BUS accident again

[zantets]

Napaka-iresponsable ng statement na iyon ng kanilang presidenteng si Ms. dela Fuente....

Dapat lang na alalahanin niya kung saan siya nanggaling para niya maunawaan ang kalagayan ng mga taong sumasakay sa pampublikong sasakyan.....

8505:bat:

wala naman alam sa transportasyon ang babaeng yan. alam nya lang kumanta.
president of the Integrated Metropolitan Bus Operators Association? lol

[BratPAQ]

Also, provincial buses rarely scamper for passengers along the main Manila thoroughfares since they are normally packed when they leave their terminals. They can still be a bit of pain though since they normally drive outside of the yellow lanes, but I personally rarely had to give them a honk along EDSA.

The city buses are the ones that give me the most headaches during my day-to-day driving.

boss, di ba city bus lang ang yellow lanes? kasi city bus lang ang nagbababa at nagsasakay sa kalsada eh. provincial bus eh BAWAL sa yellow lane.

[zantets]

Also, provincial buses rarely scamper for passengers along the main Manila thoroughfares since they are normally packed when they leave their terminals. They can still be a bit of pain though since they normally drive outside of the yellow lanes, but I personally rarely had to give them a honk along EDSA.

yes mas behave nga sila sa metro kasi puno na,
pero dito sa amin (bataan) mga balasubas din magmaneho kapag papunta pa lang ng manila at konti sakay.
Ang mga magkakalabang bus na ito nagkakarerahan from bataan up to pampaga and nlex.

Kanina nga, i was following a bus (bataan transit) na papuntang manila, we passed another bus (genesis) na nakahinto sa shoulder waiting for passengers, aba nung nukita ng genesis yung kalaban nyang bataan transit na dumadaan, biglang cut sakin yung kumag na genesis, ginitgit ako, kinuha lane ko at harurot para humabol sa kalaban nya. Biglang preno na lang ako,
Harurot yung mga bus, overtake dito overtake doon, yung mga kasalubong na mga sasakyan napupunta nga sa shoulder sa kakailag hehe.
I tried to follow them, nasa 80-100kph takbo nila. Nakakatakot kasi may mga schools silang nadaanan at maraming tumatawid na bata. Tsk tsk

[oliver1013]

Sa dami ng aksidente na involved ang bus drivers, sana magkaroon ng open season kahit isang araw lang, na ITS LEGAL TO SHOOT A BUS DRIVER!!

[rai711]

Sa dami ng aksidente na involved ang bus drivers, sana magkaroon ng open season kahit isang araw lang, na ITS LEGAL TO SHOOT A BUS DRIVER!!

Hwag naman sir oliver be kind to animals, pwede na sir yung lahat ng napinsala nya, kasama yung mga pasahero nya, pilapila isa isa babatukan yung driver para magtanda

[oj88]

Bus drivers and conductors which are paid a percentage of their daily boundary earnings will always lead them to drive recklessly. In an interview, an anonymous bus driver along EDSA admitted that he has to be "ma-diskarte" in order to get as much passengers and do as many trips as he can in a day. He further added; "Kung kailangan makipag-basagan ako ng side mirror [with another bus], gagawin ko para lang makakuha ng pasahero".

Having the drivers/conductors, in essence, "rewarded" for being reckless, just puts the nail in the coffin. Bus operators must understand (or at least admit) that when you push these deivers/conductors to produce, the safety gloves are off and people die.

[speed unlimited]

Pag nag apply ka malaking kumpanya ng bus liner sa interview tinatanong nila kung ilan na nasagasaan , nabangga . at napatay sa aksidente . dito nila siguro binabase na pag marami kang aksidente involved ibig sabihin professional driver ka. Tanong lang dahil ba malaki ang sasakyan na bus malakas loob ng driver na barumbado magmaneho lalo na kung maliit ang masisingitan . Paalala lang sa mga kapwa ko tsikoteers observation lang pag nakauna ng kaunti pagsingit ng bus huwag na natin pilitin kahit alam nating tama tayo. Kung hindi sabit at sakit ulo lang dahil alam nila malaki sasakyan nila. Paalala lang.

[shadow]

until maging gov't control ang serive ng mga buses walang mangyayari sa klase ng pasweldo, tingnan din natin kung meron basic pay ang mga drivers, pwede na rin silang mag pa petiks-petiks since hinde na sila kukuha ng passengers and yet meron silang sweldo, kawawa rin ang operators pag ganyan, saan sila kukuha ng pang sweldo kung hinde naman kumukita ang mga buses nila?

[oj88]

until maging gov't control ang serive ng mga buses walang mangyayari sa klase ng pasweldo, tingnan din natin kung meron basic pay ang mga drivers, pwede na rin silang mag pa petiks-petiks since hinde na sila kukuha ng passengers and yet meron silang sweldo, kawawa rin ang operators pag ganyan, saan sila kukuha ng pang sweldo kung hinde naman kumukita ang mga buses nila?

I believe this is the job for inspectors. Their job is to make sure that their buses are able to accomplish the minimum number of trips and bus fare ticket sales, among other things.

I would like to clarify my previous post in that, bus operators can still provide bonuses or incentives for drivers/conductors who exceed the daily quota, but up to a certain extent only. There should be a cap on what the maximum allowable incentive they can get. So say, if an average bus earns P8,000 a day (example only), if the bus driver and conductor earns P8,001-10,000, they get a certain amount commensurate to the extra earnings. But if they exceed the P10k earning, they'll get nothing more for that.

I don't know if this will work.

