunch of slow cars taking up all the lanes of a highway....guess what the faster drivers behind them start to do? they get impatient and start making all kinds of maneuvers to get by..

Agree again, but I will not waste my time flashing the guy 'camping on the left lane' in front of me if the right is free for me to pass. I don't like irritating others just because I'm right. It's not me. I just try go my humble way and try (and pray) that I don't offend anyone.

[Bogeyman]

...I will not waste my time flashing the guy 'camping on the left lane' in front of me if the right is free for me to pass...I just try go my humble way and try (and pray) that I don't offend anyone.

Well, I hope the next cop who flags you down for passing on the right side, cuts you some slack for being such a nice guy. Really. :D

Last time I checked, it's still patently illegal. My co-worker's dad was recently apprehended for pulling that stunt on the SLEX, and he had to claim his license at the LTO main office in QC. Considering that he's living in Paranaque, that was such a hassle.

[Radical!]

Well, I hope the next cop who flags you down for passing on the right side, cuts you some slack for being such a nice guy. Really. :D

You mean the nice cop who just passed me this morning on SLEX riding his sub 400 cc bike in that tiny lane on the right?

Yeah, really!

[cutedoc]

ang sama ko pala, hehehe swapang ako sa daan minsan, i pass at the right side lane(bangketa)and flash a beam and hink as well, though i do it on a less aggressive way, though minsan pag naiirita ako, i aggressively honk pedestrian lalo na kung ala sila sa tamang tawiran, and when i beam, that woulod just mean mauna ako, selfish sobra sa daan...

[badsekktor]

about dun sa pag-flash sa expressway thing... ang kinaiinis ko eh yun mga nag-flaflash ng ilaw nila sa likod mo kahit wala ka naman sa passing lane. tapos yun nag-change lane ng 3 lanes ng hindi man lang gumagamit ng signal light. muntik nako minsan nyan. strada yun ride. kundi ko naanticipate eh malamang gulong pareho sasakyan namin sa express. nakakainis din yun mga driver na akala mo nakikipag-karera sa express at grabe pa kung sumingit! akala mo ahas!

[konde]

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Originally Posted by Bogeyman
Well, I hope the next cop who flags you down for passing on the right side, cuts you some slack for being such a nice guy. Really

You mean the nice cop who just passed me this morning on SLEX riding his sub 400 cc bike in that tiny lane on the right?

Yeah, really!

balik na naman tayo sa simula! hehehe. just because everyone is doing it, kahit mali - tama na rin! now that is irritating!

[OTEP]

It is always corteous to YIELD TO THE FASTER VEHICLE. Never mind if he is doing 110kph or 320kph, if you are (or me, in most cases) the slower vehicle, YIELD. Or at least show that you intend to yield at the next possible opportunity. As M54 has stated, impeding traffic is dangerous and is one of the leading causes of expressway pile ups (as it creates an 'artificial' traffic jam). Speeding vehicles, on the other hand, are usually just involved in one-car (themselves) crashes. And we couldn't care less if they rolled their flashy red sportcars into a ball of junk 2kms away.

I don't waste my time flashing other vehicles. I just spend a moment of my time to let them know that they are total menaces on the road.

I remember one of our drivers, a total left lane bandit. Galit na galit dun sa nagfa-flash sa likod niya. Ako pa tuloy ang nahiya. I already saw the vehicle do a corteous flash more than 5 carlengths away from where we were. Pero engot lang siguro talaga yung kasama ko. Ako pa nagsabi na itabi na niya.

Passing on the right (as already posted) is not only ILLEGAL, it is also DANGEROUS. Just because everyone's doing it, ok na siya. Ang problema tuloy, the drivers who do the right thing ang lumalabas pang kontrabida sa daan vs. the uneducated MASA.

That's why I take the time to report these violators (LEFT LANE BANDITS) when I chance upon NLEX HP units.

