Car owner kills Carnapper !

[KERSMcRae]

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Car owner shoots dead carjacker in QC

MANILA - A suspected carjacker was shot and killed by an armed car owner in La Loma district, Quezon City on Monday night.

Chief Inspector Richard Fiesta of the Quezon City Police District Station 1 identified the slain suspect as Redentor Fajardo, a resident of Barangay Subic, Baliuag in Bulacan province.

Fiesta said Fajardo and three other armed carjackers forcibly took a Nissan Ford Explorer from its owner on Sta. Catalina Street, La Loma.

The car owner, who requested not to be named, said he was about to drive his vehicle into their garage when Fajardo and three other gunmen appeared.

He said his wife handed over to him his clutch bag containing his firearm right after their vehicle was forcibly taken. He said he chased the carjackers on board his own vehicle and killed Fajardo in a shootout.

Fajardo was still slumped near the Ford's driver's seat when found by policemen. His companions were able to escape.

Seized from Fajardo were a cellular phone, .45 caliber pistol, a two-way radio and a fake police identification card.

Police said Fajardo's group was also involved in several carjacking incidents in Quezon City. [SIZE=1]With a report from Doland Castro, ABS-CBN News[/SIZE]

sa owner... tapang.

[1997]

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Car owner shoots dead carjacker in QC



sa owner... tapang.

Galing ng mag asawa... may presence of mind...

[EQAddict]

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I wonder if the other carnappers will try to get revenge on him?

Having said that, he has done the world a good and brave deed.

[a3n3as]

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I wonder if the other carnappers will try to get revenge on him?

Having said that, he has done the world a good and brave deed.

good job! nakatyempo sila ng may baril, haha, malas lang nila.

[Monseratto]

Good that the media respected the car owner's request not to broadcast his identity. I didn't know there was a Nissan Ford Explorer...

Fiesta said Fajardo and three other armed carjackers forcibly took a Nissan Ford Explorer from its owner on Sta. Catalina Street, La Loma.

The car owner, who requested not to be named, said he was about to drive his vehicle into their garage when Fajardo and three other gunmen appeared.

[CVT]

Good that the media respected the car owner's request not to broadcast his identity. I didn't know there was a Nissan Ford Explorer...

^^^ Oo nga....

Nakakita sila ng katapat......

9000:snowfight1:

[praetor91313]

Naku,this is what we've been talking about in a Progun site... is this hero criminally liable?

If he can prove that they were trying to shoot him while they were driving off with his car, then he is justified in shooting them back.

If he fired the first shot while they were trying to get away from the scene, then he is liable, and he needs a good lawyer.

I've learned that after shooting someone, even if you claimed they were criminals, the relatives can still sue you. In order to extricate yourself from this mess, you must prove that you had to kill the victim because you were defending yourself or your relative. The law does not allow the taking of a life in defense of properties.

Section 1 of Article 11 of Chapter 2 of the Revised penal code states that, in defense of self:

Art. 11. Justifying circumstances. — The following do not incur any criminal liability:

1. Anyone who acts in defense of his person or rights, provided that the following circumstances concur;

First. Unlawful aggression.

Second. Reasonable necessity of the means employed to prevent or repel it.

Third. Lack of sufficient provocation on the part of the person defending himself.

If any one of these conditions is not met, then you have an incomplete case of self-defense and may be held liable. So you better get a good lawyer.

Pag tumakas na kasi yung carnappers, then you are not in immediate danger.

[tiquico]

May precedent case ito. I dunno kung may verdict na. Yung case ni Sonny Parsons na pinasok yung bahay niya tapos hinogtied sila. Noong umalis na yung AKYAT BAHAY, nakawala sa tali si Sonny Parsons at hinabol yung mga nanloob. Napatay nya yung isa. Self defense ang reason ni ex-Hagibis member. Si Alfredo Lim yata ang kinuha nyang abogado.

[Monseratto]

Naku,this is what we've been talking about in a Progun site... is this hero criminally liable?

I've learned that after shooting someone, even if you claimed they were criminals, the relatives can still sue you. In order to extricate yourself from this mess, you must prove that you had to kill the victim because you were defending yourself or your relative. The law does not allow the taking of a life in defense of properties.

If any one of these conditions is not met, then you have an incomplete case of self-defense and may be held liable. So you better get a good lawyer.

Pag tumakas na kasi yung carnappers, then you are not in immediate danger.

Only in the Philippines, you're liable for the criminal's life even when they're running away with your property. The law-abiding citizens always get screwed by screwed up laws made by screwed-up lawmakers...

[ghosthunter]

A gunless society just makes us all potential victims of robbers and thieves.

