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  1. Join Date
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    #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    anyabang ng mokong na to

    Connected sa starbright to
    [url="http://ktfo.multiply.com/"]

    http://doctjay.multiply.com/photos/a...naboy_kotse_ko
    Mukhang gumagamit na ng ibang tao sa dirty tactic department. Resorting to couterposting ha?! Ginamit pa si Atoy, hahaha. Style, bulok! Subukan kaya nila mag-post nang ganyan dito.

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    #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Apex_i View Post
    [SIZE=1]UPDATE: nagkausap kami kahapon and sinisisi niya yung chief fabricator niya, hindi raw alam ni Andy yung nangyari dahil nasa China daw siya noon. Yung chief fabricator daw niya hindi maasikaso kasi na mild stroke daw, yung isang tao daw niya ang nagsukat sa kotse ko. Pero hindi pa daw nalagyan ng fiberglass nung may sumita daw tinangal daw bigla. Kaya nasira yung sasakyan. At hindi daw nito pinaalam sa kanila. Hindi na raw pumapasok ngayon yung tao na nagkamali (tulad ng guard nila na hindi na rin daw pumapasok) Ang sinisisi niya talaga sa nangyari ay yung chief fabricator niya, sa tingin ko naman di naman gagawa yung kung walang consent galing sa mas mataas sa kanila. Ang sabi ko kay Andy gusto ko talaga na palitan nila ng bagong sasakyan yung kotse ko, kaso parang ang suggestion nila ay try muna nila ayusin then if ever na hindi ako masatisfy, parang maguusap na lang ulit. Sympre hindi ako pumayag dahil remedyo lang ang gagawin nila . Kakausapin nung may-ari ng casa yung sa insurance pero sympre hindi naman ako papayag na sa insurance kunin dahil parang kami pa rin ang sasagot nun diba?!?! So hinihintay ko pa ulit yung tawag ni Andy and owner ng Casa. UPDATE ko ulit kayo.[/SIZE]
    Whatever are his alibis, he is still responsible. If he thinks that he can negotiate better to his favor if he points the blame to his hapless employees, I think, he is wrong. Mas tumindi pa tuloy yung sentiment ko to your favor. Kung inako na nya from the start of the talk yung kapalpakan ng shop and naki-usap baka nakuha pa nya empathy ko.

    Kawawa naman yung Chief fabricator, naging escape goat pa ata.

    Yung Security Guard, di ko maintindihan. Di na pumapasok? Dahil sa susi lang? Madali lang naman isoli ito. O baka palusot na lang ng may-ari ito?

    Abangan......

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    #103
    hahaha...obvious na obvious naman yung may post na Atoy, malamang konektado din yan sa jeff na konektado daw sa starbright...e wala rin sa rason yung pa foul foul nya regarding sa pagtawag sa kanila na "carnapper". may pa foul foul pa e yung mismong ginawa nila foul na. i dont wanna go into cliches but cant help it "do not do unto others what you do not want others to do unto you" . to jeff and everyone at starbright, the least you can do to save your as**s would really be to change the car that you messed up. at para sa china trip ni andy, kasalanan mo pa rin yan kc you, your manager, or whoever in your company hired incompetent personnels, (giving the benefit of the doubt) kung totoo mang hindi mo alam ang mga pangyayari...
    Last edited by docchris; November 19th, 2007 at 04:59 AM. Reason: typo

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    #104
    pwede ba macheck yung passport nya if ever para malaman lang kung talagang nasa china sya nung nangyari yung insidente?

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    #105
    Quote Originally Posted by docchris View Post
    hahaha...obvious na obvious naman yung may post na Atoy, malamang konektado din yan sa jeff na konektado daw sa starbright...e wala rin sa rason yung pa foul foul nya regarding sa pagtawag sa kanila na "carnapper". may pa foul foul pa e yung mismong ginawa nila foul na. i dont wanna go into cliches but cant help it "do not do unto others what you do not want others to do unto you" . to jeff and everyone at starbright, the least you can do to save your as**s would really be to change the car that you messed up. at para sa china trip ni andy, kasalanan mo pa rin yan kc you, your manager, or whoever in your company hired incompetent personnels, (giving the benefit of the doubt) kung totoo mang hindi mo alam ang mga pangyayari...
    Excuse me sir, Jeff is my friend, and linking him to that poster is definitely uncalled for.