[empy]

Agree again, but I will not waste my time flashing the guy 'camping on the left lane' in front of me if the right is free for me to pass. I don't like irritating others just because I'm right. It's not me. I just try go my humble way and try (and pray) that I don't offend anyone.

fair enough, and i don't that's a bad thing.

but something has to be done to educate people (btw, not just pinoys...i think americans are even worse) who exhibit this kind of behavior because it's both inconvenient and dangerous to all motorists in general. maybe in the philippines, flashing is considered an a--hole move, but in some other countries it's done to signal someone that they are not doing the right thing (of course, i'm sure some people think i'm an a--hole when i do it, but what else is new :bwahaha: )

[gigolo_smurf]

one of the irritating pinoy drivers' ugali is yung mag-counterflow sa traffic! lalo na sa kamias! tapos pag dating sa dulo ng intersection, ikaw pa ang gigitgitin! most of them, PUJ's! di ko alam kung mga bulag at bingi yung mga drivers na yun or they are born stupid!

[oldblue]

one of the irritating pinoy drivers' ugali is yung mag-counterflow sa traffic! lalo na sa kamias! tapos pag dating sa dulo ng intersection, ikaw pa ang gigitgitin! most of them, PUJ's! di ko alam kung mga bulag at bingi yung mga drivers na yun or they are born stupid!

they're not stupid. gusto lang talaga nila makaisa.

[Radical!]

fair enough, and i don't that's a bad thing.

but something has to be done to educate people (btw, not just pinoys...i think americans are even worse) who exhibit this kind of behavior because it's both inconvenient and dangerous to all motorists in general. maybe in the philippines, flashing is considered an a--hole move, but in some other countries it's done to signal someone that they are not doing the right thing (of course, i'm sure some people think i'm an a--hole when i do it, but what else is new :bwahaha: )

I know what you mean...in NYC, not just the flashing lights, drivers include the famous middle finger as they pass you. :bwahaha:

[fireblade]

I am beginning to like this thread, coffee anyone?

Yes, I am guilty of flashing my lights especially if I see a stupid moron running at 60kph on the passing lane. Reasons, 1. driver is too old to know what is happening around him 2. si dalagita first time nag-drive maingat pa 3. mommy is too scared to stay on the middle lane as there are too many cars left and right 4. owner type jeep full of baneras that he cant see a thing at the back 5. so on and so forth.

But it doesn't bother me that much now as this happens rarely with our road situation. What bothers me now is the road condition after the rain And also that picture on another thread of a guy holding a gun complete with his shooters club shirt

[Radical!]

Passing on the right (as already posted) is not only ILLEGAL, it is also DANGEROUS.

Is passing on the right ILLEGAL? I don't recall any law that says so. I know there are exceptions, but to my mind, passing on the right is not illegal.

[phat_azz]

it may not be illegal, but it is definitely DANGEROUS. lalo na yung mga gusto pumunta sa shoulder; madaming stories dyan na pagpunta sa shoulder, may stalled vehicle at di makakayanan ng brakes ng overtaking vehicle yung short stopping distance. guess what happens.

[CVT]

it's a global rule of road courtesy to only use the leftmost lane of a highway as a passing lane, and to give way to faster vehicles, [SIZE="4"][SIZE="5"]even if you're already driving the speed limit. ....[/SIZE][/SIZE]

actually, impeding faster traffic is dangerous PERIOD. ...

Agree!

[Bogeyman]

Is passing on the right ILLEGAL? I don't recall any law that says so. I know there are exceptions, but to my mind, passing on the right is not illegal.

Allow me to educate you.

This paragraph was taken from wikipedia.org:

Overtaking or passing is the act of driving around another slower automobile on a road. The lane used for passing or overtaking another vehicle is almost always the inside lane, toward the center of the road and away from the road shoulder — that is, to the left in places that drive on the right, and right in places that drive on the left.

The highlighted parts apply particularly to the Philippines. Thus, that is the legal way of overtaking. Any other means is considered illegal; just because the law doesn't say so, doesn't mean it's allowable. Common sense.

Given that, the LTO gives the following penalty:

Violation 68C: Illegal overtaking. P150 penalty.

Violation 68H: Overtaking when left side is not visible or clear of incoming traffic. P150 penalty.

If passing on the right side of the road is as harmless as you say, why does the LTO place such a special emphasis on using the left side?

[Radical!]

Allow me to educate you.

This paragraph was taken from wikipedia.org:



The highlighted parts apply particularly to the Philippines. Thus, that is the legal way of overtaking. Any other means is considered illegal; just because the law doesn't say so, doesn't mean it's allowable. Common sense.

Given that, the LTO gives the following penalty:




If passing on the right side of the road is as harmless as you say, why does the LTO place such a special emphasis on using the left side?

