Expressway Goons

[froshie1]

Both of you are goons in the Expressway. Doing 160 - 180 is breaking the law already. Besides our Expressway is not designed for those kinds of speeds. Mali kayong 2, Corolla for being stuck up sa passing lane, and for horsepower doing a 120 steady speed and 160-180 to zoom once in awhile (if I understood it right) on the expressway, unless you're going to overtake use the passing lane but do you really need to go 160?

Anyway both of you are endangering other motorists in the express way.

[redorange]

What's the max speed limit allowed at SLEX and NLEX anyways?

[heightdeprived]

The tip that I got from OTEP is use your left turn indicator to indicate that you want to overtake or pass them.

This is effective. I first saw it on a video of a car in autobahn...

[heightdeprived]

What's the max speed limit allowed at SLEX and NLEX anyways?

100 but you can run up to 120kph w/o apprehension. (benefit of the doubt on various speedometer accuracies)

[chris_d]

I drive on the slex everyday, the road should be safe enough to drive up to 100-120kph.

I also hate it when a slow car its on the passing lane, they should let a faster vehicle pass, lalo na kung takbo nila below 80. Slow vehicles travelling below 60kph should be banned on both the SLEX (and NLEX) since yun rin naman yung usual minimum speed allowed.

[baker123]

What's the max speed limit allowed at SLEX and NLEX anyways?

100kph sa nlex. enforced when going to manila. but on northbound vehicles the speed limit is not really enforced. you will see the nlex patrol cars most of the time instead.

sir hp easy lang. alam naman natin ang knowledge lang ng drivers in the phils. kaming mga taga probinsya, we dont really use the proper (headlight flashing) to attract the attention upfront. what we do is we just use our signal lights and go pass the other lane. yun naman ang norm sa atin diba? kaya nga fast cars sa nlex parang nag i-slalom, we go left and right and go weaving sa traffic hehehehe. anyway, i recommend you do the same next time. di pa iinit ulo mo.

[Horsepower]

The left turn signal seems to be a good idea, i'll do that next time.

///MPower: He chased me probably to block me again so i had to speed up. I don't know what his problem is but that's what made me think he's a lunatic. The 180 is an instantaneous burst, just a very short dip at the takeoff speed to getaway. It didn't even last 30seconds because after 10seconds or so, i'm far already so i went back to cruising mode.

papashe16:

I didn't mean to belittle the sedan - I am not that type of person. I do that to trucks and other way bigger vehicles.

I didn't intend to speed, i am sort of climbing up because i want to be in the open part of the pack where braking would be minimal. I am a bit uncomfortable when i'm enclosed so i always go for open space.

Doing 80, even outside the passing lane, is not fine (although not wrong because you are following the limit - it's a grey area) if everyone is going faster than that, you should follow the speed flow of vehicular "wave".

I honk to them to let them know that i am asking them politely to get off the passing lane because i need to pass. It's not my intention to irritate them because i won't waste my time doing that.

I honk because as much as possible, i do not want to overtake in the wrong lane because that would endanger me and other motorists.

A lot of people know that if you are being flashed, you change lane to the right. You don't need a driving school for that. It's a very basic driving knowledge you get when you take the driving licensure exams.

Froshie1: yeah, 180 is bad but i needed to getaway because he suddenly chased me.

redorange: 80 SLEX, 100 NLEX, but it was implemented around the time of ancient cars so i assume they think cars would have a hard time stopping at speeds higher than that.

Anyway, I follow it as much as possible.

Baker123: Sir snake driving naman po yun e. hehehe. Tama po kayo na mas madali syang gawin pero as much as possible sana, gusto ko yung derecho lang takbo ko para mas safe.

Pero mas gusto ko mag-drive sa probinsya. Mas madali kasama mga tao sa daan dahil may common sense. Dito sa MM sobrang stressful mag drive.

[XTO]

very comfortable siguro siya sa left/passing lane kaya pagpasensyahan na
lang, hindi siguro nya nalalaman ang ginagawa nya. but kung
provincial bus ang tumutok sa kanya? even without a honk sigurado tatabi
yan. malamang naliitan sa santa fe. hindi natakot eh katwiran ng
mga ogag na ganyan eh "paliparin mo". la na pag-asa yang mga yan.