    Apex_i, I'm sorry to hear what happened. I feel your pain as I had experienced the very same thing that you are experiencing right now. Pero IMHO, it's best that you and Andy would meet somewhere in the middle since di naman total wreck. It's definitely repairable and knowing Andy, I'm sure he will make it good as new, if not better than new.

    Furthermore, compromising each other would definitely help in resolving this issue soon since it will creat a win-win situation. Your car will be good as new, Andy can regain his reputation, and best of all, both of you will have peace of mind and you guys can put all of this behind you. Besides, I'm sure you want this fiasco over soon, and prolonging this won't definitely help both you and Andy at all.

    Friendly advice lang po sir.

    Thank you.

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    #106
    Honestly bro, tingin ko hindi rin papayag yung may-ari na palitan ang kotse mo. Although kasalanan nila, personally requesting for another brand new car as replacement isn't commensurate to the crime.

    Why not give them a chance na ayusin yung trabaho nila, plus some monetary compensation? (Say, mga 10 to 15k? Or freebie services/items within that same price range). Para bawi naman yung pagod mo at yung perwisyong naidulot sa yo. Kasi kahit paano, nasira na rin yung reputation nila. And for service providers like them, a ruined reputation is a nightmare.

    Otherwise, mas lalong tatagal at walang patutunguhan ang problema mo. And I wouldn't recommend filing a case either. Too messy and costly. My 2 cents...

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    #107
    Media pa rin ang best way para mapadali to.

    Mas excited pa sila sa iyo na i-cover yan.

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    #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
    Honestly bro, tingin ko hindi rin papayag yung may-ari na palitan ang kotse mo. Although kasalanan nila, personally requesting for another brand new car as replacement isn't commensurate to the crime.

    Why not give them a chance na ayusin yung trabaho nila, plus some monetary compensation? (Say, mga 10 to 15k? Or freebie services/items within that same price range). Para bawi naman yung pagod mo at yung perwisyong naidulot sa yo. Kasi kahit paano, nasira na rin yung reputation nila. And for service providers like them, a ruined reputation is a nightmare.

    Otherwise, mas lalong tatagal at walang patutunguhan ang problema mo. And I wouldn't recommend filing a case either. Too messy and costly. My 2 cents...
    +1 on this. and as mentioned earlier, its best to meet in the middle and reach a settlement. hassle talaga kung tumagal pa 'yan.

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    #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Apex_i View Post
    [SIZE=2] UPDATE: nagkausap kami kahapon and sinisisi niya yung chief fabricator niya, hindi raw alam ni Andy yung nangyari dahil nasa China daw siya noon. Yung chief fabricator daw niya hindi maasikaso kasi na mild stroke daw, yung isang tao daw niya ang nagsukat sa kotse ko. Pero hindi pa daw nalagyan ng fiberglass nung may sumita daw tinangal daw bigla. Kaya nasira yung sasakyan. At hindi daw nito pinaalam sa kanila. Hindi na raw pumapasok ngayon yung tao na nagkamali (tulad ng guard nila na hindi na rin daw pumapasok) Ang sinisisi niya talaga sa nangyari ay yung chief fabricator niya, sa tingin ko naman di naman gagawa yung kung walang consent galing sa mas mataas sa kanila. Ang sabi ko kay Andy gusto ko talaga na palitan nila ng bagong sasakyan yung kotse ko, kaso parang ang suggestion nila ay try muna nila ayusin then if ever na hindi ako masatisfy, parang maguusap na lang ulit. Sympre hindi ako pumayag dahil remedyo lang ang gagawin nila . Kakausapin nung may-ari ng casa yung sa insurance pero sympre hindi naman ako papayag na sa insurance kunin dahil parang kami pa rin ang sasagot nun diba?!?! So hinihintay ko pa ulit yung tawag ni Andy and owner ng Casa. UPDATE ko ulit kayo.[/SIZE]
    This is just so full of B*** S***, siguro ang negosyo ni Andy Cheng ay paggawa ng alibi, hindi paggawa ng bodykits.

