The most overrated car in the Philippines is...

[redorange]

If I remember, there was an issue concerning the hummer h2 with the inadequate strength of the tie rods. Perhaps it would have been better if GM designed a chassis specifically for the vehicle.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those environmentalists who'd like to set ablaze H2's, and neither am I a jeep fan.

OT
GM gas already fixed that problem.

[safeorigin]

sa pinas, it's either honda or toyota ang over-rated. 'nuff said.

[-=Henderson=-]

Were the S14's that were sold locally turbo charged? I'm not really sure if in Japan they sold with turbo but Damn I would wan 1 of those. hehe. Mahal siguro ng parts and they're hard to find, don't you think?

Yup factory stock turbo. SR20DET. Parts? We're able to sort out parts naman from brand new to surplus through some shops and some parts can be interchanged with the sentra or cefiro.

Sorry OT hehe. check these sites out nalang for further info

http://clubsilvia.10.forumer.com/index.php
http://www.autoindustriya.com/talkbo....php?board=9.0

[safeorigin]

hmm... seems like the gtr is gettin' a bit overrated in the other threads.

[city_hunter]

outlander most hyped/overrated vehicle, sobrang taas specs konti naman bumibili

Performance-wise, it's better than the other compact SUVs out there (For the specs and the price). Ang mga overrated, yung mga ka-kompetensya niya (not bashing other brands, usually yun ang ginagawa ng ibang taong sumusunod sa uso).

Dapat ilagay ang Outlander sa underrated na mga sasakyan.

OT: Parang galit ka ata sa outlander sa manner ng posting mo.
(Sori mga mods, 'di ako makapagpigil eh)

[scharnhorst]

Just a thought.

If every vehicle actually did what it was designed to do with a certain degree of proficiency, then technically there's no overrated vehicle in terms of the mechanicals, that is.

It takes the subjectivity of people to overrate a car.

OT
GM gas already fixed that problem.

Thanks for this update, nice to see that GM acted. The few H2's here make fortuners and expeditions shrink.

[Chelsea_318]

Si innova and the ES lemony civic.

If you watch Auto Focus all Isuzu vehicles are overrated, that is according to its emcee.

What the?!!! Sir, I also notice this every time I watch the show!!! DAmn!! simula ata nagstart yung show ganyan na yan e. Bakit ganun si Sir Butch Gamboa?! Ha ha ha

[yuichi]

Do you have something against SiR's? Did one of "them" cut you off and now you're just venting off? I mean why hit on SiR's, I see nothing wrong with them. The problem is their owners sometimes modify the cars tastelessly... or drive the same way they modify their cars.

I mean how often do you achieve such a power to displacement ratio in a stock car, back in the day? That was 160hp/1.6L, so that's roughly 100hp/L. I think Niky summed what I think about the SiR.

+ 100

plus those were the times when Evos and STIs are hardly found here in our shores.

but more of, i think it's the owner, not the car. some of the owners are just being too cocky and loud about their SIRs that some of us begin to hate the car.

[pup2]

RE: Lynx RS versus SiR versus 4AGE 20V Corolla.

An older AE89 or AE92 Corolla with a swapped in 20V engine is much faster than an SIR... heck, a Sentra Series II or Series III (non-Exalta) with an SR20DE can probably leave it for dead.

The reason? Weight. The SIR weighs about 1170-1200 kilograms (near as I can figure), whereas the older Corolla weighs about 1000 kilos or less, and a Series III Sentra with the SR20 weighs just over 1000 kilos (this is Ghosthunter's new "toy" ). That lack of weight makes the older Corolla more agile and more accelerative... a Sentra with the SR20, on the other hand, has both more torque and less weight.... the Series II SE-R in the US, in fact, could beat the Honda Integra of its time in a drag race, thanks to the robust torque of the SR20 engine.

The Lynx RS? Our 2.0 is pure crap. Lots of torque, but a really breathless top-end... medyo bitin ang power niya, especially stock. And the RS weighs 1235 kilos (dry). Yet, with similar mods, the RS only loses out to the SiR in a straight out drag race. Running through the gears at high speed, the differences are minimal.

