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View Poll Results: Is 100kph enough

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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Is 100kph enough as the maximum speed limit on our highways?

    My arguments for increasing our speed limit (to even 120 or 140kph):

    - most accidents do not occur due to high-speed driving, the last two SLEX accidents that I've heard occurred due to using the shoulder as the passing lane.

    - speed limit should be classified per vehicle type. heck, almost all vehicles (even jeepneys) can run 100kph but can their vehicle handle it? IMO it should be like this:

    cars from 1980 onwards: 120-140kph
    cars below 1980: 100kph
    buses, jeepneys and trucks: 80kph

    - lane segregation should also be looked closely (as this has the biggest impact on traffic condition and road safety - NOT speed limit). ALL large vehicles should be relegated to the rightmost lane (as they block the view area of most vehicles - seen this working in singapore). slowpokes should also be shooed away from the passing lane.

  2. Join Date
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    #2
    naku...bihira ka nga makakakita ng tumatakbo ng below 100kph sa expressways natin eh...maluwag masyado enforcers dyan dahil alam siguro nilang kulang...tingnan natin ngayong december kung maghihigpit nga sila tuald ng sabi fafa Ungas....

    dapat talaga itaas nila ang speedlimit dyan para legal na ta k bo ng karamihan...kulang kasi ang 100kph lalo na kapag maluwag sa n/sLEX...

  3. Join Date
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    No.

    - On the contrary, running with <100kph in left most lane (fast lane) ang dapat pa nga i-apprehend. Disgrasya at hassle ang mga sasakyan na slow sa mga fast moving cars. upto 140kph is enough for me.

    - Sa right most lane naman (shoulder lane), running with >100kph ang dapat hulihin. Kapag mabilis ka kasi dito disgrasya malamang ang abot mo.

    - Sa middle lanes naman, i think you have to maintain at least 80kph or up to 100kph.

    - lane segregation nga ang dapat nilang gawin dito.

  4. Join Date
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    #4
    In a perfect world, we should not even have speed limits, but alas, we dont live in one.

    Yes, vehicle condition allows some people to go past 100 or even 150... but you do have to consider the intangibles

    Yes, I agree that speed in itself does not an accident make..... so what does? again It's the intangibles.

    Simply put, excessive speed, although fun, reduces reaction time. Sige I'll give you young guns out there with all your libido the benefit of the doubt that you can go fast and then some, but are you prepared or even aware of the intangibles? Like sudden mechanical failure (yours and the other guy's), sudden pedestrian activity, bovine crossings etc.

    Im sure merong hihirit dito na 'problema nung ibang tao', 'tanga pedestrian', 'kaya ko mabilis' etc. But the fact of the matter is, no one ever admitted they caused and accident.... but accidents still happen!

    Speed = Distance / Time. Do the math.

    Oh, and high speed crashes are oh so spectacular.... just as long as it's not me in the Police Video hehe

  5. Join Date
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    In the philippines, laws mean nothing because none of them are implemented, whatever "good idea" one may think won't mean crap, nothing is governed anyway.

    Did you know that by law, our emission standards rival those of California? hehe, see the point?

    How in the world can you govern car-era speeds? Even if it was implemented? The officer will know by one look whether a car is pre-80 or not? What if your car falls in between 78-84 like a Benz 123?

    Doesn't make sense... What this country need isn't a speed limit, but simple common sense and courtesy in road usage.

    Roads in the US are so wide and well paved, most states have a 55mph highway speed limit or 65 at the most, that's 88 and 104 kph respectively, they drive around in V6 3.0 up...

    Doesn't make sense, you can lift the limit up to 1000000 kph and Phil traffic will be THE SAME.

  6. Join Date
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    PK,

    what am suggesting is just to increase the speed limit to around 120-140kph. 120kph being the most sane choice. not above 140kph... even I can say that 140kph is already a bit overboard in our streets (since you can pass most vehicles even at 90kph).

    btw, is "excessive speed" necessarily drivng above 100kph?

    like when am going to pampangga or bataan. travelling at 100kph is a DRAG along the NLEX. plus, am talking here about the rehabilitated NLEX in particular. smoooooooooooooooth roads... you wouldn't even notice 100kph. heck, even jeepneys can run upto 100kph... i've tried tailing some jeepneys and sure enough that they can run like hell...

  7. Join Date
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    100 kph is already pretty dangerous on OUR highways, since there are far too many idiots on them (examples: highway driving on defective taillights, bald tires, etc.; swerving drivers; drivers who don't look at their mirrors before overtaking; drivers who follow too closelyetc etc etc)

    if traffic is smart, kahit 140 yung limit safe pa rin siguro

    mazdamazda,

    nanghuhuli ba sa NLEX?

  8. Join Date
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    #8
    I can't answer that question... I both AGREE and DISAGREE with the current speed limit.

    If you go far afield, out on the smooth provincial highways or on the Skyway, even speeds up to 200km/h can be achieved with very little risk to the driver or the car.

    But I disagree with allowing ALL motor vehicles past this speed on any highway. In fact, I think that anything 2 tons and over should be limited to 120 kph or less..., while PUVs AUVs, trucks and buses should be limited to 80kph due to safety considerations.

