Banning 10-year-old cars eyed as one way to spur industry growth

[Monseratto]

Sa Scout area at Laging Handa, some streets are too narrow that when homeowners park their garageless cars, two way nagiging one way na lang. Hirap dumaan pag may kasalubong.

[CoDer]

Sa kalsada ka nakapark no?

Isa kapa.

Kasya ang apat na sasakyan sa private open parking area ko tsong.

[Sweetlucious]

Isa kapa.

Kasya ang apat na sasakyan sa private open parking area ko tsong.

Yun naman pala eh. Dapat di ka ganon ka affected bro.

[CoDer]

Yun naman pala eh. Dapat di ka ganon ka affected bro.

Err... Hindi ako affected papi.

Ang problema lang nama eh yung statement na "walang karapatan magkasasakyan" unless there's a law stating it then sino ba tayo to lord over other people. FYI may kabit-bahay ako dito na walang garage, naki-usap na maki park at mag babayad daw sya monthly. Ayun nakiki-park sya ngayon pero hindi ko sya pinag babayad.

Sasabihin ko ba sa kanya na wala syang karapatang magkasasakyan dahil wala syang garage? Sino ba ako.

[testament11]

Ngayon kung i-baban nila yun mga 10 years old or older na sasakyan, paano naman yun mga enthusiasts na nag-mamaintain ng classic cars which are over 10 years na? Pero pinaka-concern ko dito, saan nila dadalhin yun mga sasakyan na 10 years and above na?

[Ry_Tower]

^^ Tama!!! +1,000

OT: Just avoid generalizing kasi. Mali naman kasi talaga yan. Be specific.

Papano yung ahente/medrep/sales executive etc. na umuupa lang pero may issued na company car? Alangan namang tanggihan niya pa yun eh tools of work yun.

[7138]

Istorbo lang yung mga sasakyan na nagpapark sa public roads.

Rumenta ng space na pwede ipagarahe yung auto.

[niky]

Unless they give me a 50-70% discount on a new Jimny, I'm never giving up my 4x4 Vitara.

What works in a 1st world country doesn't mean it'll work in a 3rd world one. The salary of the average filipino doesn't allow him to buy a brand new car. Even if they manage to get all the old cars off the road, the environmental effect of having to add even more PUV's on the road to service the 1.7 mill additional commuters will negate any benefits to the environment this proposed plan has.

Doesn't even work in the First World. Cash for Clunkers was a purely voluntary program.

[dr. d]

Err... Hindi ako affected papi.

Ang problema lang nama eh yung statement na "walang karapatan magkasasakyan" unless there's a law stating it then sino ba tayo to lord over other people. FYI may kabit-bahay ako dito na walang garage, naki-usap na maki park at mag babayad daw sya monthly. Ayun nakiki-park sya ngayon pero hindi ko sya pinag babayad.

Sasabihin ko ba sa kanya na wala syang karapatang magkasasakyan dahil wala syang garage? Sino ba ako.

yes po! let's clamor for it to be a law! that way, you won't have to tell anyone yourself...
"show me your parking area (even if it isn't yours, if you have a document stating that the owner agrees to have you park there) before you are allowed to acquire a car!".
then we follow it up with "hatakin ang lahat ng illegal street parkers!".
siguro, kung mapuna ng business establishments na wala silang customers dahil wala silang parking space, they will come up with parking space..
i am wondering, isn't parking space a requirement for new building projects?

or, do we want it singapore-style? mas masakit yon..

[jave]

IIRC, re: mandatory proof of parking space, some countries implement something like that; that you have to show that you have a parking space for your car when you're buying one; else, the government wouldn't let you buy one. Forgot whether it's Japan or Singapore or both. Other countries would simply charge you an exorbitant tax if you're parking on the road, whether it be wide enough to accommodate all sorts of traffic or not.

IMO, it's a good idea, most especially people living in narrow streets with heavy traffic: too many times traffic clogs up just because a two-lane road becomes one-lane or a three-lane road becomes one-lane because somebody's parked their car on the road. Plus, taking into account the makeshift terminals of tricycles already eating up more than one lane in some roads. Not so sure but those countries solve the parking problem of residents/visitors with no space in their homes by having enough strategically placed parking lots, plus it also encourages people to simply walk instead of just parking in front of their destination and blocking one lane of the road.

Of course, the biggest issue is that you can't really expect this sort of common sense when it comes to government numbskulls here. They could encourage people to put up more parking lot businesses by giving tax breaks and other benefits but noooooooo, they'd rather give Php 100,000 to persons that reach 100 years old.

Imbeciles.

[stickers]

minsan napapa-isip ako na baka chinese gov't. na nagpapatakbo sa atin, kasi nangongopya nalng din ng mga proposal sa ibang bansa e

They are slowly doing it.. sa mga commodities muna sila nagsisimula, guess how many Chinese or with Chinese blood billionaires we have.

ayusin na lang nila yung existing rules.. like LTO.. pag hindi na road worthy ang sasakyan.. pag puro kalawang na.. lalo na pag PUV.. wag na nila payagang i register.. sa ganon.. mapipilitang alagaan nang mga may sasakyan yung mga sasakyan nila..

tapos yung mga city government naman.. wag nila payagan may nag pa park sa mga kalsada.. i tow lahat.. pag walang parking walang karapatan magkasasakyan.. ang tapat nang bahay ay hindi parking..

+ 10000 on this!
Talagang dapat naman na bago ka magksasakyan dapat e me garage ka , saan mo ba I lalagay yan I f ever? Kakalungin ? I lalagay sa loob ng kusina?