I don't know if the wikipedia definition is showing the whole picture. Perhaps on a two-lane highway (two lanes both ways) you're conviction that overtaking on the right is dangerous is correct. But what if the highway is that of a 4-5 lane such as in early parts of NLEX northboud and early parts of SLEX (3-lane) south bound? That's why I said there are exceptions to the 'No overtaking on the right' rule. How about in instances in a 2-lane main avenue where there's a car signalling to the left to enter an establishment? Will you flash incessantly behind him until he yields and lets you go? Or are you going to overtake on the 'dangerous' right? Sorry, I'm not about to let somebody, who doesn't get the facts correctly to educate me. Now, were you educated with what I just wrote?

[sly_vixen]

Mas nakakainis yung pag naka stop ka waiting for red left signal light to turn green nasa likod mo flash ng flash ng headlights nya, sort of FORCING you to turn left! Porke walang dumadaan na sasakyan pipilitin ka mag violate ng rule!

[Bogeyman]

But what if the highway is that of a 4-5 lane such as in early parts of NLEX northboud and early parts of SLEX (3-lane) south bound?

Same thing. As long as there's pavement, whether it's a city street or an expressway, the same traffic rules apply. The leftmost lane, being closest to the middle of the road, should be the passing lane.

I said there are exceptions to the 'No overtaking on the right' rule.

Noted. Emergencies are one exception to this rule.

How about in instances in a 2-lane main avenue where there's a car signalling to the left to enter an establishment? Will you flash incessantly behind him until he yields and lets you go? Or are you going to overtake on the 'dangerous' right?

Simple, child; you WAIT until the vehicle in front of you completes the turn. That's the decent and mature thing to do. No need to flash, no need to honk, and there's certainly no need to endanger pedestrians and other motorists on the right side with your impatience.

And you still haven't answered my LTO question. I'm assigning that as your homework.

I'm not about to let somebody, who doesn't get the facts correctly to educate me.

Those who pretend to be blind, find it the hardest to see.

Mas nakakainis yung pag naka stop ka waiting for red left signal light to turn green nasa likod mo flash ng flash ng headlights nya, sort of FORCING you to turn left! Porke walang dumadaan na sasakyan pipilitin ka mag violate ng rule!

Sinabi mo pa. Dedma lang ako pag ganyan. Kung gusto niya, overtake siya sa akin sa kanan para maka-left siya agad. Pasensyahan na lang kung me nag-aabang na traffic enforcer sa kabila. ;)

[Radical!]

Same thing. As long as there's pavement, whether it's a city street or an expressway, the same traffic rules apply. The leftmost lane, being closest to the middle of the road, should be the passing lane.

No arguments here, the left most lane IS the passing lane. You still havent answered my question, is passing on the right illegal?

Noted. Emergencies are one exception to this rule.

Aside from emergencies, there is such a thing as safely passing on the right. Again, the left turning vehicle. There's no rule that says you cannot safely pass on the right of a left turning vehicle...do your research and get back to me. If there's any rule in the world that says so, then I clam up.

Simple, child; you WAIT until the vehicle in front of you completes the turn. That's the decent and mature thing to do. No need to flash, no need to honk, and there's certainly no need to endanger pedestrians and other motorists on the right side with your impatience.

Good, I sense a bit of maturity rubbing on to you then. Weren't you the decent one who flashes your lights on vehicles 'camping' on the left lane? Oh, yeah, so now, you would rather wait patiently for the guy in front about to make a left turn when probably several cars behind you scratch their heads in frustration hoping you would pass safely on the right of the left turning vehicle.

And you still haven't answered my LTO question. I'm assigning that as your homework.

No thanks, I dont see the need to answer your LTO question. It's not related. In fact, the LTO doesn't even state or fine overtaking on the right. Does that make overtaking on the right illegal? Read again... and please quote something that says it is illegal to overtake on the right. I'm patient enough to read your replies so...I'll wait...

Those who pretend to be blind, find it the hardest to see.

You probably have a book on quotable quotes...look for "overtaking on the right, it's illegal." There's a chance it just might be there.


Oh, back to the topic....It's an 'irritating pinoy ugali' when someone flashes their lights behind me when I had just courteously pulled out to the left to overtake a slower vehicle in front of me.

To the mods and the thread starter...my humblest apologies for going off topic...