Even in UK where there is nearly no guns and video cams everywhere, criminality is still everywhere.

An armed society is a polite society.

[KERSMcRae]

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/me...d-carjacker-qc

^oops..

im also thinking of creating a new thread for this, but i decided to search for a (related) thread and posted it here..

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38328

[artpogi]

hahaha buti nga

[Mile2]

Swerte pa pala yung carnaper na nahuli namin dito sa Makati, buhay at pinagpiyestahan ng mga high ranking police official sa photo shoot with media

One way mirror yung glass ng office namin ng mapansin namin na may tao sa loob ng car ng boss namin, right there sinugod namin kasama yung security guard namin, tatakas sana yung carnaper pero paglabas niya binalya na namin yung pinto kaya naipit yung isang hita at isang braso niya na pinilipit ng mga janitor namin hehehe. Di siya binitiwan sa puwesto na yon hanggang dumating ang responde ng pulis pero siyempre lookout kami baka may kasama sa paligid at may baril. Nagdatingan ang mga de ranggo na police official at siyempre photo shoot sila sa media

[coiter]

buti nga sa carnapper! pero this could also mean they'd be bolder next time that instead of leaving the car owner alive, patayin na lang nila agad para wala nang chance makaganti.

bakit nga ba nasa goon squad tong thread? hindi ba dapat sa thumbs up? :D

[Altis6453]

Naku,this is what we've been talking about in a Progun site... is this hero criminally liable?

If he can prove that they were trying to shoot him while they were driving off with his car, then he is justified in shooting them back.

If he fired the first shot while they were trying to get away from the scene, then he is liable, and he needs a good lawyer.

I've learned that after shooting someone, even if you claimed they were criminals, the relatives can still sue you. In order to extricate yourself from this mess, you must prove that you had to kill the victim because you were defending yourself or your relative. The law does not allow the taking of a life in defense of properties.

Section 1 of Article 11 of Chapter 2 of the Revised penal code states that, in defense of self:

If any one of these conditions is not met, then you have an incomplete case of self-defense and may be held liable. So you better get a good lawyer.

Pag tumakas na kasi yung carnappers, then you are not in immediate danger.

I believe all the elements are present to warrant the citizen's justifiable shooting of the carnapper. Baka nga hindi pa makarating sa city prosecutor ang kaso e dismissed na.

[nurse_corrupted]

I think may unlawful aggression na agad because the car was forcibly taken from him. It also violated his rights, hanapin na lang natin what those right are sa Bill of Rights sa constitution natin.

Hence, shooting the criminal is justifiable. It has done our society good which is getting rid of this criminal that could victimize other people.

I don't know why the law screws up the people who did good.

[KERSMcRae]

Only in the Philippines, you're liable for the criminal's life even when they're running away with your property. The law-abiding citizens always get screwed by screwed up laws made by screwed-up lawmakers...

I'll borrow (again) this line from a motoring columnist (Backseat Driver):

"Our laws are good, it's the system that suck$!"

kumbaga e "..malasadong batas"

[JackFlash]

Only in the Philippines, you're liable for the criminal's life even when they're running away with your property. The law-abiding citizens always get screwed by screwed up laws made by screwed-up lawmakers...

Nope, not only in the Philippines. The same version of this law also exists in the US. When I was there, I read about a man who shot & wounded someone who entered his house. The intruder survived but sued the homeowner for attempted homicide! Di ko lang alam kung anong nangyari afterwards.

Back on topic - no wonder the carjackers wanted to take this car. It was unique. Biro mo, NISSAN FORD EXPLORER? Yan ang hybrid!

[sippy]

wag po tayong mag alala...matitinik ho na mga abogado ang kapamilya nya at ang hahawak sa kanya....

kaya walang nangyayari sa mga kriminal sa Pinas, ay puro nag babase sa batas na walang ka kwenta kwenta. Hindi na ito matatapos kung pati mga ordinaryong tao ay susunod na lang lagi sa ganitong promulgasyon. Tiyak ko, kung ang gumawa ng batas na yan ay sya ang na karnap, kung kasing tapang nya ang taong ito, marahil ay hahabulin din nya hanggang sa mawalan ng hininga. Magpasalamat na lang tayo na at least ang Pilipinas ay nabawasan na ng isang carnapper. Mauubos din yang mga yan.

[slalom]

Parang wala naman kalaban laban tayo mamamayan. Isipin mo na na na carnap na sasakyan mo at pag patakas na eh ang iisipin mo pa (naku di ko pwede barilin to kasi makakasuhan ako makukulong ako hayaan ko na tangayin nya sasakyan ko) hayy... protektado pa pala carnaper hehe didilaan ka pa :bleh:belat di mo ko pwede barilin