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    #110
    IMO - a total replacement of the vehicle might be too much though. I'd try to bargain for these instead:

    - washover for the vehicle
    - interior detail
    - replacement of lock mechanism
    - service vehicle while all of this is being done
    - compensation for lost time while the vehicle was allegedly being "modified"

    btw, negotiate for them to have this done in another shop (like the kia casa).

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    #111
    Quote Originally Posted by docchris View Post
    hahaha...obvious na obvious naman yung may post na Atoy, malamang konektado din yan sa jeff na konektado daw sa starbright...e wala rin sa rason yung pa foul foul nya regarding sa pagtawag sa kanila na "carnapper". may pa foul foul pa e yung mismong ginawa nila foul na. i dont wanna go into cliches but cant help it "do not do unto others what you do not want others to do unto you" . to jeff and everyone at starbright, the least you can do to save your as**s would really be to change the car that you messed up. at para sa china trip ni andy, kasalanan mo pa rin yan kc you, your manager, or whoever in your company hired incompetent personnels, (giving the benefit of the doubt) kung totoo mang hindi mo alam ang mga pangyayari...
    sir for a fact konektado ako sa starbright, pero yung sasabihin mo na konektado yung nag post yung post na Atoy may basis ka ba? marunong naman kaming mag isip na pag ginawa pa namin yun siguradong kami ang pagbibintangan, ginagawa na namin ang lahat para maayos tong problem na to, sana you took time to back read on my earlier post, ano ba sinabi mo? WE ARE NOT MAKING UP ANY EXCUSES, WE JUST ****ED UP, as to the reasons why it happened, a lot of people were asking for an explanation, we told them what happened, yes kasalanan ng mga tao sa shop, sinabi lang naman ni andy kung ano talaga nangyari, BUT STARBRIGHT IS TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for what happened
    malinaw naman yung post ko na kasalanan namin e

    as for replacement of the car medyo unreasonable naman siguro
    here is the list of what happened to apex i 's car
    1. nawala yung susi
    2. nagasgasan yung bumper and may natirang chemicals
    3. madumi yung oto

    yung 3 na yan, dahil yan sa kabayaan, not an accident plain and simple
    how the key got lost i have no idea
    2. kaya nagasgasan yung bumper and may natirang chemicals is dahil nasukatan ng kit, not intentional though, we have 2 entries sa show na kia, a carens and a sorento, nung iniwan ni apexi yung sportage nya kasagsagan ng preparation sa show, i think things got mixed up sa gumagawa dahil nga 3 yung kia dun, nasimulan sukatan yung sportage pero hindi tinapos when we found out na hindi yun yung para sa show
    3. madumi yung oto well normal naman yan, maputik , maalikabok at kung ano ano pa, pero dapat nilinis

    now dahil sa 3 nangyari na yun, the owner is asking us to replace the car with a brand new one, which i think is a bit too much

    1. get a new ingnition system, replace all locks and new keys, (not just order a spare key, macocompromise safety nung oto)
    2. repaint the bumper, or replace it with new from casa
    3. linisin mabuti yung car

    i think kung nagawa naman yung 3 yan, wala namang macocompromise sa oto niya hence no need to replace the car

    and of course dapat may compensation dun sa hassle and sakit ng ulo brought about this incident, mabilis naman pagusapan yan
    he can get free items such as hid, mags, full bodykits and a year's worth of detailing and waxing etc

    just to make it clear, na paulit paulit ko ng sinasabi, inaamin namin ang pagkakamali, ang problema lang is ang daming taong nakikisawsaw, sana let starbright and the other party settle this muna, kung hindi magkasundo that's the time na you start bashing or whatever you want to do, hindi naman pinapabayaan yung issue e, on going ang talks para masettle na to

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    #112
    tsk tsk tsk dapat dyan idemanda

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    #113
    Agree ako sa post ni Mazdamazda and Jeff... Medyo malaki yung hinihingi nyang kapalit sa damages na nagawa ng Starbright.