    I may be an admitted "speed freak", but I have serious issues with people hitting 120+++ kph in vehicles not built for this. The Crosswind scares me whenever we even approach 100kph!

    And since multiple limits cannot be observed, at least until we have Autobahn smooth highways with lanes enough for all speeds of traffic, then the speed limit will continue to suck.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

  9. Join Date
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    Tignan nyo lang nangyayari sa Commonwealth ave kunwari, when we were living in Batasan back in the 80's 2 lane each lang yun, ngayon 5-6 lanes na each way, ganun parin ang flow... San kayo nakakita ng 5 lane, non-highway road sa abroad hehe... Hanggat lilipat ng kaliwa't kanan mga drivers dito, useless ang road improvement.

    Sa US 2 lanes lang highway usually unless interstate, di naman nagtratrafic because people stick to their lane UNLESS PASSING. Dito di marunong prumeno mga tao, kung may nagslowdown sa lane, first response is to swerve, not slow down...

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    The question is are our drivers capable of handling speeds in excess of 100kph. Local driver training, testing and evaluation is a joke. If you follow what's prescribed by the law people will call you anti-poor.

    Are our roads designed to handle travel in excess of 100kph? I highly doubt it and if any attempt is made it will require more $$$. $$$ isnt something the govt has in excess and people will whine about any toll rate hike to pay for improvements.

    Another question is the vehicles on the road up to par to travel at those speeds. I've seen a lot of neglected cars that have defective lights, brake badly and appear on the verge on falling apart. They're not apprehended for obvious reasons and I do not want those death traps traveling beyond 100kph. Not everyone can afford to maintain their vehicle and not everyone knows jack about car care either.

    For most of the 4 million+ vehicles registered with the LTO 100kph is more than adequate as a legal limit.

    Dapat hulihin ang under the speed limit. People who go under 60kph should be caught and have their cars impounded. They're the cause of slow vehicular travel any time of the day.

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    #11
    i think they should strictly observe fast lanes and slow lanes... speedy vehicles in slow lane and slow vehicles in fast lane can have a higher probability of accidents.

  12. Join Date
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    #12
    100 kph is more than enough imho. this is equivalent to almost 65mph which is the speed limit on the freeways of US. this is not just a matter of your car being able to handle the speed. it's a matter of putting the highways in order. and considering our roads here in the philippines, combined with uneducated drivers, 100 kph should be more than enough.

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    #13
    um, there are speed limits in the Philippines?



  14. Join Date
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    By law there is a national limit of 100kph iirc but like every other law it isnt enforced in the whole country.

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    I'd rather go to the improvement of the implementation of our laws. No matter good the idea is, nothing will happen if proper implementation is observed. Plus, of course, proper education to motorists.

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    100 kph = 62.5 mph lang. sa US 65 mph in some states, 75 mph in others. alanganin pag 65, so 75 na lang para 120 kph :D labo na hehehe

    ang dapat i-implement sa pilipinas ay hindi fixed speed limits sa highways kundi fixed speed limits sa lanes and particular vehicles.

    1.) pag 2 lanes ang road, rightmost lane minimum = 60kph, maximum = 100 kph. left lane minimum 90 kph maximum 120 kph. trucks maximum 80 kph, buses maximum 110 kph.

    2.) pag 3 lanes ang road, yung 2nd and 3rd lanes will have the same minimum and maximums as above.

    3.) trucks stay only at the rightmost or outer lanes

    4.) for single lane, 60 kph for trucks, 100 kph for all other vehicles. no tricycles allowed.

    5.) vehicles running below the said minimum speed of will be confiscated and flattend by a 50 ton road roller.

    so ordered,

    yebo8

    :D

  17. Join Date
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    #17
    if the speed limit is 100 kph, so be it. but wag naman selective implementation of traffic laws. traffic enforcers should also be trained well (not to identify traffic violation traps) & not invent outrageous terms like "reckless swerving". Then good driver education & taasan lahat ng fines. I agree that traffic safety is a combination of enforcement, education & implementation of good road tech. Road tech to mean using science to build better roads whether in road building materials, traffic signs, cameras, control centers, etc. how can a motorist traveling 100 kph in the center of a 4 or 3 lane highway see an 18 inch roadsign?

  18. Join Date
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    JohnG, sakin lang pre, 120 should be an acceptable maximum, kaya lang with the condition of the roads, unpredictability of other drivers, pedestrians suddenly crossing etc, realistically safe na yung current 100kph limit.

    Pare if we set the limit to 140 tapos may jeepney na humarurot at that speed, aba eh ako mismo ang matatakot.

    Selective speed enforcement is almost an impossibility here. Enforcement lang nga hirap na eh ;)

    Again pre, its not us who cant handle safe speed. It's them. I mean the people who take to the roads in ill maintained vehicles.

    Oh, and I totally agree with the 'proper lane speed' thing. Kaya lang nga we dont even enforce such stuff... (Fast Left, Slow Right)

  19. Join Date
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    #19
    I'd ideally go with a 120-140 speedlimit on highways like NLEX, Startoll, SLEX... Honestly, i find 100kph too slow once the road opens up.

  20. Join Date
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    I'm okay with a hundred.

    Makakarating din ako sa pupuntahan ko.

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