[p_borj]

Ako naman kada dumadaan ako dito sa Edsa Central Edsa (Ibabaw) eh natatakot ako sa mga bus dahil ang lakas nga manggitgit.

1 day Alto ang dala ko, nasa labas ako ng yellow lane pero ayun nagmamadali itong isang red na bus. Punye*#$, matutulad na yata ako sa mga nakikita ko sa TV. Eh ang liit ng auto ko, nakatutok ng todo sa likod ko (take note nasa labas ng yellow lane ako patawid ng crossing sa Shaw blvd), flash pa ng flash ng headlights tapos maririnig mo yung malakas na rev tapos kada tingin ko sa likod eh pumepreno ng malakas kung kelan malapit na sa akin. Tapos change lane ng change lane, minsan sa akin nakabuntot tapos pag nakitang sa lane ko gumagalaw, biglang tutok sa likod ko Punye*#$. Eh kung mabangga si Alto ko, eh sigurado durog ako sa liit. (sa pagdrive ng bus driver eh kahit pa naka Fortuner ka eh madudurog ka rin).

nakikipagunahan kasi dun sa bus stop dun sa Megamall. Kungdi rin kasi mga G*#$ ang MMDA, eh dahil sa mga bus stop na yan lalo na sa Megamall eh nagsisikip tuloy hanggang sa crossing. Red yung bus so malamang Don Mariano yun hay naku.

Thank God wala namang nangyari. Pero kung ako eh nabangga talaga, ilalabas ko kagad yung balisong kong kinakalawang at bubutasin ko kagad ang mga gulong niya!

[KERSMcRae]

saw a news sa tv kanina, pinulong daw ng ltfrb ang mga bus operators about this alarming bus killings,
sadly nagkasundo lang na dapat daw magtake ng "neuro" at "drug testing" mga drivers na i-hihire nila.
what a solution...

Obviously walang kwentang solution ang magagawa nila. Kasi these bus operators have connections higher up, especially now na palapit na election time and politicians are already starting up ask them for protection money.

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Buses to have black boxes - DOTC
By Dennis Carcamo (philstar.com) Updated August 27, 2009 03:37 PM

MANILA, Philippines -- All passenger buses nationwide will be required to have black boxes or speed regulators to avoid fatal accidents in the future, the Department Transportation and Communications (DOTC) said today (Aug. 27).

"This is to protect them (drivers) also and the riding public," DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza said after meeting with bus operators this afternoon. "The black box will inform the office of the bus operator when a driver is overspeeding."

He noted that blackboxes have already been used by large trucking companies to monitor their shipments.

Aside from the gadget, Mendoza said they will be deploying traffic personnel in strategic areas in major thoroughfares to conduct random drug and alcohol testing.

I dont think this is effective. Blackboxes dont control/dictate drivers' judgement.

[oj88]

^ So true. Overspeeding is just one of a dozen other infractions bus drivers commit everyday; swerving, overstaying at bus stops, stopping to pick up passengers in the middle lane.. just to name a few.

Adding traffic cameras and installing speed cameras (with competent people or AI manning them) would probably be a tad more helpful.

[rai711]

Do you heard the news??? lalagyan na daw ng GPS yung mga bus para makita yung speed and biglang liko ng mga bus na yun ang nagiging dahilan ng accidents. bakit hindi na lang electric chair ilagay nila sa bus para pag nag over speed and biglang kabig ang bus makukuryente yung driver:evillaugh:evillaugh

[KERSMcRae]

Still it will NOT prevent accidents. If true, this is helpful AFTER such incidents. And who will shoulder the cost, the operators?
Kung fixed salary nga ng mga drayber at konduktor nila hindi nila maibigay, yung pa kaya P20,000+ GPS unit per bus plus subscription fees.

[jeDi13]

IMO, buses should have a scheduled arrival and departure time (just like in other countries like Japan, Singapore, etc.). Those drivers should just get another job. If they are really "madiskarte", show their skills in a different profession. Itong LTFRB din naman kasi, approve lang nang approve ng franchise applications. Eh nagkukumahog na nga sa sikip mga bus sa EDSA. Palibhasa they're just after their selfish interest.

[Monseratto]

Heard over the news that the goverment will introduce a tougher one-strike policy. A PUV driver involved in accident will automatically be suspended, pending an investigation. If it is proven if it is the PUV driver's fault, his driver license will be revoked or something like that...

[praetor91313]

Adding traffic cameras and installing speed cameras (with competent people or AI manning them) would probably be a tad more helpful.

I think they've done this before... may makikita kang lalagyan ng camera sa mga poste sa EDSA, lalo ng yung sa MMDA na main office nila. Laglayan na lang natira, wala na yung cameras. As usual, ninakaw na...

[speed unlimited]

In the news bus driver earn 800.00 a day for driving 13hrs. He already on a quota basis maybe a lot of drivers are pressure with this system of the bus company .

[Lucius]

In the news bus driver earn 800.00 a day for driving 13hrs. He already on a quota basis maybe a lot of drivers are pressure with this system of the bus company .

Still, they're risking lives of the passengers. Kung buhay ng pamilya nila ang iniisip nila isipin din nila yung sakay.

Dapat sa mga yan, sunugin kasama ung mga bus nila. Including the operators.

[mda]

Maybe they can fit these buses's blackboxes to also have acceleration limiters as well.

Malabo mangyari though, given you'll have to retrofit thousands of the old buses which aren't even maintained properly. I saw a few weeks ago isang bus na namatayan habang nag y-youturn sa may gateway/edsa. The traffic definitely wasn't pretty.