Yan ang hirap sa atin e , bibili ng 3 cars or more tapos Walang garage?

In other countries before you are allowed to buy a car , you pay a bond to the govt. and yung parking is with pay laht , kahit public parking pa ,unless you live in a landed property or condo which is kasama na yun parking fee sa cost of ownership.

Sa to too Lang Medyo harsh pakinggan to , but admit it , na harass na rin kayo ng mga inconsiderate na parking ng parking sa mga public roads including dun mismo sa harap ng bahay mo.

Err... Hindi ako affected papi.

Ang problema lang nama eh yung statement na "walang karapatan magkasasakyan" unless there's a law stating it then sino ba tayo to lord over other people. FYI may kabit-bahay ako dito na walang garage, naki-usap na maki park at mag babayad daw sya monthly. Ayun nakiki-park sya ngayon pero hindi ko sya pinag babayad.

Sasabihin ko ba sa kanya na wala syang karapatang magkasasakyan dahil wala syang garage? Sino ba ako.

Istorbo lang yung mga sasakyan na nagpapark sa public roads.

Rumenta ng space na pwede ipagarahe yung auto.

Problema lang naman yang Parking sa kalsada kung Primary Public Road yun eh.. Yung tipong iyon lang ang daan papunta sa destinasyon mo. Pero yung mga secondary roads na 2 or 3 lanes ok lang ang Parking wag ka lang magdodouble park. Konsiderasyon lang kasi yan, wag kupal pumarada. Isa pa nasa local government na yun kung alin aling kalsada ung idedeklara nilang tow-away zone, kasi kung gagawin lahat ng kalsada bawal paradahan aba eh isipin nyo muna gano ka-crowded na ang NCR.. wala na ngang matirahan ibang tao, icoconvert mo pa ba sa parking slot yung kwarto mo tapos sa kotse mo ka matutulog?

Eh kung townhouse lang pala bahay mo o apartment wala ka na rin karapatan magkasasakyan?

Besides, mas madami pang problema ang Pinas kesa sa more than 10-year old cars at mga walang garahe? Seriously, uunahin nyo pa ba ito?

[vinj]

Brenda already submitted a law regarding this diba. Wala mangyayari dito. 90% of businesses ata are using converted 1990's isuzu forwards/elf eh. hehe

Tapos dagdag mo pa mga taxi, jeepneys na jurassic na. Malabo yan.

Brenda herself is using converted Toyota vans and LC80s for her back-up vehicles. ;) (in fairness to her, relatively maayos sila magmaneho sa kalye).

IMO, better they mandate that PUVs older than 10 years be replaced with new units first before tackling private cars which are generally better maintained. Besides, from what i see, old cars from the 90s are becoming scarcer already so there is a natural attrition as they become harder to maintain and with the influx of better, newer cars in the second hand market and affordable financing schemes for new cars, people are indeed trading up more often it seems.

[ronw123w124]

Even in first world countries hindi nangyayari ito.

Hindi lang mga owners ng lumang kotse ang tatamaan dito, I could imagine na maraming negosyo ang babagsak because of this, just think of Banawe becoming a ghost town, pati na rin yung mga talyer na magsasara dahil wala nang aayusin pa na mga auto.

[hein]

Even in first world countries hindi nangyayari ito.

Hindi lang mga owners ng lumang kotse ang tatamaan dito, I could imagine na maraming negosyo ang babagsak because of this, just think of Banawe becoming a ghost town, pati na rin yung mga talyer na magsasara dahil wala nang aayusin pa na mga auto.

It will also affect the new car industry.

We sell our old cars to help pay for the new one.

Even the car dealers know this, hence the Trade-in incentive.

[uls]

and if that phase-out plan becomes law dealers will no longer accept trade-in coz they can't sell the trade-in units

unless they buy the cars at below scrap value then sell the cars at scrap value

[_Cathy_]

Err... Hindi ako affected papi.

Ang problema lang nama eh yung statement na "walang karapatan magkasasakyan" unless there's a law stating it then sino ba tayo to lord over other people. FYI may kabit-bahay ako dito na walang garage, naki-usap na maki park at mag babayad daw sya monthly. Ayun nakiki-park sya ngayon pero hindi ko sya pinag babayad.

Sasabihin ko ba sa kanya na wala syang karapatang magkasasakyan dahil wala syang garage? Sino ba ako.

Now that's what you call pakikisama

[uls]

Hindi lang mga owners ng lumang kotse ang tatamaan dito, I could imagine na maraming negosyo ang babagsak because of this, just think of Banawe becoming a ghost town, pati na rin yung mga talyer na magsasara dahil wala nang aayusin pa na mga auto.

car owners will no longer take care of their cars so much

what's the point if a new car can be legally driven for only 10 years

[uls]

you won't care about resale value anymore

coz kahit gaano ka-well maintained ang sasakyan if it's like 7 years old who the hell will buy a car that has only 3 years of legal use left

unless it's really really cheap

[vinj]

Even in first world countries hindi nangyayari ito.

Hindi lang mga owners ng lumang kotse ang tatamaan dito, I could imagine na maraming negosyo ang babagsak because of this, just think of Banawe becoming a ghost town, pati na rin yung mga talyer na magsasara dahil wala nang aayusin pa na mga auto.

Yup, a lot of big businesses will go down indeed and expect dealers to start scrimping on discounts as more people have to buy new cars.

Obviously someone isn't thinking.

[uls]

what will you do with a 9 yr old car if it breaks down?

syempre di mo na gagastusan

pag tumirik iwan mo nalang sa kalye haha