CARMAGEDDON: Skyway Stage 3

[shadow]

Palitan ng bago train, dagdag ng coaches. Eh yun increase nga Sa fare ayaw magbayad ng mga riders eh. Which supposedly they should be paying to begin with.


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#retzing

[vinj]

At the end, no pain, no gain. The NLEX-SLEX link is one vital cog in clearing the roads of trucks and commerce between the highways and the port area.

The problem with the Skyway is this: it is one big bypass that creates a bottleneck at the point where it merges with the traffic below. Bottleneck = traffic slows down.

And then they add another Skyway from the north. Parang mali.

Solution:
Since everyone is going towards Makati in the morning, the authorities should find ways to make the traffic move faster in Makati.

Example: Why not put another road on top of Buendia Ave. with the ground level going one way and the higher level going the other way. Hindi siya bypass.

This was one of my concerns, traffic management on the exit/entrance points. Ideally there should be spur or access roads before the ramps but unfortunately space restrictions are an issue. Another thing they can do is to just lengthen the separated lanes before and after the exit points on top of the skyway to keep the cars in line going to the exit.

which made me wonder why not just push for the c6 road? kasi it'll be free? no private company would be happy for 25 years or so? at least if c6 ang connector road less pollution sa metro.

C6 is one road that i see as vital in decongesting EDSA and C5 as it is a major access road to the east side of the Metro. I wonder why they just don't get their hinds moving on this road.

Palitan ng bago train, dagdag ng coaches. Eh yun increase nga Sa fare ayaw magbayad ng mga riders eh. Which supposedly they should be paying to begin with.


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#retzing

eto talaga ang nakakabwiset. I find our LRT/MRT fares ridiculously low. To play, you gotta pay!

[niky]

The north end of the Skyway is absolutely ridiculous. The placement at the Buendia flyover creates more traffic than necessary, and the pre-Buendia exit is useless, as the people who would ordinarly use it are better served by the Don Bosco internal exit. That middle exit should have been after the stoplight before Buendia... and the Skyway southbound entrance should be further back from the Buendia flyover.

Actually... the whole thing should overshoot Buendia... if not for that pesky grocery store on the west side... grrrr... :hysterical:

[leodawesome]

I'd rather be stressed in traffic inside my own car than to be stressed riding our public trains. Add to that the increasing number of crimes inside them.

[automot0]

This will be really really really really really bad as coming from experience of being affected by the first Skyway construction and Skyway Stage 2, commuting from Manila to the South has really been one of the most hated experiences of my life.
And since the first Skyway has been built a decade ago and the volume of cars, trucks, buses & motorcycles has been out of control over the years.
Here are 10 Reasons why it would be the apocalypse for motorists:

1. There will be construction accidents, and it will happen given the accidents I've witnessed.
2. It won't be finished on time (who knows anything can delay it)
3. Get ready for more road rage incidents, hoping no one would get shot.
4. Lots of cars, trucks, buses and motorcycles(I wish...) will be breaking down due to the long traffic jams causing more traffic jams.
5. Flooding? Construction debris(sand, cement) and drainages don't mix.
6. The first and second skyway only affected SLEX (a 6 lane tollway), Stage 3 would be affecting multiple main thoroughfares, roads, avenues, etc....
7. Typhoons wrecking havoc on the Construction Site/Equipment, the cranes would fly off like twigs.
8. If the project becomes over budget or other financial reason for delay.
9. When politics intervene (bound to happen :P)
10. And when more NEW vehicles add to the traffic (Manila please start a Car Scrapping / Recycling Program like Malaysia or Singapore)

Bonus: Earthquake, seeing that even Japan's Earthquake Proof Elevated Expressways can buckle I'm not discounting Skyway...

On the brightside, Los Angeles has nothing on Manila's Carmaggedon.

meron palang car scrapping ang malaysia at singapore ang alam ko lang sa malaysia may governing body na nag check ng road worthiness ng sasakyan kahit luma basta ok ang makina brakes at electricals pwede pa rin tumakbo

[automot0]

ang may kasalanan nito ay ang mga script writter ng pelikulang tagalog kung saan ang tema lagi ay isang mahirap na probinsyano luluwas ng maynila at biglang yayaman kaya naman lahat ng taga probinsya gusto lumuwas ng manila. lalo tuloy nagsisiksikan ang mga tao sa maynila.

[xwangbu]

Palitan ng bago train, dagdag ng coaches. Eh yun increase nga Sa fare ayaw magbayad ng mga riders eh. Which supposedly they should be paying to begin with.


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#retzing

kakitid nga naman kasi nung isang carriage ng MRT/LRT sa pinas.
half lang sya ng size ng mga trains sa Singapore and Shanghai.

[nori]

The north end of the Skyway is absolutely ridiculous. The placement at the Buendia flyover creates more traffic than necessary, and the pre-Buendia exit is useless, as the people who would ordinarly use it are better served by the Don Bosco internal exit. That middle exit should have been after the stoplight before Buendia... and the Skyway southbound entrance should be further back from the Buendia flyover.

Actually... the whole thing should overshoot Buendia... if not for that pesky grocery store on the west side... grrrr... :hysterical:

+1 here. those coming from the flyover tend to swerve from the foot of the flyover to the skyway ramp, creating a bottleneck. also yung magallanes exit, anlapit yung sign na "exit" sa actual exit. or maybe i always miss the exit signage from 1km back? hehe

eto talaga ang nakakabwiset. I find our LRT/MRT fares ridiculously low. To play, you gotta pay!

yeah! transpo should be only two of the three: comfy, fast, cheap.

comfy and fast: trains and taxi (?)
comfy and cheap: bus
fast and cheap: motorcycle

cars fall in any category, depending on your route. haha

ang mas nakakainis dyan yung mga maaarte na ayaw sumakay ng coach pag wala na vacant seats, tapos ang haba ng pila sa baba. gusto nila sila bibinyag sa next coach. very inconsiderate if you ask me. gusto sumakay sa mass transpo tapos ayaw masiksik, tapos biglang aantukin pagdating sa monumento station. im so OT. =)

kakitid nga naman kasi nung isang carriage ng MRT/LRT sa pinas.
half lang sya ng size ng mga trains sa Singapore and Shanghai.