[Patonten]

obviously, dito lang sa thread na 'to makikita mo na more or less kung ano klase driver meron sa pinas......im just really amazed na ok lang pala na ilawan mo ng ilawan at bingihin mo sa kabubsina ang isang sasakyan na ayaw mag give way na wla kang idea kung ayw talga dahil bastos o hindi nakakaintindi smantalang pwede ka naman pumask sa kanan kung clear naman, which would you prefer to do if you're on the situation :

1. mag tail gate ka, ilawan mo ng ilawan, businahan mo ng businahan despite of the fact na nakikita at narrinig ka naman tapos oovertake ka din naman sa kanan pag di ka pinag bigyan, at mag 160 to 180 kph pag nakalusot ka, or

2. ilawan mo lang two times pag wlang response, overtake carefully on the right side, di mo naman kailangan mag 160 to 180 kph ka dahil mauuna ka talaga dahil mabagal yung isa.

remember po na ang sasakyan ay gamit lang ng tao, pag binaligtad po ninyo ang ibig sabhin nyan (tao gamit ng sasakyan), [SIZE=5][SIZE=3]AKSIDENTE [/SIZE] [/SIZE]po ang labas nyan.

wag po nyo masamain ito, paalala lang

[Horsepower]

Patonten: Like I said in the story, eventually, i did what i don't want to do, I did overtake from the right then the lunatic chased me.

I endangered myself because that driver didn't get off the passing lane. People like that driver is the reason why snake driving is rampant in the expressways. If only those slow drivers would stick to their lane, then it would be a breeze to drive in our expressways.

[redorange]

Not to rain on your parade but if the guy was going 80km/h which is the max speed limit as you say, then he wasn't doing anything wrong even though he is in the passing lane because he is traveling at the max allowable speed. When you pass other cars you are still not to exceed the max speed limit, hence the term max speed limit, you're supposed to be able to pass within the max speed allowed by the law. The passing lane was placed there so you can pass vehicles who are traveling less than the max speed limit, not the ones who are already traveling at the max speed limit. You are also not to assume that the because of better vehicle technology that it has been raised to 100+km/h unless it has been posted. Limits are set taking not just the vehicle ability into consideration but the road conditions and the driving ability of the drivers who travel on the road. If you'd have been in an accident while passing to the right then your argument wouldn't stand because the other car wasn't doing anything wrong as he was within the speed permitted by the law and you were not.

Edit: I'm presuming that you were traveling the SLEX since the initial post mentioned the SLEX and not NLEX. Also since you slowed to 70km/h then he most likely was traveling at 80km/h because you mentioned passing him at 100+km/h.

Edit: Please don't rationalize reckless driving and road rage by blaming other cars on the road as the roads were made for you to share with others. If you felt the other driver was being an ass then you could have been the better man and moved on rather than going down to his level and being a bigger one. Remember driving is a privilege not a right that was given to you.

[mbeige]

I think for passing, you can go beyond the speed limit. Provided that when you get back into the right lane, you're within the speed limit. Eh para saan pa ang passing kung lahat kayo eh doing 100kph so wala na makaka-overtake di ba?

[oldblue]

80 kph is soo slow in the passing lane. delikado baka mabangga ka pa sa likod ng speeding truck or bus.

120 is also slow din. I tried maintaining 120kph sa starex coz it's a van. I always get honked on by large SUV's and speeding buses and trucks.

even in a starex, average speed ko eh 130-135kph. the santa fe is really a speed demon I must admit bec. sobrang insulated sa loob. when you're driving * 120kph, hindi talaga nararamdaman ang wind resistance sa loob.

that's why siguro madami gusto humabol sa min, kahit hindi namin sinadsadya, plus some popular car owners are irked by the fact that we're only driving a Hyundai.

madami din talaga may ego problem sa expressway. last 2 weekends lang, a Nissan patrol chased me and flashed lights on me during daylight, I let him pass only to overtake him 3 mins. after. pilit na hinabol ako hanggang tollgate pero wala eh hindi CRDi ang car nya, and I was only driving a Starex.

[eugenecruz]

Kaya nga ako whenever I am cruising to NLEX every weekend(northbound), I'm always looking at my rearview mirror pag nasa left lane ako, para di na kailangan i-flash ako, kase ako na ang kusang tatabi to the right lane.

I usually cruise at the speed of 90-95kph average and 100kph pag gusto ko umovertake. anyway my ride is getz 1.1 and di pwede masyado ihataw. at kahit pwede na ihataw, I will stick to my 90-95kph avarage.

OT: minsan, there was a corrola altis tailgaiting me, pero naka-bright(head light)sya kahit na nasa right lane na ako. grabe nakakasilaw, kaya napikon ako. so ang ginawa ko is pinauna ko sya then, nag-bright na rin ako para malaman nya na nakakasilaw ang ginawa nya.

[cutedoc]

medyo swapang ako sa daan lalo na when i am at nlex, though my speed is normally 120 not lower than 100kph its the speed set by the govt, sometimes i go over a bit of 120 but not too much and i always stay on the passing lane.

my point is 100-120 is the max speed so if im cruising at that level, i see no reason why cars at the back off me will still need to overtake=p

though when i think there are no patrol or some roads are under construction i go way up than 120kph=p still on the passing lane

if you want just follow my lead hehehe

OT: sould have number 2 painted on my back so when the cars at my back sees it, he will know that im number 1 and his number 2 and thats it=)

[weremanok]

Eh para saan pa ang passing kung lahat kayo eh doing 100kph so wala na makaka-overtake di ba?

exactly. kung ang speed limit ay 100kph tapos lahat kayo ay 100kph, baket ka pa mag-oovertake?