    So ok na yung
    1. Change Security system
    2. Repaint/Repair the whole vehicle
    3. Full Interior Detail
    4. Service Car
    5. Free Bodykit/Money compensation

    Siguro naman mas mura na yan kesa sa bagong kotse.

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    #114
    Quote Originally Posted by JaMiH View Post
    Agree ako sa post ni Mazdamazda and Jeff... Medyo malaki yung hinihingi nyang kapalit sa damages na nagawa ng Starbright.

    So ok na yung
    1. Change Security system
    2. Repaint/Repair the whole vehicle
    3. Full Interior Detail
    4. Service Car
    5. Free Bodykit/Money compensation

    Siguro naman mas mura na yan kesa sa bagong kotse.
    Kung maibibigay lahat yan tanggapin na para hindi na humaba ang usapan sayang din yung oras na mawawala sa kanilang dalawa.

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    #115
    Quote Originally Posted by jeff_eu8 View Post
    1. get a new ingnition system, replace all locks and new keys, (not just order a spare key, macocompromise safety nung oto)
    2. repaint the bumper, or replace it with new from casa
    3. linisin mabuti yung car
    Quote Originally Posted by jeff_eu8 View Post
    and of course dapat may compensation dun sa hassle and sakit ng ulo brought about this incident, mabilis naman pagusapan yan
    he can get free items such as hid, mags, full bodykits and a year's worth of detailing and waxing etc
    For me this is a good deal na.. Well this is my own opinion lang.

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    #116
    Whatever alibi or be it an honest fact, bottom line is STARBRIGHT is taking full responsibility. Mas mahalaga ngayon yung end result & damage control. Alam na nila kung saan sila nagkamali & for sure nag tatanda naman. Yung mga hindi pinapatawad eh yung hindi marunong mag sisi. Parang sugat yan mga dude, alam na nilang kailangan gamutin kaya wag na nating salingin, masakit lang eh. Parehas naman silang nasaktan at may mga irreversible consequences on both parties.

    Let's give the dude a chance, looks like it's the best amicable settlement he could come up with. Yun nga lang, much better na kung 3rd party na ang mag ayos ng auto.

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    #117
    Quote Originally Posted by JaMiH View Post
    Agree ako sa post ni Mazdamazda and Jeff... Medyo malaki yung hinihingi nyang kapalit sa damages na nagawa ng Starbright.

    So ok na yung
    1. Change Security system
    2. Repaint/Repair the whole vehicle
    3. Full Interior Detail
    4. Service Car
    5. Free Bodykit/Money compensation

    Siguro naman mas mura na yan kesa sa bagong kotse.

    IF EVER papayag ka sa ganito, wag mo sa kanila ipagawa. hanap ka ng mas magaling kung pwede nga eh yung kia mismo ang gagawa. dont worry, sila naman magbabayad.

    fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me.
    Last edited by fourtheboys96; November 19th, 2007 at 04:36 PM.

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    #118
    Quote Originally Posted by tanoshi_637 View Post
    Yun nga lang, much better na kung 3rd party na ang mag ayos ng auto.
    Quote Originally Posted by fourtheboys96 View Post
    IF EVER papayag ka sa ganito, wag mo sa kanila ipagawa. hanap ka ng mas magaling kung pwede nga eh yung kia mismo ang gagawa. dont worry, sila naman magbabayad.
    TAMA! ipasok na lang sa casa para yung warranty nandun pa rin.

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    #119
    Tama ang solution ni M2. Honestly, I find the "replace with new car" demand pretty funny.

    Yun lang, wag sa casa gawin, kasi may connects kay Starbright eh. Maybe some mutually agreeable third party shop/dealer.

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    #120
    oo nga lets just wish na sana magkaayusan na sila apexi at starbright sa lalong madaling panahon.. para masaya ang pasko di ba

    next time.... ayusin niyo trabaho niyo.. peace to all

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