Right now, my car probably has much more power than a stock SiR through the powerband (though the SiR still has better peak power), but I'm still heavier. I don't know if I could beat one in a drag. I did leave a near-stock RS for dead the other day (and he texted later that he was actually trying to keep up)...

But on track? Bring 'em on. The RS has the best rear suspension of the bunch, the best steering, and is more stable than most of those older cars in the corners. It's on the straights where we lack pace. It's also a great car through the slaloms, though it's probably too heavy to be competitive in the autocross.

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In other words... the fastest compact on Philippine roads (besides the ridiculously expensive Subies and Evos) is the Focus TDCi. :hysterical:

Hey, mine is not ridiculously expensive ... just ridiculous.

[tidus1203]

Although I am a Civic owner I say its overrated, not overrated in terms of performance and reliability overrated in a sense that it has a tad of elitism with it since di pwede gawing taxi and I say "PWEH" to that idea...

Toyota Innova is another overrated vehicle especially the D4-D version. Choking and all and still sells...

Toyota Corolla another overrated car. Matibay, mura parts (not true anymore by the way) so even if Toyota just milks the car using an old engine and old tranny sige benta pa din...

[[archie]]

i have to disagree with the statement of SiR being the most overrated car. sure the nissan GTR and others dominate the international racing sine but they don't have those cars locally distributed in the Philippines.

the reason why the SiR got its reputation here is because there's nothing in its class that can beat it one-on-one stock back in 99-00. vtec technology was god those days.

as sir niky and sir mbeige mentioned, the b16a was an impressive engine back in the day.

being overrated... i dont think so.

with the most overrated car of today... i would have to say that theres no overrated cars... maybe overrated drivers.

[tidus1203]

Ang overrated lang sa SiR is the PRICE in the 2nd hand market. Come on, P400,000 for a used car that has runned 80,000km already... I know there are a lot of fanatics, but fortunately for me my brain still leads

[[archie]]

^^ well being overrated is different from being overpriced. the 2nd hand market is being dictated buy the buyers.

maybe you should take a peak at the 2nd hand market... the price of the SiR aint that much already.;)

[joseph_abri]

over rated... kia pride, honda civic 2dr, honda sir, toyata avanza, toyota yaris...

[kyle618]

Performance-wise, it's better than the other compact SUVs out there (For the specs and the price). Ang mga overrated, yung mga ka-kompetensya niya (not bashing other brands, usually yun ang ginagawa ng ibang taong sumusunod sa uso).

Dapat ilagay ang Outlander sa underrated na mga sasakyan.

OT: Parang galit ka ata sa outlander sa manner ng posting mo.
(Sori mga mods, 'di ako makapagpigil eh)

oo nga, besides who the hell hates a car that has really high specs. masmagagalit dapat pag barebones diba? the outlander is in fact an underrated car not an overrated car.

[drag_addict]

Civic SiR lang talaga :D

[[archie]]

for the people that say that the SiR is over rated...

just try to race a stock SiR with any car that came out in the same year that is also stock and in the same class... then you will see why the b16a DOHC is far superior than sentra, lancer, etc. that came out in the same era.

the vtec technology is damn good in the late 90's. even toyota copied it with the vvti.

my 2 cents.

[puroy]

over rated... kia pride, honda civic 2dr, honda sir, toyata avanza, toyota yaris...

sir, may i ask what's your proof on your claims above? :|

[Mschumacher]

Civic SiR lang talaga :D

Well don't forget the resasle value of the miata's I think this the most overrated and overpriced car in the 2nd hand market.

[Gerbo]

For me,

1. The overrated car is:

-2003 Trooper Skyroof edition -regarded as one of the better vehicles but performance fell short; maintenance was even worse.

2. The overpriced car is:

-Sportivo -for an aging crude unrefined vehicle hard to imagine it commands a million.

3. The overhyped car is:

-Fortuner - satisfaction of ownership falls behind the long waiting list it generates.