[niwde11]

pano kung you are alone and travelling 100kph san kayo pupuwesto. sa leftmost?
i think what the guys are telling is the lefmost lane is for passing(priority rule if i may say).
ngayon kung meron sa right side mo at meron din sa right side nya(and so on) travelling at 100kph sa leftmost is alright.
kaya bahala na yung nasa likod mo kung lalagpas sya speed limit. as long as you are in a proper lane you will not irritate yung nasa likod mo.
example for those people travelling 100-120kph and occupying the leftmost lane(even though clear yung right lane nila) dahil katwiran nila max na sila(gaya nung ugok na bus na kasabay ko dati), meron ambulance na tumatakbo sa passing lane over the 120kph. di pinagbigyan kagad nung bus. nung magbibigay na biglang umovertake sa kanan din yung ambulance. muntik na mabungo. palagay nyo mali yung ambulance? e kung nasa right lane na ba yung bus nung una pa lang de sana smooth straight line yung ambulance. kaya parang ang hirap yata intindihin yung kung max ka na, justifed to stay on the left lane kahit free yung the next right lane sayo.:sigh:

[redorange]

I think for passing, you can go beyond the speed limit. Provided that when you get back into the right lane, you're within the speed limit. Eh para saan pa ang passing kung lahat kayo eh doing 100kph so wala na makaka-overtake di ba?

I hope you don't do that in here cause I know you'll find out from CHP that your reasoning doesn't hold true and you also can't say you are just going with the flow of traffic. The max limit is just that and passing is not a reason to exceed the limit. Just because the max limit is 100 or 80 doesn't mean everyone is traveling at the max limit, there are still those going below the max speed limit and above the minimum speed limit. The passing lane was meant so you could pass the people traveling slower than max speed limit not those already traveling the legal max speed limit. If everyone was traveling 100km/h then there really is no need to be passing since you would be breaking the law because that means you are traveling faster than the maximum permitted speed.

[redorange]

pano kung you are alone and travelling 100kph san kayo pupuwesto. sa leftmost?
i think what the guys are telling is the lefmost lane is for passing(priority rule if i may say).
ngayon kung meron sa right side mo at meron din sa right side nya(and so on) travelling at 100kph sa leftmost is alright.
kaya bahala na yung nasa likod mo kung lalagpas sya speed limit. as long as you are in a proper lane you will not irritate yung nasa likod mo.
example for those people travelling 100-120kph and occupying the leftmost lane(even though clear yung right lane nila) dahil katwiran nila max na sila(gaya nung ugok na bus na kasabay ko dati), meron ambulance na tumatakbo sa passing lane over the 120kph. di pinagbigyan kagad nung bus. nung magbibigay na biglang umovertake sa kanan din yung ambulance. muntik na mabungo. palagay nyo mali yung ambulance? e kung nasa right lane na ba yung bus nung una pa lang de sana smooth straight line yung ambulance. kaya parang ang hirap yata intindihin yung kung max ka na, justifed to stay on the left lane kahit free yung the next right lane sayo.:sigh:

Your example would be valid except all drivers are supposed to let emergency vehicles pass without delay regardless of your speed. Now if the other cars in the right lane were traveling at 70 and you are traveling on the passing lane at 80 which is the limit, and another car behind you starts flashing his lights at you to pass because he wants to go 100 should you move? I'd say yes you could and let the guy kill himself if he wants to as he speeds pass you. Do you have to? No, because you are already at the legal limit and passing the slower traffic going 70. But to call the guy traveling within the legal limit a goon because he didn't want to let you pass so you could do 120, fill your ego, and have a superiority complex that's just the pot calling the kettle black.

[XTO]

Minsan lang ako mag NLEX or SLEX but I noticed na siguro mga frequent user
na sila like kabisado na nila yung road condition esp sa SLEX - talagang sa
shoulder na overtaking maneuvers kala ko baligtad na eh. Nakaka-tempt
tuloy pero takot ako wala ka laban pag biglang nag-swerve yung nasa loob.

I noticed also walang nahuhuli ng swerving during those time. Tsk tsk ano yun
nalalagyan dahil maraming gumagawa eh?

agree ako kay cutedoc, even 100km/hr lang ako hindi ako aalis sa inner lane.
kung bus or trucks ang nasa likod ibang usapan pero the thing is i'm already
at the max speed limit so no need to stay at the center or outside lane. if
they want to go beyond the max allowable speed it's their free choice to use
the right lane.