LRT2 is wider than 1 and MRT3. maybe wala pang ganun kalapad na units nung time ng LRT1 and MRT3?

I'd rather be stressed in traffic inside my own car than to be stressed riding our public trains. Add to that the increasing number of crimes inside them.

i kinda like riding the LRT, pwede magmuni-muni for 30 minutes without worrying if you're causing traffic. hehe

[macsd]

MMDA to hire more TE for these various contruction that will be under taken. I hope they hire people who will man the traffic not just stand in the corner waiting for kotong.

[vinj]

MMDA to hire more TE for these various contruction that will be under taken. I hope they hire people who will man the traffic not just stand in the corner waiting for kotong.

Or stand still like human pylons, uselessly waving at traffic all day (like those TEs on EDSA Shaw southbound in the morning).

[Retz]

MMDA to hire more TE for these various contruction that will be under taken. I hope they hire people who will man the traffic not just stand in the corner waiting for kotong.

Sabi ni chairman tolenetino sa interview kanina kasama na sa contract ung manpower that will man ng traffic. Maybe konting lecture lang from mmda traffic enforcer. Hindi rin nila kaya mag provide additional TE sa laki ng project at 24/7 pa.

[donbuggy]

Do the authorities use traffic simulation software before starting a big project such as the Skyway? :question:

[Monseratto]

[shadow]

Do the authorities use traffic simulation software before starting a big project such as the Skyway? :question:

No use in traffic simulation software. Gago mga drivers dito.


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#retzing

[Altis6453]

If construction goes into full swing and the traffic becomes really, really untenable, I hope private companies would be considerate enough to allow flexi-time or telecommuting at work. Maybe the government can release an EO that would encourage employers to adopt a flexible work schedule so you can limit the number of cars and commuters on the roads.

[BratPAQ]

Mas yari to pag full swing na rin ang NAIA flyover sa Macapagal at edsa-taft flyover by the last quarter, tapos sabay pa ng xmas season. Goodluck!

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[Monseratto]

Beside Skyway 3, these other road project will also join in the traffic mess. Including the Espana-Lacson Flyover and North Avenue-West Avenue-EDSA interchange... Good luck to all.

MMDA asks contractors to be accountable for 15 metro projects | Nation, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

MANILA, Philippines - Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) chairman Francis Tolentino on Thursday appealed to the contractors of the 15 major infrastructure projects slated to be completed in 2016 to be accountable for the safety and traffic management concerns of their respective projects.

Speaking to the participants of the MMDA Traffic Management Summit 2 at the Asian Institute of Management, Tolentino said his agency is willing to train the contractors' flagmen on traffic management."We are here because we know that the events in the next two to six years can only turn ugly first better it can get better. We are here to manage the situation we are faced with," he said.

Tolentino again called on Metro residents, commuters and motorists to be prepared to make lifetsyle and commuting changes as the construction of the 15 major infrastructure projects get underway in the coming months.

Aside from the Skyway Stage 3 and the NAIA Expressway Phase 2 project, also scheduled for construction within the next coming months are the Gil Puyat-Makati-Avenue-Paseo de Roxas underpass,Sta. Monica-Lawton Avenue bridge, CP Garcia Avenue-McKinley Hill ramp, repair and asphalt overlay of Magallanes Interchange, EDSA-Taft Avenue flyover, MRT Line 3/ LRT Line 1 extension common station, LRT Line 2 East extension up to Masinag, LRT Line 1 Extension (Cavite), EDSA- Roosevelt Ave. interchange, Espana Avenue-Lacson Avenue interchange, repair and rehabilitation and improvement of South Superhighway Makati, the NLEX-SLEX connector road and the EDSA-West Avenue-North Avenue interchange.

The MMDA also earlier proposed that campuses in Manila's university belt area which will be affected by the construction of the infrasture projects, relocate their classes to satellite campuses outside of Metro Manila.

“Offsite campuses will help decongest student population in Metro Manila which, in turn, will redound to lesser volume of commuter, pedestrian, and vehicular volume in our road networks,” Tolentino said.

[foresterx]

baliw ba sila, pag sasabay sabayin nila lahat yan. walang problema kung skyway 3 lang tapos pag tapos na skyway 3 don simulan yung north ave-west ave tapos yung naia expressway ang last. kasi sa skyway 3 pa lang malaki na traffic mababawas sa edsa pero kung ganyan sabay sabay lahat yan gagawin malaking kalokohan na yan.

[BratPAQ]

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Beside Skyway 3, these other road project will also join in the traffic mess. Including the Espana-Lacson Flyover and North Avenue-West Avenue-EDSA interchange... Good luck to all.

MMDA asks contractors to be accountable for 15 metro projects | Nation, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

Ayos! Lilipat na ko sa MCP! Bahala na kayo dito! 😄

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[falken]

baliw ba sila, pag sasabay sabayin nila lahat yan. walang problema kung skyway 3 lang tapos pag tapos na skyway 3 don simulan yung north ave-west ave tapos yung naia expressway ang last. kasi sa skyway 3 pa lang malaki na traffic mababawas sa edsa pero kung ganyan sabay sabay lahat yan gagawin malaking kalokohan na yan.

Knowing how these geniuses think, I won't be surprised kung pagsabay sabayin nila iyan.